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mar1982delta
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posted March 04, 2016 06:22 PM
  
Hello Ceri!
Very interesting subject!
Would it be too much if I asked for your help with the marks chart ? There is no rush, whenever you have time!
I tried to "fix" the angles, I adjusted a bit the time (summertime) and found the nearest langitude/latitude because the original davison coordinators fell somewhere in the sea! LOL
Hope I did it right..
There are yods in both cases and yods are still very difficult for me, so I would really appreciate your insight, thanks a lot!IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted March 04, 2016 06:42 PM
Thar she be, Ceri  So I guess that puts Lilith on the MC also!!! Pluto, 5th house ruler = Sun/Moon midpoint Fun and games eh??  Oh and Saturn hanging out there in the 5h! Perfect  IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted March 04, 2016 06:49 PM
Also, here's mine... speaking of last degrees of a sign! Yowzers...Composite NN with my daughter's father is at 29 Pisces. I've always known that was important... 
I think it's really interesting that both of our Suns are aspecting Uranus... for him, it's the square-- manifesting more internally. And if we go with the notion the Sun represents the more male identified person in the pair... well... it would make sense that I have the opposition.
Also... there's Sedna again... I need to feel deeper into her, she is clearly a bit of a keynote of the relationship, and also his psyche as she's conjunct his chart ruler Merc. Here's SolarFire's write-up re: Sedna in the 8th. I'd say I'm tending towards the latter half 
"This can be a tricky placement for the tiny planetoid Sedna. The metaphysical 8th House of your birth chart already holds a lot of deep and meaningful treasures and Sedna is an expert at delving in. The problem is who is going to get you out of deep waters if you travel too far in? It is likely that you will have one of two paths, depending on the rest of your birth chart. One path is to avoid delving into esoteric matters at all. You doggedly refuse to admit that there may be a God, calling yourself an atheistic. You also refuse to merge with another human being in an intimate manner. This means that your sexuality is repressed, you do not share money well and you refuse to do business with another person. You can manage quite well by skimming over the surface, fearing the depths. On the other hand you could be the type of person to throw yourself in the deep end. You search the libraries, the Internet, the halls of learning and any resource you can find to discover the meaning of money, business, sex, relationships and the universe. You are diving for treasure and the more that you look, the more that you are likely to find it."
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LunaIscariot
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posted March 04, 2016 10:20 PM
 This is my boyfriends Marks chart with me. We have a very intense relationship and i've broken up with him numerous times, but he always takes me back. I don't think he loves me though, so i'm curious as to what this chart means from his point of view. Any help is appreciated, thank you <3 His Natal;  IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted March 05, 2016 12:01 AM
Davison with my Ex and my chart contains a very lovely kite:Valentine in Gemini @1d59
Jupiter in Sagittarius @1d57
Moon in Libra @0d28
Venus in Capricorn @29d08
Eros in Capricorn @28d07 Vertex conjunct IC exact No wonder I went bonkers over him; tight Valentine grand trine with Moon and Venus conjunct Eros forming a kite with Jupiter! Can we say WOW?! Hell of a Love kite showing my extreme devotion and willingness to fight for us. Sadly Davison with my Ex and his chart does not look that lovely IMO; Well the placements are nice at least (Mars and northnode in 7th, Sun and mercury conjunct Psyche in the 8th, Venus sextile Mars and trine Amor with Sun in the 8th semisextile Venus and Mars so Sun in the 8th at the midpoint of venus/Mars *point of passion, Jupiter conjunct Saturn near MC, Pluto and Juno in the 10th, Uranus in the 11th, and Neptune in the 12th, Moon sextile Cupido exact, valentine at apex of yod with jupiter sextile psyche). Its actually better than I originally thought..So what does this placements indicate about how he felt the relationship affected him? With my husband our davison midpoint with him is lovely involving a nodal kite with norhtnode conjunct venus at the top sextiling Moon on one side and Jupiter conjunct Saturn on the other, there was also Sun conjunct Cupido. With Mr.Aqua his Mark's Chart has Venus conjunct Northnode exact and my Mark's Chart has Moon conjunct Cupido by 1d. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted March 05, 2016 12:59 AM
OK so progressed Davison the day we met had IC and Eros conjuncting my natal Venus and Mars exact and squaring his Sun-Uranus. That is the only thing that truly sticks out to me. It was kiss at first sight and we kissed for over an hour but it wasn't just kissing, it was so much more than that so the IC there makes a lot of sense. It felt like I found a long lost soulmate that my soul had been dying to reunite with for a very long time, it felt like coming home finally. This month our Eros and Psyche both conjunct @5d55 so with a 0d00 orb. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Hello Ceri!
Very interesting subject!
Would it be too much if I asked for your help with the marks chart ? There is no rush, whenever you have time!
I tried to "fix" the angles, I adjusted a bit the time (summertime) and found the nearest langitude/latitude because the original davison coordinators fell somewhere in the sea! LOL
Hope I did it right..
There are yods in both cases and yods are still very difficult for me, so I would really appreciate your insight, thanks a lot!
I know what you mean with the coordinates! Funny enough I found a city very close to ours, which coincidentally is the city I was going to university in (incidentally apparently his best friend was going to the same university and we even studied the same thing. lol) Anyway I remember when I was a kid, we would visit my great grandmother who was living in the city next to his birth and home town, and whenever we passed the city (which is near our Davison-mid-location) I had that weird feeling of crossing a mark/ a line, almost like once we passed the city we were almost being there (of course I did not know him back then or where he lived, we were just visiting relatives. ) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
So I guess that puts Lilith on the MC also!!!Pluto, 5th house ruler = Sun/Moon midpoint Fun and games eh?? Oh and Saturn hanging out there in the 5h! Perfect
I don`t see LIlith? Pluto, 5th house ruler = Sun/Moon-mp yes, I hear you.
And well Vertex on the Mars-Uranus definitely bringing it even more to the foreground.
Let me ask you something: how was mid-late december for the two of you in relationship terms?
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Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 06:05 AM
Lunal, he probably does nto feel like he has much of a choice, with THAT concise pattern. It`s like a lock has closed. Not easy at all, but the romance or the attraction or love is making him feel exposed and also generating that feelng of "shall I stay or shall I go?", very much tension but at the same time it changes his life, it is exciting, it can be healing (but only if he allows it to be) and it is probably very compelling to him.
I do not get why do you think he does not love you? Why would he be with you if he didn`t?
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Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 06:10 AM
Yun, sorry, but I am getting tired of looking at all these aspect lines in the chart. It`s just too overloaded for me to be honest. Doesnt mean I am not interested in your charts, it`s just too much too take in for me. And it all gets muddled up in my small brain. But yes, I noticed, too, that we have same planet aspects in the Marks charts, just of different flavour, like I have Jupiter sextile Mars and he has the square.
Also in terms of midpoints I noticed:
His Moon opposite Uranus/Node
My Moon conjunct Uranus/Node
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Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
.So what does this placements indicate about how he felt the relationship affected him?.
I can`t really wrap my mind around all that without a chart image to go with, but I guess with the Venus-Mars there was strong sexual attraction there, plus the placements in 7th and 8th indicating he was turned to you and you left quite some effect there. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 06:27 AM
These are our Marks charts
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Sunnya
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posted March 05, 2016 06:55 AM
Hmmm I wanted to contribute and do the Marks Charts so I played a bit with Planetdance, but the angles are a bit off for me.
It even gives me a Sag rising instead of a Scorpio rising...I will be reading the thread then  . IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 07:27 AM
Sunnya, the angles of your birthchart are off on PD?
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yungang_grotto
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posted March 05, 2016 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I don`t see LIlith?Pluto, 5th house ruler = Sun/Moon-mp yes, I hear you.
And well Vertex on the Mars-Uranus definitely bringing it even more to the foreground.
Let me ask you something: how was mid-late december for the two of you in relationship terms?
Ah yes I'm so sorry about the aspect lines... all that finnagling and I messed up the most simple thing.. talk about small brains (and busy mamas!... I guess we can cut ourselves some slack! ) Lilith doesn't show up there in solarfire but according to astro at least one Lilith is at 29'48 Pisces, so falls on the midheaven in that chart. It really seems like he is experiencing this relationship as a culmination of all of his shady dealings in the past with Lilith energy. The community is confronting him and approaching him about whether he loves me, whether he likes this other girl, etc etc. All of their own volition! But it makes him very uncomfortable because he's spent a lot of time and energy sneaking around having illicit or taboo affairs in his life and with me that's all just out the window/on display. Nothing of my doing, it's just happening. I think ultimately it should help him see that it's all really alright and flush out some guilt. Because I myself am not judging him... I see him for who he is. He isn't evil. Mid-late December was basically pure bliss.. our bond was really deepening.. we spent xmas together and i gave him a key to my place. However on solstice his beloved friend witnessed our closeness and got extremely sad realizing how he could be a good partner and began to reel him back in... so things took a subtle turn around the end of December where he began to feel torn between us.. but he was still very kind and present. He and she cuddled though on the 27th i later found out. I think that was the beginning of a lot of hardship which came in January... and returns in cycles... although she has once again chosen her boyfriend (and I can see why, her Marks chart is especially telling with a Venus Saturn square among other things) so maybe things will calm down for a while now. One can hope! Composite Uranus features so prominently that the only way to experience this relationship is by weathering the storms and enjoying them. Can't force it to be what it's not...
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yungang_grotto
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posted March 05, 2016 08:55 AM
I feel like I've already overburdened this board but I was just looking at my synastry with the Davison which is of course part of the Marks method and just had to share... check out those two Chiron yods!    thanks for all your help and patience IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 09:37 AM
They say Yods are very fated, donīt they? (well fated in the sense that there is just something that keeps you hooked, something you just feel you HAVE to be together to work out I guess. Something in the relationship that furthers your growth, and without it, it`s not possible to grow as much as through the connection)BTW I love that Sun-Venus on IC and the NN on DESC. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
this is my synastry with the Davison chart (my chart is in the inner wheel)
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as you see I could just not fight the temptation of asteroids. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 05, 2016 10:05 AM
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hypatia238
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posted March 05, 2016 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I can`t really wrap my mind around all that without a chart image to go with, but I guess with the Venus-Mars there was strong sexual attraction there, plus the placements in 7th and 8th indicating he was turned to you and you left quite some effect there.
Thanks a lot Ceri! That was very helpful. Thanks for starting this thread too, very interesting stuff. 
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LunaIscariot
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posted March 05, 2016 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Lunal, he probably does nto feel like he has much of a choice, with THAT concise pattern. It`s like a lock has closed. Not easy at all, but the romance or the attraction or love is making him feel exposed and also generating that feelng of "shall I stay or shall I go?", very much tension but at the same time it changes his life, it is exciting, it can be healing (but only if he allows it to be) and it is probably very compelling to him.
I do not get why do you think he does not love you? Why would he be with you if he didn`t?
Well first of all, he's never said it, and I also feel like he's still in love with his Ex. We got together a month after they broke up and I feel like I'm just his rebound. He REFUSES to cut contact with her (gotta love that Scorpio moon loyalty :P)
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yungang_grotto
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posted March 05, 2016 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
this is my synastry with the Davison chart (my chart is in the inner wheel)
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as you see I could just not fight the temptation of asteroids.
Pretty much a moon-vertex double whammy Sun-Sun whoa... and talk about Chiron yods eh!
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yungang_grotto
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posted March 05, 2016 09:38 PM
Oops my bad maybe Chiron isn't part of that yod... still a powerful looking couple of yods there. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 06, 2016 12:31 PM
Aw, Ceri, one of my dear friends from childhood was born the day after your Davison date. She's awesome. Sorry I haven't read the whole thread, just dropping data here: My husband's Marks chart: *19 Pisces sun, 8H
-Conjunct my natal 18 Pisces moon in the 8H *20 Taurus moon in the 10H
-Conjunct my natal 20 Taurus SN in the 10H, and my Marks MC * 0 Aries Venus
-Conjunct my natal 0 Aries Vesta *7 Aqua Saturn
-Conjunct my natal 7 Aqua DSC * 8 Virgo Pluto
-Conjunct his 6 Virgo Venus * Late Aqua Jupiter-Mars opposing late Leo Uranus on his natal Mars 
-Conjunct my ASC-DSC Marks axis
-Square my Marks Saturn at 27 Taurus --- My Marks chart: * 7 Gemini sun
-Trine Marks Uranus @ 9 Libra
-Conjunct my natal 7 Gemini Psyche
-Sextile his natal 7 Leo sun * 11 Leo moon, in the 12H
-Conjunct his sun, a bit widely
-Forming t-square with Marks 13 Taurus Venus, 15 Taurus Mercury (both in 9H, on his natal SN) and 12 Aqua Mars.
-Trine 12 Aries Chiron in the 8H * 20 Taurus MC
Conjunct his Marks moon, my natal SN * 0 Sag Jupiter, 1 Sag Neptune
Trine his Marks Venus @ 0 Aries --- Not sure what conclusions to draw but there are lots of interconnections across the charts. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted March 06, 2016 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, actually you make a Davison first; and then you can make a Davison between that one and each natal. No, not much work actually. At least not if you have planetdance. On astro.com you have to simply cast the davison as a natal chart (you know the date of the Davison after all).
Edit: Got it! It's a meta-Davison. IP: Logged |
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