posted February 15, 2015 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Septembergirl:
This one worries me....

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No need to. Jupiter / Uranus is the "Thank God" midpoint. That sigh of relief, when a tension suddenly is resolved. Though the triggering Neptu
ne might make things very vague here.

anyway Jupiter/Uranus on its own signifies luck, relief, and a pretty jolly mood actually. Just think of Jupiter and Uranus together, what kind of nunsense these two could do together! But having a whole lot of fun doing all the crazy stuff.

posted February 15, 2015 06:48 AM            

1. Locate any dynamic synastric aspects within an orb of 1°, (at most 2°) -
meaning: conjunction, opposition, square (and Ebertin also uses the semisquare and sesisquare)

2. Identify the midpoints that are triggered in each natal.

For example.

Person A`s Moon conjunct person B`s Uranus with an orb of 0°05, so that would be very close and relevant.

Now you look at each natal midpoints, and we see in their natal:

Person A has Moon= Saturn/Neptune
Person B has Uranus = Venus/Mars

That means that the connection would trigger in A the experience of

MOON TO MIDPOINT SATURN/NEPTUNE
Emotional drain, feeling inhibited, lack of emotional maturity.
Illness through emotional suffering. Women's disorders or diseases.

While in person B the same aspect would trigger this:

URANUS TO MIDPOINT VENUS/MARS
Intense passion; high nervous involvement with things sexual; sexual
experimentation; dangerous liaison. Sexual assault.

Do you have the same mental image coming up, when reading this combination?

It does not neccessarily have to happen like this, but it seems very clear that both persons will react very differently to each other.

The reason why the orb has to be that tight is twofold:
a) because midpoints need a close orb
b) because those midpoints get switched on by directions, transits, progressions and being brought to life, and those never exceed an orb of 0°30 or 1°00 (in the case of transits) - as a triggering tool at least.

posted February 15, 2015 07:29 AM            

His moon possibly (8 sag)=my sun/Asc mp(7 sag)

His sun (cap 8)=my moon/uranus mp (7 cap)

His pluto (11 Lib)=my merc/uranus mp(10 lib)
My uranus/pluto (12 lib)
And loosely my sun/venus mp (9 lib)

His sat(1 leo)=my mars/uranus mp (00 leo)

His True node (20 scorp)=my venus/MH mp(19 scorp)
His true node also=my pluto/true node mp (19 scorpio)

His juno (18 Virgo)loosely=my Mars/jup mp (20 Virgo)
His juno=my sat/neptune (19 Virgo)

His pluto (11 libra)=my uranus/pluto mp (12 lib

His uranus (6 scorpio)= my nep/pluto mp (4 scorp)
And my pluto/MH (7 scorp)

His venus (27 scorp)=my uranus/true node mp (27 scorp)

posted February 15, 2015 08:01 AM            

My venus (29'29' libra)=his merc sat mp )28 lib)
My venus also = his pluto/node (00 scorpio)

My neptune (4 sag)= his venus/neptune mp (4 sag)

My Ceres and juno (11 sag)= possible moon/nep mp (10 sag)

My Pallas (16 scorpio)=his venus/uranus mp (16 scorpio)

posted February 15, 2015 08:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Septembergirl:
Do you want natal chart data,

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natal chart data of the three or four of you, however you want.
if unsure about the birthtime, pick 12:00 p.m.

posted February 15, 2015 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Septembergirl:

His True node (20 scorp)=my venus/MH mp(19 scorp)
His true node also=my pluto/true node mp (19 scorpio)

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This is amazing so a connection with him (Nodes are seeing as connections simply in cosmobiology, the branch that uses midpoints) would trigger love pure and simply in you (Venus/MC) plus the feeling of fated and compulsive connection (Pluto/Node).

posted February 15, 2015 08:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Septembergirl:

My venus (29'29' libra)=his merc sat mp )28 lib)
My venus also = his pluto/node (00 scorpio)

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he feels the fatedness and compulsion as well (his pluto/Node), especially in relation to you as a woman, in your feminity, and in the way you express love and relate to others in a more personal romantic way.

However, it seemst o also trigger serious thoughts in him, it seemst hat the Mercury/SAturn is a bit on the wide side, which is probably good.
Nevertheless, at times that could mean that the seriousness of his thoughts (which is a good thing he takes you serious!) might wear him down and make him a little depressed.

The Mercury/Saturn-mp also has the meaning of "thoughts of separation";
we donīt really know separation of whom, it could very well be that this relates to him having thoughts of separation from his wife, triggered by the fated and compelling pull he feels towards you.
On the other hand if she is gone, the midpoint will still be there and then what?

Anyway on the flip side of course Mercury/Saturn indicates the maturation of thought processes (often through a certain sobering up, and frustrations or depressions). But whatever you trigger some serious thinking in him, which might actually lead to bring more structure into his life.

posted February 15, 2015 08:52 AM            

His is xxxxxx Unknown birthtime-but I know it was at night (I used 3 am because I'm feeling his asc is scorpio, but I wouldn't rule out cancer/leo either). Same general area .
I will need to delete this quickly.

posted February 15, 2015 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I want orbs, exact orbs! and oppositions and squares, or I am going to go into my pouting corner!

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I kept all the orbs under one degree, if that's any consolation?

posted February 15, 2015 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No I meant, your birthdata. Birthtime. Birthplace, so I can look it up on my own (because I need not only the degrees, but also the minutes, plus I then can run it through Solar fire which calculates at least the natal midpoints for me. I am lazy like that. )

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posted February 15, 2015 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Ahhhh see, I don't have solar fire. And astro.com only lets you pull up one midpoint chart at a time so it's hard to compare them.

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posted February 15, 2015 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I kept all the orbs under one degree, if that's any consolation?

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posted February 15, 2015 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

he feels the fatedness and compulsion as well (his pluto/Node), especially in relation to you as a woman, in your feminity, and in the way you express love and relate to others in a more personal romantic way.

However, it seemst o also trigger serious thoughts in him, it seemst hat the Mercury/SAturn is a bit on the wide side, which is probably good.
Nevertheless, at times that could mean that the seriousness of his thoughts (which is a good thing he takes you serious!) might wear him down and make him a little depressed.

The Mercury/Saturn-mp also has the meaning of "thoughts of separation";
we donīt really know separation of whom, it could very well be that this relates to him having thoughts of separation from his wife, triggered by the fated and compelling pull he feels towards you.
On the other hand if she is gone, the midpoint will still be there and then what?

Anyway on the flip side of course Mercury/Saturn indicates the maturation of thought processes (often through a certain sobering up, and frustrations or depressions). But whatever you trigger some serious thinking in him, which might actually lead to bring more structure into his life.

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So it is quite possible I'm the reason he drinks so much.
Ugh. My progressed natal hits a lot of the same triggers, since my progressed sun is now at 0' scorpio.
The points in our composite looks very similar to my progressed natal as well.

posted February 15, 2015 03:47 PM            

so just checking your "contactcosmogram".

These are your dynamic aspects (I expanded the orb to about 2° though, but keep in mind, the closer, the more evident they will be)

oh and I occasionally mention (true)Lilith, Juno and Ceres.
The reason I do this is that I have the hypothesis (though I am not totally sure of course), that Lilith often represents "the other woman", in the very least however relationships that are somehow outside of society, sometimes downright forbidden and taboo, and not socially accepted for various reasons (often enough triangular relationships, but could also be a religious clash, or outside the norm when it comes to sexual orientation, agegap etc.).
The thing is these Lilith-relationships simply drive you crazy! And oftentimes over the edge. They are often VERY truthful in a soul-sense, because they do not care a little bit about what is acceptable in social terms, they just connect to each other when there is a real soulful connection there. They are still quite difficult to deal with though, as they are so uncompromising.

Juno to me is the archetype of the "wife", a very powerful archetype, and not submissive at all btw. However she does tend to accept her social function and the limitations often coming with this. She often will nag and argue with her husband a lot, but at the same time she will be loyal to him and stand at his side.
Where LIlith does not hesitate to take her leave, Juno will stay and try to make it work.

Ceres to me is the archetype of the "mother", caring about nothing but her daughter, (which does not have to be a literal child, but could be any other person, too). You will know her in her passion to nurture and care and PROTECT.

Those three have definitely some things in common, their unyielding devotion to their principles, their passion, and also a tendency to get really nasty and revengeful, if someone - seriously- overstepped their boundaries.

It`s just Lilith fights for her right to equal (soulful) love; Juno fights for her marriage; Ceres fights for her family.

Anyway I am babbling, so your dynamic aspects

your ASC sesisquare his Pluto 1°24

your Node semisquare his Node 1°25

your Uranus opposite his LILITH 0°18 (!)
your Chiron conjunct his LILITH 1°48

your MC semisquare his MErcury 0°22
your JUNO semisquare his Mercury 0°56

your Venus square his Saturn 1°41

your Jupiter opposite his Saturn 1°30
your Jupiter sesisquare his Mars 0°08
your Jupiter sesisquare his JUNO 1°04

your LILITH semisquare his Uranus 0°51 (!)
your Sun semisquare his URanus 1°19
your Sun conjunct his JUNO 1°14

your MC conjunct his Neptune 2°03
your JUNO conjunct his Neptune 1°28
your CERES conjunct his Neptune 1°10

Unfortunately since his birthtime is unknown, we can`t use Moon, ASC or MC.
Also of course there are no interpretations available when it comes to Lilith, Juno, Ceres - we have to think about that ourselves. I found them intriguing nevertheless.

posted February 15, 2015 04:06 PM            

Your ASC=
Mars/MC = Sun/Venus=Venus/Lilith= Mercury/Uranus = Mars/Ceres = Sun/Jupiter (1°06)

ASCENDANT TO MIDPOINT SUN/VENUS
A loving and kind-hearted personality, love of other people. A love
contact, mutual love.

ASCENDANT TO MIDPOINT SUN/JUPITER
Devoting one's life to good objectives or social aspirations.
Enthusiasm, infectious happiness, successful teamwork.

ASC TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/URANUS
The application of practical principles in the creation of one's
environment; circumspection, prudence or deliberation; organising
ability. Accidents through fast action or recklessness.

ASC TO MIDPOINT MARS/M.C.
Self-confidence, gaining the respect of other people, the assumption
of leadership.

he most definitely triggers feelings of love in you, and does so in a very intense manner (it is his PLuto after all), but there is also the possibility of kinship, working together, being friends and associates.
All in all it stimulates a rather nice place in your chart for you.
Your Sun is natally tightly interwoven with Lilith, so there is this need for very true soulful relating, that primal visceral response, and he definitely triggers that in you, especially in terms of romance (Venus/Lilith, Sun/Venus).

for him it looks like this

his Pluto
= Sun/Jupiter = Node/Ceres = Mars/URanus = Uranus/Juno (a surprising commitment?)

PLUTO TO MIDPOINT MARS/URANUS
Force, violent interventions, higher power.

PLUTO TO MIDPOINT SUN/JUPITER
Pursuit of happiness and fortune. The expectation of good luck, the
acquiring of wealth, the state of happiness. Successful efforts,
great good luck, inheritance.

Keep in mind, that these are based on Ebertin, and he was a bit drastic in his choice of words. Mars/Uranus is not always about violence (though it happens to turn up in eventcharts of assaults and accidents rather frequently - but we need to see the distinction, as thi is not an event chart here, but a birth and synastry one) - sometimes it just indicates acting too quickly, too rash, abruptly, without thinking etc.

For him this does not seem to be a place in his chart that is indicative of love directly, but it is still a positive one. The Pluto=Sun/Jupiter certainly tilts the impulsive action of Pluto = Mars/Uranus to the positive, but still it is quite the impulsive position here.

I find it VERY interesting that you both trigger Sun/Jupiter in each other, which means your Sun/jupiter-midpoints must be in dynamic relation to each other.
I find this also itneresting, as Mr Sag andm e have that as well (with 00.00 orb actually. lol)

In your case it puts your Sun/Jupiter into Scorpio, and his in Aquarius. for us it is the other way round, mine is in Aquarius, his in scorpio.

Funny not only do we both have the alignment of Sun/Jupiter-midpoints with our respective "partner", but also in the same signs (different degree area though).

Nevertheless it could be worse. Sun/Jupiter is such a nice supportive friendship and happiness and succes midpoint. I really like it.

all in all this looks like a good place for you (in terms of activation through directions or progressions or transits), even though it is tilted towards the romantic more for you than for him.

posted February 15, 2015 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Septembergirl:
So I'm destined to be his other woman??

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Sometimes the other woman becomes a wife.

Seriously though, these archetypes are so tightly intervowen for you, I wouldnīt dare to try splitting them up.

Your LILITH squaring Sun exactly
your JUNO and CERES on the MC.