posted August 27, 2014 11:30 AM            

my URDA in his 5th house
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conjunct his JUNO
quinkunx his Moon-MC
opposite his Venus very widely (4°11)
opposite his CIRCE exact
sextile his Vertex-APHRODITE
sextile his KARMA wide (3)
quinkunx his PRIAPUS exact

Urda/Juno in 5th, with Venus - karmic lovers. you have several contacts like this in your synastry.

2 Yods:

his Moon-MC 28 Sagttarius
his Sun 27 Sag
my CIRCE 28 Sag

his PRIAPUS 00 Pisces
my true LILITH 28 Aquarius

my PRIAPUS 00 Leo
my URDA 00 Leo
his JUNO 27 Cancer

(opposing his CIRCE)

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his Vertex - APHRODITE 28 Virgo

his JUNo 27 Cancer
my PRIAPUS-URDA 00 Leo

my true LILITH 28 Aquarius
his PRIAPUS 00 Pisces

opposng his true LILITH 28 Leo on his NN 1 Virgo

Yods and fates, of course, very suitable.

his URDA in my 8th house

opposite my Moon exact
sextile my KARMA exact
conjunct my CUPIDO (3)
opposite my ATROPOS (3)
quinkunx my JUNO exact

my WERDA exactly on his 8th house cusp
conjunct his ULIXES exact

in a karmic house, with Moon and Karma and Juno and Atropos, and Werdandi on 8th cusp - another marker. It's not the first time you two met.

his WERDA in my 10th house
opposite my Chiron
square my Vertex-EROS-Saturn
sextile my CUPIDO
conjunct my DNA-SAPPHO-MUSA
trine my Moon-ATROPOS-KALLISTO-DIONYSOS. lol

my SKULD in his 7th
conjunct his ADONIS-UNION
sextile his Sun-Moon
square his Venus
square his JUNO
trine his PSYCHE
quinkunx his ASC
sextile his true LILITH

pretty obvious this one, very strong placement

his SKULD in my 4th
conjunct my Chiron
sextile my KARMA
square my Saturn
trine my CUPIDO
opposite my DNA-MUSA-SAPPHO
sextile my Moon-ATROPOS

composite
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URDA 8 Leo in 7th
conjunct KARMA
trine natural and mean LILITH
sextile Jupiter in 5th

WERDA 1 Scorpio in 9th
conjunct UNION
opposite Chiron-ATROPOS
square ASC exact
trine VESTA
quindecile PRIAPUS-DIONYSOS-EROS-IC

SKULD 21 Cap in 12th
conjunct Moon
square Mars-NN-CUPIDO-AMOR
quinkunx Saturn exact
sextile CERES
trine JUNO-ALMA exact
sextile LUST-VALENTINE
quindecile URDA

I'd say a fated synastry, with all these aspects. What to do, Ceri?

Many soulmate aspects, of people traveling together in time

posted August 27, 2014 11:31 AM            

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Apparently, I'm hard-headed on this subject, because my Atropos is in the 8th house conjunct Pluto.

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posted August 27, 2014 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Cool research! In synastry we have HP conjunct Moon DW and even mine is exactly on his Persephone.

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Come to me baby

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I just noticed...my Phoinix conjunct my PoMarriage and square my DSC ruler

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posted August 27, 2014 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Delilah, have you experienced many situations when you had to start all over again, inner or outer, or to give up things/people, to cut ties, recollect yourself, restart on certain levels?

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Sure! Isn't that what life is all about? Doesn't everyone do that?

posted August 27, 2014 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Sure! Isn't that what life is all about? Doesn't everyone do that? ;_)

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posted August 27, 2014 11:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

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posted August 27, 2014 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
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Squares mean events, don't they?

posted August 27, 2014 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It might be possible. But I am not sure under what circumstanced. Certainly an ATropos-transit will not be enough. Certain angles will probably have to be strongly affected, too. And even then, well often it is easier to see the death of loved ones in a chart.

(when my grandmother died last year it was when my pr Moon was EXACT on my pr DESC with Transiting Pluto being exactly opposite, and this repeating in the tertiary progressions as well.

my pr Moon/ pr DESC was aligned perfectly with her own natal conjunction of Sun-Mars-Pluto which received an opposition from Transit Pluto and at the time of passing a quare from Transit Moon with Transit ASC being conjunct my pr Moon-DESC and her natal Sun-Mars-Pluto as well - it was an accumulation of all of that.

But of course it could have meant something entirely different as well.

This gives me goosepumps though, she died on the day Tr ATROPOS was conjunct Tr Sun exact in Cancer, and this happening on my Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp.

it had already passed her natral stellium by 10 degrees though

However I put in Atropos in transits for last saturday, because him coming up to me had such an "unavoidable" feel to it.

Funny enough Tr Atropos was EXACT on my MC!
(and his KARMA and opp. his Osiris)

which means not only was it transiting compospite APHRODITE but also composite Eros/Psyche-mp. lol

Tr PHOINIX was on 16 Libra, opposing Tr Uranus exact.

with our composite Pluto on 15 LIbra and composite Venus on 16 and composite Proserpina and Circe both on 14 Cap.

No chance I suppose!

oh and our pr composite Atropos is applying to quindecile with our composite Valentine-Lust-conjunction and also quindecile our composite NN-Amor-Cupido-conjunction which has just experienced the exact conjunction of transiting NN

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My father had Atropos conjunct Vertex (3) in the 8th. He had a sudden, unexpected death (silent pulmonary emphysema, he actually suffered apnea in his sleep and was found in the morning). The conjunction is in Gemini, the sign of the lungs.

Sorry for the gloomy post.

Yes, I think Atropos is active in relation to physical death.

That day, tMars conjunct tAtropos in Leo opposed his Sun by 5 degree.

I've seen Atropos in several sudden death charts. I think Robin Williams also had a prominent Atropos that day, if I remember correctly.

posted August 27, 2014 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Squares mean events, don't they?

You have good Norns

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Hura!!!

It's meditation time, I'll come back later.

A last question before I go. Leeloo, do you have Proserpina h57 quincunx Hades in your Composite?

posted August 27, 2014 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Hura!!!

It's meditation time, I'll come back later.

A last question before I go. Leeloo, do you have Proserpina h57 quincunx Hades in your Composite?

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No, Hades conjunct DSC (1), Proserpine conjunct Vesta (0). I'm talking about the hypothetical ones. Why? What does it mean? I'm not very familiar with these hypothetical planets.

posted August 27, 2014 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
My Atropos conjuncts my mars in gemini 11h. My Mars is very well-aspected and hence Atropos as well.

If anyone wants to hear my opinion , pls. lead me to the post please - i feel lost facing those endless synastries and natals in this thread

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How close is your Mars conjunction?

yes, me, me, tell me

here you go:

"He has Amor conjunct Urda (1) in his natal...a karmic love...this is totally cute

Synastry:

my Urda conjunct his Skuld on my DSC, all three...0!

my Mercury/Werdandi makes a lot of aspects to his chart (trine Mars and Venus, conjunct Pluto, Vesta etc.). It falls in his 1st house.

my Sun/Skuld opp his Sun/Karma (1)

his Amor/Urda opp my Vesta, square Moon/Lilith/his Juno opp

my Venus conjunct his Werdandi (3)"

posted August 27, 2014 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No, Hades conjunct DSC (1), Proserpine conjunct Vesta (0). I'm talking about the hypothetical ones. Why? What does it mean? I'm not very familiar with these hypothetical planets.

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Thanks, another case of prominent Hades. I'm just collecting data, it seems Hades quincunx Proserpina in Composite is a marker of Pluto in Scorpio generation. Actually I'm not sure about this, still checking.

posted August 27, 2014 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Thanks, another case of prominent Hades. I'm just collecting data, it seems Hades quincunx Proserpina in Composite is a marker of Pluto in Scorpio generation. Actually I'm not sure about this, still checking.

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Well, we both have Pluto in Libra When you have an idea on what it could mean, let me know Sweet meditation!

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posted August 27, 2014 12:35 PM            

"He has Amor conjunct Urda (1) in his natal...a karmic love...this is totally cute
-> yes, he decided in his most recent past life that he is going to meet you again

Synastry:

my Urda conjunct his Skuld on my DSC, all three...0!
-> WOW: "As promised, here I come, babe. Let's head to the future"

my Mercury/Werdandi makes a lot of aspects to his chart (trine Mars and Venus, conjunct Pluto, Vesta etc.). It falls in his 1st house.
-> okay, it's your part to talk to him a lot In the light of the many aspects: you are supposed to be/become his best friend

my Sun/Skuld opp his Sun/Karma (1)
=> again, "we are meant to be together"

his Amor/Urda opp my Vesta, square Moon/Lilith/his Juno opp
=> you arouse strong feelings in each other. Like, when you see each other (or maybe it's just him) he would say something like "Ah, there's my seductress from a past life." There's a tension between passion, lust and deep feelings.

posted August 27, 2014 12:47 PM            

Tell me, what does your Mars rule, apart from your Moon...the 9th?

posted August 27, 2014 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks, Enneline, your interpretation is very exact...I mean I like it, it must be

Tell me, what does your Mars rule, apart from your Moon...the 9th?

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But I was serious not flattering. There's only 1 potential for conflictes: Vesta and Juno opp. Maybe he thinks seductress & being a wife simultaneously can't work but hey there's worse than being perceived as a seductress

posted August 27, 2014 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
But I was serious not flattering. There's only 1 potential for conflictes: Vesta and Juno opp. Maybe he thinks seductress & being a wife simultaneously can't work but hey there's worse than being perceived as a seductress

Partly 9 & 10th house and my mc.

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Your MC is in Aries?

Actually, it's a Fixed Cross made of

his Juno/my Lilith Aqua
my Moon in Leo
my vesta in Scorpio
his Amor/Urda in Taurus

So you think oppositions mean two conflictual, contradictory energies? Yuo know I don't see them like this, but I'm open to this argument

For example, our exact opposition of
my Moon 14 Leo
my Lilith 14 Aqua
his Juno 14 Aqua

How would you interpret that? (of course it's part of a Cross, but let's say you look only at this opposition)

posted August 27, 2014 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My father had Atropos conjunct Vertex (3) in the 8th. He had a sudden, unexpected death (silent pulmonary emphysema, he actually suffered apnea in his sleep and was found in the morning). The conjunction is in Gemini, the sign of the lungs.

Sorry for the gloomy post.

Yes, I think Atropos is active in relation to physical death.

That day, tMars conjunct tAtropos in Leo opposed his Sun by 5 degree.

I've seen Atropos in several sudden death charts. I think Robin Williams also had a prominent Atropos that day, if I remember correctly.

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Yes, trAtropos is significant in the death charts I've looked at; not necessarily sudden either. Although I haven't done enough to see if there is a particular pattern; just that it closely aspects something.

posted August 27, 2014 01:24 PM            

Actually, it's a Fixed Cross made of

his Juno/my Lilith Aqua
my Moon in Leo
my vesta in Scorpio
his Amor/Urda in Taurus
-> ah okay. This new point could lead to the opposite interpretation: he considers you as wife material

So you think oppositions mean two conflictual, contradictory energies? Yuo know I don't see them like this, but I'm open to this argument
-> basically yes, but not in general. An opposition of 2 planets/asteroids could lead to complementation. And you I would ask myself: how do the individuals react to strong aspects? Also, an opposition could also be a "you can't escape this"-aspect and many people like that

For example, our exact opposition of
my Moon 14 Leo
my Lilith 14 Aqua
his Juno 14 Aqua

How would you interpret that? (of course it's part of a Cross, but let's say you look only at this opposition)

-> Maybe you don't consider him as being wife material? Seriously: his vibes concering "marriage & sex" are strongly attractive for you

posted August 27, 2014 01:31 PM            

I agree with this:

" An opposition of 2 planets/asteroids could lead to complementation. And you I would ask myself: how do the individuals react to strong aspects? Also, an opposition could also be a "you can't escape this"-aspect and many people like that"

To me, an opposition indicates a strong attraction between those two planets, even fascination, with the potential for great complementarity, if other aspects related to the opposition and the natals point to that. And the rest of the synastry, of course.

For example, a Venus opposite Uranus in synastry is strong fascination, but we can see if the fascination is mutual/if the aspect is connective or separative depending on the position of Venus and Uranus in the natal chart, what they are as rulers; how stable is the Uranian energy in those charts - Uranian people react differently to this opposition. For some people, Uranus is a binding planet (for Uranians), for others, it's a separative aspect.

posted August 27, 2014 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
...or perhaps I'm not wife material in general

I agree with this:

" An opposition of 2 planets/asteroids could lead to complementation. And you I would ask myself: how do the individuals react to strong aspects? Also, an opposition could also be a "you can't escape this"-aspect and many people like that"

To me, an opposition indicates a strong attraction between those two planets, even fascination, with the potential for great complementarity, if other aspects related to the opposition and the natals point to that. And the rest of the synastry, of course.

For example, a Venus opposite Uranus in synastry is strong fascination, but we can see if the fascination is mutual/if the aspect is connective or separative depending on the position of Venus and Uranus in the natal chart, what they are as rulers; how stable is the Uranian energy in those charts - Uranian people react differently to this opposition. For some people, Uranus is a binding planet (for Uranians), for others, it's a separative aspect.

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it doesn't matter; if he is good enough for you that matters only

posted August 27, 2014 01:53 PM            

Given the fact that I have inevitability written all over my chart I thought Urda and Co might feature significantly. This is what I got:

In view of:
Karma conj Sun
Moira conj Asc
NN con Vertex
Destinn conj DNA

I have -
Urda conj Asc (4 degrees) and Europa exact
Werdandi forms a GT with Amor and Juno
Skuld @ 13.13 Sag conj Isis, Osiris, Apollo, Sekhmet - grouped at the GA

Can't say this was too significant but then, this -

Synastry:
My Urda conj his Sun exact, square his NN and Urda
Werdandi/Juno DW
His Werdandi conj my Pluto
My Skuld trines his Skuld (0) forming a mystic rectangle with his Cupido, my DC, his IC/ Chiron

Composite:
Virgo Asc -22.43
conj Atropos - 22.43
Prosperina - 23.23
Urda and Skuld in 1st house stellium
Skuld trine Werdandi exact.

Now, looking for some help ....

posted August 27, 2014 03:22 PM            

"I'd say a fated synastry, with all these aspects. What to do, Ceri?

Many soulmate aspects, of people traveling together in time"#

Did I even mention my Draco chart?

his Dr Saturn 25 Aries
his Dr Vertex 27 Aries
his Dr DESC 24 Aries
his Dr APHRODITE 27 Aries

my Dr Venus 25 aries

his tropical Adonis 24 Libra
my tropical Adonis 27 Libra
his tropical Union 29 Libra
my tropical Union 29 Libra

Venus-Adonis, Aphrodite-Adonis on the Aries-Libra-axis, coming under the guise of Saturn (and Vertex)

the other Saturnian one

my Dr DESC 26 Virgo
my Dr Mars 25 Pisces
my Dr Neptune 29 Pisces
my Dr Lust 28 Pisces

his Dr BML 26 Pisces

his tropical Saturn 26 Virgo
his tr Vertex-Aphrodite 28 Virgo

so his Dr Saturn is on my Dr Venus
his tropical Saturn on my Dr DESC

(In case you wonder about MY karma planets, well I provide the Pluto to his saturn. LOL
targetting his Venus and Mars especially; with my Dr Pluto conjunct his tropical Venus and my tropical Pluto opposing his Draco Mars-Jupiter-Amor, and conj. his Dr Eros. lol)