posted September 23, 2014 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I like the idea of relocating, too, but I agree with you to not fall prey to artifical simplification.
I like my calculations consistent

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posted September 23, 2014 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So you're saying the Quotidian progressions in Solar Fire (which I never used) are actually the most realistic ones? What is the difference in orb for the ASC?

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Well you know the secondary progressions uses one day (in the ephemeris) for a year of life.
The Moon moves about 13 degrees every day, so she also moves about 13 degrees during the course of one year in your life.

Now you know what happens with the angles during one day, they move right around the zodica once. 360°. lol

so they are VERY changeable. Which is possibly the reason the medieval astrolgoers thought of a bit of a slower movement and came up with something that made the move with the speed of the sun (approximately).

Anyway today for example my Quotidian ASC is on 5 Scorpio, tomorrow it will be on 5 Scorpio still, and next month on 27 Scorpio.

Last month during the concert it was at 13 Libra. So it seems it moves a little less than 30 degrees per month, or about one degree a day, a bit less than that.

posted September 24, 2014 12:50 PM            

Ceri, do you want me to look at the reference place with the list you provided, or at the midpoint and you adjust the list?

posted September 24, 2014 01:29 PM            

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What I noticed was the quadrangular structure of Mars, Jupiter/Uranus, Venus and SN.

The Jupiter/VEnus and Uranus/Venus mp is on 27 Capricorn, the Mars/SN on 29 Cancer. It is not exact, but still in orb, an on one end of this symmetry-axis is Karma on the last degree of Cancer (do I really need to mention that my progressed Moon currently is on 27°51 Cancer and preparing for the ingress into Leo, and of course it will transit over that muli composite Karma as well. Oh and my Priapus is on 00 Leo, and our normal composite DESC is on 01 Leo).

In fact this multi composite seems to hit some very significant spots of our basic composite. I know that our composite is already part of the multi-composite, so not sure I can look at this this way.
On the other hand our natals are also part of the multic omposites and it feels valid to look at those trigger points. So who knows, maybe the merging points with the basic composite are important, too.

Oh and of course did anyone else notice where Tr Uranus is transiting now (by square), and where Tr Pluto is heading to? lol

EDIT:
it did not fit in there, but SAPPHO is on 13°07 Aquarius, on PHOLUS and AVX.

It got my attention cause his own natal SAPPHO is on 13°30 Aquarius,

and our helio composite Venus (basic, notmulti) is on 13°27 Aquarius

posted September 25, 2014 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
In our synastry the far most important player is Uranus, especially his Uranus (7,8HR) which activates the whole configuration - diamond (or distorted pentagram), the following positions of this diamond in our synastry:

His Uranus Saggitarius 13'32
My Mars Gemini 14'07
His Venus Pisces 14'41
My Venus Libra 14'24
My Mercury Libra 12'49
My ASC Virgo 12'49
My Moon Leo 13'21

So with the multicomposite now we have triggered all this aforementioned configuration:

Moon conjuncts his Uranus (exact) - i think this triggered it all, activated all exact Uranus aspects we have!

Interestingly as Moon conjuncts HIS Uranus, Sun, accordingly, conjuncts MINE. Not exact, though, but still, i think 1 degree IS valid (Mercury and Sun, too). My Uranus in our synastry squares his Sun by 5 minutes. So Sun&Moon triggers both of our Uranus, thus fortifying the fact that it is highly Uranus-full synastry. (FM Sun on its own conjuncts our composite Uranus exact!)

ASC Leo 14'59 = my Moon Leo 13'21
IC Libra 21'37 = my Sun Libra 19'26
Saturn Saggitarius 4'19 = my IC Saggitarius 6
Uranus Capricorn 28'02 = his Moon Capricorn 29'40
Mars Aquarius 21 = my Vertex Aquarius 21
MC Aries 21'37 = his Mercury Aries 22
Pluto Scorpio 28 = his Mars Scorpio 27

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So your FM certifies this is going to be a highly Uranian synastry...that's cohesive.

From the connections I see:

ASC Leo 14'59 = my Moon Leo 13'21
IC Libra 21'37 = my Sun Libra 19'26
Saturn Saggitarius 4'19 = my IC Saggitarius 6

you are much more impacted on a deep level. Moon and IC are somehow the same spot, Moon rules IC, plus your Moon and IC are both in Fire signs. Straight to the heart for you, plus issues related to your Moon: emotional expression, femininity etc.

Uranus Capricorn 28'02 = his Moon Capricorn 29'40
he was impacted too, but on a different level. What does Uranus rule for him? The emotional impact was electrifying and maybe even destabilizing a bit.

Mars Aquarius 21 = my Vertex Aquarius 21 - meeting an important man
MC Aries 21'37 = his Mercury Aries 22 with this aspect, his Merc may influence the outcome of the meeting a lot.

Strangely, your chart suggests an almost certain physical relationship, at least in some stage of the relationship.
Pluto Scorpio 28 = his Mars Scorpio 27

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posted September 25, 2014 01:16 PM            

multicomposite to my natal
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Sun conjunct Moon (1)
Sun conjunct Atropos (1)
Sun opposite Cupido (1)

Moon opposite Saturn (1)
Moon conjunct Klotho (1)

DESC conjunct Saturn (2)
SC conjunct Klotho (3)

MC conjunct Uranus (2)

Avx conjunct Moon (2)

Saturn, chartruler, opposite mean Lilith eact
Saturn oppoiste Psyche (1)

Karma conjunct Priapus exact

Union opposite Pholus exact
Union opposite Ceres (2)

NN conjunct Amor (1)

Mercury opposite Chiron (1)

Venus conjunct BML 1)

Jupiter conjunct Sun (1)
Jupiter conjunct Mercury exact

Uranus conjunct Sun exact
Uranus conjunct Mercury exact

Neptune conjunct Venus (2)

Valentine conjunct Avx exact
Valentine opposite Eros exact
Valentine conjunct/Sun/Moon-mp exact

Psyche conj. Avx exact
Psyche opposite Eros exact
Psyche conjunct Sun/Moon-mp exact

Pallas conjunct Jupiter exact
Pallas conjunct Ceres (1)

Vesta conjunct Juno exact

Juno conjunct IC (1) and Alma (3)

Chiron conjunct IC (1) and Alma (0) and opposite Pluto ()

Ceres conjunct Chiron (2)

Alma conjunct Chiron (3)

PRiapus conjunct Lachesis (2)
Priapus conjunct Odysseus exact
Priapus opposite PEnelope exact

Eros conjunct Lachesis exact
Eros conjunct Odysseus (3) and Ulysses (0)
Eros opposite Penelope (2) and Anteros (2)

Amor opposite Psyche (2)
Amor opposite BML (1)

Cupido opposite JUno (2)

Lust conjunct Valentine (3)
Lust oppopsite Lachesis and Ulysses exact
Lust conjunct Penelope (3)

Klotho conjunct Vesta exact

Lachesis conjunct Odysseus exact
Lachesis opposite Penelope exact
(interestingly the multi-comp has a triple conjunction of Priapus-Eros-Lachesis, opposite Lust)

posted September 25, 2014 01:27 PM            

DESC conjunct Atropos (3)

IC conjunct Vesta exact

Sun conjunct Klotho wiiiide (4)

Saturn opposite pallas and Psyche exact
Saturn conjunct BML (3)

Karma conjunct Juno (2)

Mercury cojunct Pluto (2)
Mercury opposite Lachesis exact

Venus conjunct SN (1)
Venus conjunct Priapus exact
Venus opposite BML (1)

Mars conjunct DESC (1)
Mars conjunct Saturn (1)
Mars conjunct Vertex and Aphrodite exact

Jupiter conjunct Sun (2)
Jupiter conjunct Moon (4)
Jupiter conjunct MC (4)
Jupiter conjunct Neptune, r1 (4)
Jupiter conjunct Cupido (2)

Uranus conjunct Sun (1)
Uranus conjunct Moon (3)
Uranus conjunct MC (3)
Uranus conjunct Sun/Moon-mp (2)

Neptune conjunct Atropos (2)

Pluto opposite Chiron exact
Pluto widely conjunct Lust (just under 4)

Pallas opposite Mars exact
Pallas opposite Jupiter (1)
Pallas opposite Amor (2)

Vesta opposite Lilith (/1)

Juno conjunct Ceres (3)
Juno opposite Karma exact

Chiron conjunct Ceres exact
Chiron opposite Karma ()

Ceres opposite pluto (1)

Alma opposite pluto (2)

Priapus opposite Uranus (1)
Priapus opposite Valentine (1)
Priapus opposite Odysseus (2)

Eros opposite Uranus exact

Amor conjunct BML (1)
Amor opposite psyche (1)
Amor opposite pallas (2)

Union conjunct mars (3)
Union conjunct Jupiter (2)
Union conjunct Amor (1)
Union opposite Eros exact

Cupido conjunct Mars (3)

Lust conjunct Uranus (1)

Klotho conjunct Penelope (1)
Klotho conjunct Moon (3)
Klotho conjunct MC (3)

Lachesis opposite Odysseus (2)
Lachesis opposite Valentine (2)
Lachesis opposite Uranus (2)

posted September 25, 2014 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
IJ, I have seen your chart and I will get to it I'm a little behind with the thread. I suppose the superpositions with your natals are the list below the photo?

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posted September 26, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Delilah, your mmulti-comp is heavy, I won't deny it. It's like a Saturn return of some sorts. I know it's not exact, but all I can do is look at this chart. The Yod is about the relationship itself, paricularly the 5th/11h axis of the relationship: Neptune sextile Moon with Moon on 5th cusp,in Aqua, 5th in Aqua and Moon ruling 11th. The release (primary result) is a movement towards IC/SN: either a retreat, or returning home and Chiron is involved. I'll tell you more about what I see after I look at the other charts before you, I know you need answers, especially now Anyway, this is the core of the chart: it's pretty heavy. But Venus/Vesta opp Mars/Ceres in the house of the Yod release is a beautiful opp and it receives a supportive helping hand from Jupiter/Neptune mdp.

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posted September 28, 2014 07:49 AM            

DSC ruler on ASC - a strong pull towards creating this partnership and putting it in the service of individual growth/transformation a a result of this partnership - in fact, the Moon/ASC is squares by intercepted 8th ruler, suggesting 8th house (transformation) and the wheel of time (interception) are triggering/blocking the relationship. The merging itself, if it takes place, will be strongly connected to any Mercury issues/transits/progressions, IMO.
Chart ruler Saturn sitting right on 8th cusp, opp Sun/IC ruler mdp - more time/8th Saturn connects the Sun (vertex rul) with IC -this is where and if the relationship happens -

MC ruler Pluto in the 10th also connects here, that's another sign for a possible connection, plus it's going to be official or at all.

But a relationship is entirely possible with so many strong connections between angle rulers.

I'd say because Jupiter NN ruler conj Uranus (Sun disp) in the 12th and NN ruler also rules 12th and it's hidden there and it's Jupiter and it's Uranus and because of the wedge to the definitory opp, an element of unexpected and surprise is strongly related to the outcome of this meeting, to the creation of a connection

Not to mention that Neptune (another intercepted ruler, and we have a 2nd/8th axis theme here) is also hiding in the 12th, but sextile chart ruler

Looking at your superposition to see what id does for you:

Sun conjunct Moon (1)
Sun conjunct Atropos (1)
Sun opposite Cupido (1)
Cupido strikes his arrow for sure lol, and the emotional impact s obvious, even for an Aqua Moon lol. Atropos here to me means it has a radical impact on yourself.

Moon opposite Saturn (1)
Moon conjunct Klotho (1)
DESC conjunct Saturn (2)
SC conjunct Klotho (3)

DSC ruler opp your Saturn, DSC on Saturn - there is a blockage here or the same element of time - interestingly, Saturn is also your 2nd ruler, right?? There wasn't sudden action from your side, but pondering, maybe waiting, your Saturn was activated by the perspective of such a relationship

MC conjunct Uranus (2)
for the best outcome of the meeting, you need to activate your Uranus

Avx conjunct Moon (2)
fateful, important meeting

Saturn, chartruler, opposite mean Lilith eact
Saturn oppoiste Psyche (1)

Lilith/Psyche - a strong soul-searching, passion, maybe obsession, desire for purity etc were triggered in you

Karma conjunct Priapus exact
Union opposite Pholus exact
Union opposite Ceres (2)
NN conjunct Amor (1)

These are all fated markers pointing to a possible deep union.

Mercury opposite Chiron (1)
all right, so the Mercury position in the chart (described above) is a possible source of pain for you. Also, awakening and self-healing.

Venus conjunct BML 1)
more lilith theme here for you; issues of independence, femininty, passion, truth etc were triggered for you

Jupiter conjunct Sun (1)
Jupiter conjunct Mercury exact
Uranus conjunct Sun exact
Uranus conjunct Mercury exact
the impact of expansive outers on your sensitive spot (relationship related for you, your Sun/Merc)

Neptune conjunct Venus (2)
all right, so you actualy like that Neptune, that mystery surrounding the meeting lol also, romance and a dream

Valentine conjunct Avx exact
Valentine opposite Eros exact
Valentine conjunct/Sun/Moon-mp exact

yeah, OK, you kinda fell in love or at least aspiring for romance as a result for this meeting

Psyche conj. Avx exact
Psyche opposite Eros exact
Psyche conjunct Sun/Moon-mp exact
lovely soulmate stuff

Pallas conjunct Jupiter exact
Pallas conjunct Ceres (1)

Vesta conjunct Juno exact
if the meeting leads to a partnership, it would be an "official" one (additional clue to MC ruler in 10th)

Juno conjunct IC (1) and Alma (3)
this shows you would love this partnership very much

Chiron conjunct IC (1) and Alma (0) and opposite Pluto ()
some pain and transformation is indicated here as a result of this meeting

Ceres conjunct Chiron (2)
Alma conjunct Chiron (3)
then comes the healing lol

PRiapus conjunct Lachesis (2)
Priapus conjunct Odysseus exact
Priapus opposite PEnelope exact
time will tell lol
if it happens, again, it would be the real deal

Eros conjunct Lachesis exact
Eros conjunct Odysseus (3) and Ulysses (0)
Eros opposite Penelope (2) and Anteros (2)
the same

Amor opposite Psyche (2)
another soulmate pairing

Amor opposite BML (1)
more Lilith for you (you do have Moon conj Lilith right??)

Cupido opposite JUno (2)

Lust conjunct Valentine (3)
Lust oppopsite Lachesis and Ulysses exact
Lust conjunct Penelope (3)
Klotho conjunct Vesta exact
Lachesis conjunct Odysseus exact
Lachesis opposite Penelope exact
(interestingly the multi-comp has a triple conjunction of Priapus-Eros-Lachesis, opposite Lust)
wow yeah I love all these markers pointing to the real deal

Atropos conjunct Chiron (3)
hm...apart from a definite turning point for you, it could also mean not going further with this would be painful for you

Overall, very nice aspects for triggering romance and longing for romance and a nice relationship in someone!

Next is Mr Sag and his impact.

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posted September 29, 2014 08:38 AM            

IC conjunct Vesta exact
commitment and soul fire

DESC conjunct Atropos (3)
Sun conjunct Klotho wiiiide (4)
Karma conjunct Juno (2)
fate

Saturn opposite pallas and Psyche exact
Saturn conjunct BML (3)
hm I'm not sure if this encourages his psychic gifts and his Lilith to express themselves

Mercury cojunct Pluto (2)
Mercury opposite Lachesis exact
more fate with Merc ruling 8th

Venus conjunct SN (1)
Venus conjunct Priapus exact
Venus opposite BML (1)
strong desire for the woman, a sense of familiarity

Mars conjunct DESC (1)
Mars conjunct Saturn (1)
Mars conjunct Vertex and Aphrodite exact
hm..interesting...this config should mean the meeting leads to some events, some actions, not necessarily immediately, because of Saturn, but still: it's like an "action" trigger from the movies lol

Jupiter conjunct Sun (2)
Jupiter conjunct Moon (4)
Jupiter conjunct MC (4)
Jupiter conjunct Neptune, r1 (4)
Jupiter conjunct Cupido (2)
Uranus conjunct Sun (1)
Uranus conjunct Moon (3)
Uranus conjunct MC (3)
Uranus conjunct Sun/Moon-mp (2)

wow these are pretty strong...unexpected attraction and general excitement/awakening (Jupiter 12th)

Neptune conjunct Atropos (2)

Pluto opposite Chiron exact
Pluto widely conjunct Lust (just under 4)
that's an interesting one...MC ruler opp his Chiron, conj Lust...I'm not sure what it means though

Pallas opposite Mars exact
Pallas opposite Jupiter (1)
Pallas opposite Amor (2)
Vesta opposite Lilith (/1)
I think these show attraction

Juno conjunct Ceres (3)
Juno opposite Karma exact
nice marital marker

Chiron conjunct Ceres exact
Chiron opposite Karma ()

Ceres opposite pluto (1)
Alma opposite pluto (2)
nice Pluto/Persephone theme

Priapus opposite Uranus (1)
Priapus opposite Valentine (1)
Priapus opposite Odysseus (2)
Eros opposite Uranus exact
I'm not sure how strong asteroids work on FMs but he should have been attracted, and there's a blend of familiarity and surprise. I think he acknowledged you as being from his soul group. Do you have strong IC in synasry/draco?

Amor conjunct BML (1)
Amor opposite psyche (1)
Amor opposite pallas (2)
Union conjunct mars (3)
Union conjunct Jupiter (2)
Union conjunct Amor (1)
Union opposite Eros exact
all these markers with Union and Amor come into play later and they show a relationship is possible and it would be one of love

Cupido conjunct Mars (3)
hehehe striking arrow into his Mars

Lust conjunct Uranus (1)

Klotho conjunct Penelope (1)
Klotho conjunct Moon (3)
Klotho conjunct MC (3)
a bit of a mother theme here

Lachesis opposite Odysseus (2)
Lachesis opposite Valentine (2)
Lachesis opposite Uranus (2)

Atropos opposite Pluto (2)
this one is a bit harsh, potentially

posted September 29, 2014 09:58 AM            

union/pluto got my attention at first.
and we have some chiron activity as always.

posted September 29, 2014 11:29 AM            

I am not sure what it is, but whenever he crosses that invisible line, my insides just respond to him, and I figured that I must be attracted to him after all. LOL

Funny thing is the times it happened, he looked almost as dazed and startled and surprised as I felt inside.
Just lately there has been an added look of thoughtfulness on his face when looking at me, which makes me a little nervous to be honest.
Itīs like something has been bubbling to the surface, which has probably always been there, but neither of us really wanted to pull it out of the dark corner and look at it. Or said differently we very quickly and hastily stuffed it back into that dusty dark corner of our subconscousness, so we can keep on surfing the surface.

At least I did. lol
Well for him, I always thought despite our little encounters, the moment I leave the room, I was out of his mind as well. Very probably this is true, but still it seems like the recognition is ther, maybe it there just now. or it has been there all along and it is just now that he has become vocal about it. lol

Of course I donīt know how much of an attraction he feels to me. But what I know is that, at least for the last 6 months, I got his attention whenever and whereever I showed up, despite my attempts to melt with the dark. Did not quite work so well.

On the other hand if it is not onesided and the attraction is there from his side, too, this is simply a desaster waiting to happen I suppose.

One of the things I sense about it (and I can be totally delusional about that) is that if we really opened that box of Pandora (actually my Aphrodite is conjunct his Pandora and composite Pandora conjuncts his Aphrodite and Vertex exact and DESC by 2 degrees, but I suppose that is beside the point ),

well as of now I simply doubt that we could really have a nice carefree noncommitted lighthearted connection to each other. Might even look like it on the surface, but let`s not talk about how it feels under the surface. At least to me, and it is just a tiny weak little whiff of it.

BTW interestingly in our multicomposite Pandora is exactly conjunct my natal Aphrodite and his natal Pandora by 2 degrees. lol

and right now talking about it Tr Pandora is conjunct our Chiron-Atropos-conjunction in composite. lol

I also wondered, well even though we met on that date, we did again meet and talk last november, which apparently put an end to most of the "ignoring-the-elephant-in-the-room" (not sure if he or me was the elephant. lol) At least it was after that, that he suddenly started to, I donīt know, single me out.