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Topic: Do these charts literally make or break a relaitonship?
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DopGang
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From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6
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posted December 08, 2015 09:14 AM
  
Some people don't like it. Just as some don't like Facebook and others can't keep off it. We're all different. For example. I find that most people seem to want to salvage a friendship out of a breakup. Not me. I'd MUCH rather cut ties and move on. Some people prefer talking on the phone and hate texting.
I'm just saying, there's some reason for his behavior and you're better off just confronting him about it.
Asking us is like replacing 100 parts on your car until something works when you could have just gone to the mechanic and been done with it. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted December 08, 2015 10:02 AM
So even if the charts say something completely different I'm still suppose to believe him? quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
Some people don't like it. Just as some don't like Facebook and others can't keep off it. We're all different. For example. I find that most people seem to want to salvage a friendship out of a breakup. Not me. I'd MUCH rather cut ties and move on. Some people prefer talking on the phone and hate texting.
I'm just saying, there's some reason for his behavior and you're better off just confronting him about it.
Asking us is like replacing 100 parts on your car until something works when you could have just gone to the mechanic and been done with it.
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DopGang
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posted December 08, 2015 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So even if the charts say something completely different I'm still suppose to believe him?
What choice do you have? So, yes. Never put astrology before "real life". Astrology, as many have said several times now, is POTENTIAL.
If it weren't, I'd have had about 10 wives and 1,000 flings by now.
Probably some prison time, etc.
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 08, 2015 03:46 PM
Ok so what would you do if you had bad synastry and composite with someone but the other person wanted to be in a relationship with you? Would you avoid it since you know the charts are bad between you and that person? quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
What choice do you have? So, yes. Never put astrology before "real life". Astrology, as many have said several times now, is POTENTIAL.
If it weren't, I'd have had about 10 wives and 1,000 flings by now.
Probably some prison time, etc.
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Marandana
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posted December 09, 2015 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok so what would you do if you had bad synastry and composite with someone but the other person wanted to be in a relationship with you? Would you avoid it since you know the charts are bad between you and that person?
Of course not, if there is real attraction from both sides it's okay, but if there isn't I guess you can't do much. It doesn't matter whether you have a bad or good synastry chart, it just shows the potential.
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DopGang
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posted December 09, 2015 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok so what would you do if you had bad synastry and composite with someone but the other person wanted to be in a relationship with you? Would you avoid it since you know the charts are bad between you and that person?
Nope. I wouldn't be with my wife if I did!
We have good things, don't get me wrong but there's probably a thing or two that would scare off just about anyone.  IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted December 09, 2015 09:31 PM
Well if it's just potential then why have people been telling me I can't be friends with this guy because we have bad synastry and composite. That the friendship won't last long for various reasons. quote:
Originally posted by Marandana:
Of course not, if there is real attraction from both sides it's okay, but if there isn't I guess you can't do much. It doesn't matter whether you have a bad or good synastry chart, it just shows the potential.
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Cappi112
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posted December 10, 2015 06:01 AM
I haven't read this whole thread yet, but I find that once we are thinking "This decision will be based off of the astrology"... it is time to take a step back from astrology altogether.It is really unhealthy to base your decisions or viewpoints of ANYTHING off of astrology, because there are many ways of looking at aspects and energies in a chart. I urge you to take a different approach. Once I stopped looking at the charts to FIND the answers, and started interpreting the charts to find potential energies in play, everything was much healthier in my life. If you want to stop contact with this person - is it because of how he is treating you, or based mostly off of what you are reading about the charts? If it is the latter, that is a sign to you that astrology is no longer a healthy tool in your life. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted December 10, 2015 07:59 AM
Someone else read my charts awhile ago and the person never said I couldn't be friends with this guy. The way that other people are saying. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004038.html I never know who or what to believe because people say so many different things. Yes it's mostly because of what people have been saying about the charts. It makes me feel like I should just give up and end contact with him altogether. quote:
Originally posted by Cappi112:
I haven't read this whole thread yet, but I find that once we are thinking "This decision will be based off of the astrology"... it is time to take a step back from astrology altogether.It is really unhealthy to base your decisions or viewpoints of ANYTHING off of astrology, because there are many ways of looking at aspects and energies in a chart. I urge you to take a different approach. Once I stopped looking at the charts to FIND the answers, and started interpreting the charts to find potential energies in play, everything was much healthier in my life. If you want to stop contact with this person - is it because of how he is treating you, or based mostly off of what you are reading about the charts? If it is the latter, that is a sign to you that astrology is no longer a healthy tool in your life.
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Sunnya
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From: Sunnyland
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posted December 10, 2015 09:27 AM
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 10, 2015 10:03 AM
I believe we could become friends but that it will take a lot of work. Yet based on what others have said about my natal chart. I could just be deceiving myself. quote:
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What do YOU believe?
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Sunnya
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posted December 10, 2015 10:36 AM
It was also said that what is presented here are the potentials and possibilities. Nothing is set on stone. You are going on circles here. You keep looking for reassurance on how you should act and you are way too attached on what these charts are saying. Meanwhile life is happening. You need to have confidence on yourself and follow what you want to do whatever that may be.
Sometimes things go wonderfully, other times not so much, but in the end, we always learn or gain something from an experience we needed to go through. The good thing about having Astrology as a tool is having information that otherwise you wouldn't have. Meaning, you have an understanding of a certain situation when or if it pops up. You are less likely to be totally clueless on how to deal with a certain tension or situation.
It still can happen because we are dealing with humans and yea, we surprise each other lots of times. But that's life.  I can't tell you to be or not be buddies with this person, you know better than me and even better than Astrology itself. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted December 11, 2015 02:16 PM
When you say potentials and possibilities what exactly are you saying? Someone else here who read my chart said that my chart indicated that the man is leading the woman on. That the man is not invested. That doesn't make sense to me because I am not trying to be in a romantic relationship with this guy. Also if he wasn't invested why is he wasting his time creating fake facebook accounts and talking to me on them?
This is why I have a hard time understanding what is happening when the charts say one thing but he's doing another. quote:
Originally posted by Sunnya:
It was also said that what is presented here are the potentials and possibilities. Nothing is set on stone. You are going on circles here. You keep looking for reassurance on how you should act and you are way too attached on what these charts are saying. Meanwhile life is happening. You need to have confidence on yourself and follow what you want to do whatever that may be.
Sometimes things go wonderfully, other times not so much, but in the end, we always learn or gain something from an experience we needed to go through. The good thing about having Astrology as a tool is having information that otherwise you wouldn't have. Meaning, you have an understanding of a certain situation when or if it pops up. You are less likely to be totally clueless on how to deal with a certain tension or situation.
It still can happen because we are dealing with humans and yea, we surprise each other lots of times. But that's life. I can't tell you to be or not be buddies with this person, you know better than me and even better than Astrology itself.
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SunAscendant
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 11, 2015 05:48 PM
No, but many times there are really great aspects to outweigh really bad ones. My parents are an example. Their name asteroids were transiting conjunct in an exact applying conjunction on the day of their wedding along with synastry and composite aspects, transits and good progressions (mostly to my mom's chart), but they still have some bad aspects. Sometimes I wonder how they've stayed together for 27 years, but then I remember that they both have Taurus moons and do have good aspects to outweigh bad; I'm a Taurus Sun and have a Grand Earth trine and am basically Earth-heavy in general, so as much as I hate my dad sometimes, his earthy Virgo Sun/Taurus Moon do match up in the end with my Earthiness.IP: Logged |
mir
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posted December 11, 2015 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
The person with the aspected moon, has their sun moon midpoint right on the other persons ICIn other words their midpoint hits an angle of the other persons chart. That may be enough to trump the lack of moon aspects possibly.
There's another thing that would make up for it. Although his TOB is unknown they have tight (if not exact) opposing moon phases! Attraction and completion to say the least. It even results in a Compo Sun/moon opp.
I have this also currently, a seemingly unaspected Moon (mine) but our moon phases exactly opposite. Unfortunately the phases are an extremely neglected subject in astrology. And next to that, let's not underestimate aspects in the declinations which the Moon might make. Or the Compo Moon to the natals. There's too much to consider really. IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted December 11, 2015 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
There's another thing that would make up for it. Although his TOB is unknown they have tight (if not exact) opposing moon phases! Attraction and completion to say the least. It even results in a Compo Sun/moon opp. I have this also currently, a seemingly unaspected Moon (mine) but our moon phases exactly opposite. Unfortunately the phases are an extremely neglected subject in astrology. And next to that, let's not underestimate aspects in the declinations which the Moon might make. Or the Compo Moon to the natals. There's too much to consider really.
mir, what's the easiest way to figure out the moon phases?
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mir
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posted December 11, 2015 09:02 PM
Emgem, it's really a visual focus (on the synastry/natal chart) and a true understanding of the phases, after which you can find the exact orbs with the additional tables (if u want). Globally, what forms an opposing phase is for example a waxing sextile + waning trine together (and vice versa). A waning quincunx + waxing semi-sextile (and vice versa). A waning square + waxing square. A conjunction + opposition. A waning semi-square + waxing sesquisquare (and vice versa). A waxing 24-deg aspect + waning 156-deg aspect (and vice versa). Etc.To get grip on these... u need to absorb this pic so you can also visualize it, http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted December 11, 2015 09:27 PM
Thanks Mir  I found some other articles too, thanks for the link. I have my Gemini sun at 20 degrees, moon at 1 degree Virgo. 71 degrees ahead of the sun - quintile. That would make it crescent moon phase correct?
He has sun at 25 Aries, moon at 29 Leo, so a trine. First quarter moon phase?
In astrology terms, what do these refer to in terms of waxing/waning etc like you pointed out? IP: Logged |
mir
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posted December 11, 2015 11:14 PM
^ globally yes.I think this is a very nice article...
http://www.cosmicwindow.com/cycles.html
I hope to come back with an understandable summary.
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 11, 2015 11:50 PM
Hello are you referring to the composite I have with this guy? quote:
Originally posted by mir:
There's another thing that would make up for it. Although his TOB is unknown they have tight (if not exact) opposing moon phases! Attraction and completion to say the least. It even results in a Compo Sun/moon opp. I have this also currently, a seemingly unaspected Moon (mine) but our moon phases exactly opposite. Unfortunately the phases are an extremely neglected subject in astrology. And next to that, let's not underestimate aspects in the declinations which the Moon might make. Or the Compo Moon to the natals. There's too much to consider really.
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 13, 2015 08:16 AM
What does it mean to have exact opposing moon phases in Synastry? IP: Logged |
NikiVenus6
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posted December 13, 2015 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I did remove some of the aspects but I know without his birth time some things won't be known. I used 12:00pm for his birth time because I don't know the real time.Synastry 
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I sense moon cnj sat/ura is not healthy. But Venus conjunct IC is extremely good. I see that as a marriage asp (one of the). However, I am sorry but who is inside and who is out? For Venus conjunct IC I can say through observation that IC person really likes Venus's energy there. Building a home together is a mutual feeling.
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 13, 2015 12:10 PM
I couldn't remember so I just did another chart he's the outside. Would the Venus/IC aspect even matter since he and I have bad aspects? Based on what the other person said who read the charts. The good aspects really don't seem to matter since this guy and I have other bad aspects. I just keep thinking that there is a chance that he and I could one day become good friends. Maybe that's just me being delusional though. I did the the good aspects mattered though I don't know.Synastry  Composite  Davison  Draconic 
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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
I sense moon cnj sat/ura is not healthy. But Venus conjunct IC is extremely good. I see that as a marriage asp (one of the). However, I am sorry but who is inside and who is out? For Venus conjunct IC I can say through observation that IC person really likes Venus's energy there. Building a home together is a mutual feeling.
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