posted March 03, 2016 09:30 AM            

Edit: I might try it later..

posted March 03, 2016 10:56 AM            

I know it is not technically a Marks chart, but if Marks chart have any value, first it must be clear that Davison charts have validity (which I believe they have though I am not sure in what way, I am clearer about the composite in this regard).

Nevertheless so I progressed the Davison chart to our first meeting and yes, I`d say in our case it not only brings up major things but yes it is also quite descriptive.

The pr Davison itself was having a Mercury-Saturn-conjunction (0°30a) in Leo

Venus in 3rd just having passed opposite Neptune in 9th (0°35s)

Also, Moon in 7th (intercepted) sextile the chartruler Uranus in 8th (0°39a)

And the links from pr Davison to n Davison:

pr Moon conjunct 8th cusp: 0°10 a

pr Mercury sextile Jupiter in 5th: 0°11
pr Saturn sextile Jupiter in 5th: 0°19 s

pr Venus conjunct Mercury in 5th: 0°10a
pr Venus opposite Neptune in 11th: 0°08a

pr Pluto quinkunx Venus in 3rd: 0°10a
(this is of course part of the basic Davison already, but was being made tighter in orb)

pr ASC trine Sun in 6th: 0°46 s

the pr Davison-Mercury-Saturn conjunction is most interesting to me, as it took place on 16°48 Leo and 17°18 Leo.
Back then in my own individual progressions I had:

pr Vertex 17°53 Leo

pr Mercury 18°04 Aquarius
pr Venus 18°02 Aquarius
n Moon 17°06 Aquarius

And also

pr Davison ASC 28°14 Aquarius
my pr Lilith 28°13 Aquarius

I do NOT want to talk about it

For him, the pr Davison Sun seemed rather interesting.

pr Davison Sun 26°58 Cancer

his pr Sun 25°55 Capricorn
his n Venus 25°55 Capricorn
(his n Juno 27°37 Cancer)

and

pr Davison DESC 28°14 Leo

his pr NN 29°37 Leo (r)

BTW Sabian symbols.

pr D-Venus 14 Gemini
D-Mercury 14 Gemini
"Two Dutch Children Talking To Each Other, Exchanging Their Knowledge"

pr D-Moon 7 Virgo
D-8th cusp 7 Virgo
"A Five-Year-Old Child Takes A First Dancing Lesson"

pr D-ASC 28 Aquarius
my pr Lilith 28 Aquarius
"A Butterfly Emerging From A Chrysalis"

pr D-DESC 28 Leo
"A Mermaid Emerges From The Ocean Waves Ready For Rebirth In Human Form"

his pr NN 29 Leo
"An Unsealed Letter"

posted March 03, 2016 01:03 PM            

So for the concert when he completely took me (and probably himself as well ) by surprise by the comment he made on me.

My Event-Davison
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° Mercury, ruler of DESC, conjunct MC in Libra, being the apex planet of a double T-square to the Uranus-Neptune-conjunction in 1st opposing Mars in 7th

- well the MErcury-Uranus-square might be very wide in orb, but i think the others pull it in

Mercury 16 Libra
MC 17 Libra

Uranus 22 Cap r
Neptune 20 Cap

Mars 18 Cancer

A picture can`t get any clear than that! in depicting me being completely surprised, overwhelmed, bewildered and basically just going into this mode

- Uranus conjunct Neptune in 1st house -

due to the action of a man I was encountering (Mars in 7th house),

and this whole thing manifesting visibly (MC) and verbally (Mercury)

(and of course shaking up my own thoughts a bit)

That Mercury was also conjunct Sun/Jupiter-mp and MC was also conjunct Sun/Jupiter-mp, so not the worst case scenario here

That was certainly the configuration getting instant attention, though I do also see there was a loose Jupiter-Node-conjunction (4 degrees) with Lilith sitting on the SN in 5th house at 1 degree.

there was also an exact Sun-Uranus trine and a one degree Venus-Saturn-trine,

oh and some interesting midpoint pictures like

Sun conjunct Mars/Pluto 0°12
Venus conjunct Mercury/Pluto 0°08
Venus conjunct Pluto/MC 0°31
Jupiter conjunct Venus/Node 0°55

Btw Satrn square MOon/Mercury 0°52?
Could that have been the picture depicting how I was so shellshocked that any verbal expression (Mercury) of my emotional reaction to it (Moon) was completely muted (Saturn)?

Neptune square Mars/Uranus 0°01

Pluto conjunct Venus/ASC 0°23
Pluto conjunct Sun/Moon 1°08

Node conjunct Venus/Pluto 0°25
Node conjunct Mercury/ASC 0°09
Nodew conjunct ASC/MC 0°29
Node square Saturn/Uranus 1°08

Lilith opposite ASC/MC 1°02

ASC conjunct Sun/Saturn =^50
ASC conjunct Jupiter/Neptune 0°22
ASC square Mars/jupiter 0°34

MC conjunct Sun/jupiter 0°21
MC square Saturn(Pluto 0°49

the snapshot from his perspective
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° Neptune conjunct ASC at 1 degree, with Neptune on 29 Cap and on the verge of changing into Aqua (funny enough in my event-Davison Moon was on 1 Aqua. lol)

° Sun widely conjunct Venus;
Mars conjunct NN;

so ....

Venus loosely on the SN, Mars on the NN
Sun conjunct Venus
Sun opposite Mars
Venus opposite Mars

in numbers

Venus 22 Pisces
Sun 26 PIsces

Mars 26 Virgo
NN 28 Virgo

But at the same time

Moon in Cancer in 6th square Saturn in Aries in 2nd,

but also Jupiter conjunct Uranus in 1st (and quinkunx that Moon widely - very lopsided, as it was

midpoints
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Sun conjunct Mercury/Venus
Moon oppospite Jupiter/Pluto
Mercury conjunct Sun/Saturn
Venus opposite Moon/Pluto 0°12
Mars opposite Mercury7Venus
Uranus conjunct Saturn/Pluto
Neptune conjunct Sun/MC
Neptune conjunct Venus/Pluto
Pluto conjunct Mars/Jupiter
Pluto conjunct Jupiter/Node
Node opposite Sun/Mercury
Lilith opposite Venus/Uranus 0°08
Lilith opposite Mercury/Neptune
Lilith opposite Mercury/ASC
ASC conjunct Sun/MC
ASC conjunct Venus/Pluto
MC conjunct Neptune/Node

Seems I wasn`t the only one bewildered that evening.

That Neptune on ASC alone is really sufficient to explain it. lol

posted March 03, 2016 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, actually you make a Davison first; and then you can make a Davison between that one and each natal. No, not much work actually. At least not if you have planetdance. On astro.com you have to simply cast the davison as a natal chart (you know the date of the Davison after all).

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posted March 03, 2016 03:41 PM            

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BTW Blashke wrote he does not consider a Davison planet unaspected (even if no aspects), if that planet is on the direct near or far midpoint of two other planets.

Here in this Davison we find

Sun conjunct Mars/Saturn 0°52
Sun conjunct Venus/Saturn 0°19
(Sun conjunct Moon/Lilith 1°02)

Moon conjunct Sun/Saturn 0°10

He said to consider those planets participating in such a midpoint picture as in mutual aspect. Of course well couldn´t it have been some nice midpoints with Jupiter?

Still I find it interesting how the Venus-Saturn-square which is part of the pretty dominating T-square is connected to the Sun and Moon through midpoint pictures (of course in terms of the Sun it is questionable if it was unaspected anyway, as it has two very close semisquares to Venus and Saturn, hence the midpoint picture. And Moon is angular and in domicile, so pretty strong on her own already. plus they have parallels, Sun is parallel Jupiter and DESC. Moon is parallel Saturn and IC.)

Anyway as I said not the easiest Davison there could be (though I noticed that Davisons seem to most of the time look a bit more complicated, heavy-going than the respective composite, for some reason)

I know this is not even a Marks chart yet, but I thought it would be advisable to start with the actual relationshipchart. lol

EDIT
Oh and forgot to mention but Moon is involved in a 5th harmonic pattern with Mars and Neptune.

posted March 03, 2016 04:54 PM            

Davison progressed for 1st meeting:

Moon conjunct NN exact in the 10th
Sun trine Moon
Mars conjunct Jupiter in the 9th
Venus trine Mars
Venus conjunct Pluto exact in the 5th (they are already conjunct in natal Davison, but there is a house change)
Mars trine Pluto

All within 1º or exact as mentioned.

Moon of prDavison conjuncts natal Davison NN now too. Interesting.

His Natal NN conjuncts prDavison MC.

posted March 03, 2016 10:30 PM            

His Marks chart Sun conjunct my South Node 10 Pisces; my Marks chart Sun conjunct his North Node, 1 degree. Kind of interesting, and enough validation for me to be going forward with these charts (as well as a relief that we are in touch with furthering one another's life goals with this relationship... oh wait at least I am lol... he is all over my progressed Juno/MC/South Node conjunction.. sigh... makes sense though!)..

Sadly (but not surprisingly, at this juncture) his Marks chart with Davison features a prominent Sun square Uranus-Mars... but the midpoint pictures are really pretty

Saturn is sextile that Sun but it isn't enough. Not a strong Marks chart for him overall... unless you go into midpoint pictures but I'm not sure they override underaspected and stressed planets. Venus is on the IC though and trine the North Node, square Jupiter and novile Saturn. Could be worse...

But ohh haha.. yeesh. His Marks Sun is square Mars/Neptune AND chiron; at the midpoint. So that's not extra pretty! It makes sense though. It's turning out to be a very tumultuous learning experience of a relationship, and really giving our egos the go around.

My Marks chart with him is equally depressing/accurate (sigh) at first glance although again with very strong/promising midpoint pictures and Sun on the MC, which is auspicious i think... chart ruler Mercury conjunct Mars and quincunx Saturn puts the ball in his court. Moon opposite Pluto shows my helpless obsession with him. I've always been just crazy about him i can't seem to help it.

The ascendant in my Marks is at 29 Virgo and descendant is conjuct vertex. 29 Pisces puts his natal Moon and my Mars on the descendant. His natal Sun cusp of the 8th conjunct Jupiter. Venus in my Marks chart conjunct his Ascendant/opposite my Sun/Moon mp within 2 degrees. North Node in my Marks chart is 2 degrees from his Sun/Moon mp. I dunno i know it's far fetched and he advises not to do further comparisons but i can't help it evidently... heh.

His Marks chart ruler is the Moon which is binovile Venus, tightly novile Saturn, tight septile Pluto and 6 degrees conjuct Neptune. Could be worse...

I'm not sure how to pull up an accurate Davison on astro such that I can use it in the box. I thought i had done so based on the time/day it gave but the angles were wrong according to solarfire...

posted March 03, 2016 10:56 PM            

A sampler from his Marks chart with a few solarfire interps for fun:

Saturn = Moon / Venus +0°19' d
Your feelings of passion and love are held back or restricted. You might feel inhibited when expressing your artistic and creative tendencies.

Pluto = Mercury / Neptune -0°18' d
Your subconscious mind is a powerhouse. You might experience extreme visions and perceptions that need to handled carefully without creating personal crisis.

Venus = Ascendant / Vertex -0°24' d
No text available for this topic.

Venus = Juno / Sedna +0°36'
No text available for this topic.

Jupiter = Juno / Sedna +0°02' d
No text available for this topic.

Moon = Sun / Venus +0°04'

Moon = Jupiter / Uranus -0°17' d
You have a positive outlook and are full of optimism. You express your feelings and emotions joyously and independently. Your natural intuitive nature serves you well as does your good sense and forethought.

Moon = Mars / Jupiter -0°27' d
Your feelings and intuition help you to make fortunate and lucky decisions. Your family life is successful and you find that your emotional nature gives you the capability to cope with most situations directly and honestly. You might have children.

Venus = Uranus / Ascendant -0°41' d
You can make unique and beautiful arrangements of your surroundings as your affections and feelings are influenced by your environment. You like to communicate your feelings and love to fall in love with someone exciting and unusual.

Midheaven = North Node / Ascendant -0°37'
You want to link your aspirations and life directions with a group or community because you find you share the same objectives. Close cooperation with others is important to you.

Sun = Moon / North Node +0°31' d
You are drawn towards making associations and alliances with others in order to create harmony in your life. Making soul links and developing mutual relationships are important for you.

North Node = Jupiter / Pluto +0°22' d
You can relate your beliefs to the masses, and might feel pulled towards taking a leadership position, like in politics. Your contacts and associations bring success and influence.

North Node = Moon / Saturn +0°27' d
You might find that the people you get stimulated by and want to make contact with are no help on your life’s path. This could result in a tendency to shun the people who are useful to you.

Mercury = Jupiter / Pluto +0°35'
Your style of speech and speaking influences others. You make a good public speaker and communicator. You would do well in advertising and promotions.

Mercury = Moon / Saturn +0°40'
You are thoughtful and ponderous and the process of thinking can be laborious. You’re probably a grumbler and come across as instinctively authoritative when communicating.

Juno = Ceres / North Node -0°00'
No text available for this topic.

Juno = Venus / Ascendant +0°29' d
No text available for this topic.

Vesta = Venus / Ascendant -0°29' d
No text available for this topic.

Venus = Jupiter / Neptune -1°40'
You get inspired by love and the act of love. You dream and have love fantasies. You can lose yourself having a good time and love to socialise. You are optimistic and love creative, with poems, art or music.

Venus = Mars / Ascendant -0°51' d
Your relationships can be somewhat of a battleground, and you probably enjoy letting loose on your partner. You need to express your passion and desires within relationships and quarrelling and disputes are probably necessary.

Jupiter = Uranus / Ascendant -1°16'
You cooperate with others well at work and adapt to your surroundings successfully. Your partnerships tend to happy and successful and you like to make connections where you can show joy and happiness.

Jupiter = Mars / Ascendant -1°26'
You reach successful results through cooperation and teamwork. You often find you share the same objectives with others that lead to beneficial outcomes for all. You make happy relationships and partnerships.

Pluto = Moon / Sun +1°10' d
You have a powerful drive to regenerate the mind and soul repeatedly through purges. A compulsive one-track mind can lead to identity problems. You have immense willpower and emotional force but you need to clear out inner conflicts first. 

aaand maybe my fave (cue Moon opposition Pluto..):

Pluto = Venus / North Node +1°45'
You might have a fanatical and lifelong love relationship that was destined to happen. You experience it with great depth and intensity.

posted March 03, 2016 10:59 PM            

Saturn = Moon / Midheaven -1°47'
Your soul may have tasks and lessons to learn in this life about separation and bereavement. You might find when you make connections to loving people your resulting relationship is interrupted or held back.

Also...

Moon = Jupiter / Uranus -0°17' d
You have a positive outlook and are full of optimism. You express your feelings and emotions joyously and independently. Your natural intuitive nature serves you well as does your good sense and forethought.

Moon = Mars / Jupiter -0°27' d
Your feelings and intuition help you to make fortunate and lucky decisions. Your family life is successful and you find that your emotional nature gives you the capability to cope with most situations directly and honestly. You might have children.

posted March 03, 2016 11:15 PM            

Neptune = Mercury / Uranus -1°09'
You get easily inspired and experience revelations or visions. Developing your extra-sensory perception is a good idea. You can understand mysteries and intangible things that go beyond reality. Avoid nervousness and translate your inspirations carefully.

((The advice to carefully translate my inspirations and avoid nervousness is very helpful... if a far-fetched directive ))

Neptune = Mercury / Midheaven +1°14' d
You are contemplative and meditative on the vastness of your aim and objectives in life. You can be easily impressionable in your life direction and might get disappointed or suffer failures due to over-estimation of your capabilities.

North Node = Mercury / Midheaven +0°00'
You are stimulated to find people who share the same interests as you. Combining your aim and objectives with others gives you growth.

North Node = Juno / Sedna -0°05' d
No text available for this topic.

(There's Juno/Sedna again!!!!!)

North Node = Ceres / Hygeia +0°05' d
No text available for this topic.

North Node = Moon / Juno -0°11' d
No text available for this topic.

North Node = Sun / Mercury +0°16'
You come across as sociable and communicative, with a lot of pleasure gained from talking. You are recognised for your exchange of ideas and ability to make connections.

North Node = Mars / Uranus -0°33' d

Ok I'm leaving off with the interps cause I feel like it takes up too much room (a demon I'm working with right now is feeling like I'm takin up too much room... working on it!!! ok never mind i'll keep sharing them )

Mercury = Jupiter / North Node -0°30'
You are a good communicator and are drawn to pull groups together to share ideas and knowledge. You make a good traveller and can find your destiny in foreign lands. You liaise well with contacts and associations and share your successes.

((That's you guys!! Lol..))

Mercury = Pluto / Ascendant +1°36'
You have an ability to dominate other people’s minds; you make a good hypnotist and influential communicator. You like to use words of power.

((Llloook into my glaaasses!!))

Moon = Venus / North Node +0°48' d
You express your feelings and emotions openly because you want to create a peaceable and harmonious understanding between everybody you connect with.

((Very much so.))

Moon = Saturn / Ascendant -1°25' d
Your moods fluctuate according to the environment you are in leading you to feelings of depression and melancholy. Your moody nature and disagreeableness is best solved by spending time on your own when necessary.

((YESSS need that alone time. I don't get enough of it))

Sedna = Venus / North Node +0°34' d
No text available for this topic.

Venus = Pluto / Hygeia -0°12'
No text available for this topic.

Venus = Moon / Mercury +0°22' d
You are able to describe the feeling of love and the sense of beauty because you have a feeling for creativity. You would make a good art critic or writer.

Venus = Mercury / Sedna +0°29' d
No text available for this topic.

Venus = Mercury / Pluto -0°46'
You are an unusual and influential artist or creative person who uses a specialised process. Your love life could be intense and your choice of partner could lead you to many highs and lows.

Venus = Moon / Hygeia +0°56' d
No text available for this topic.

Venus = Mars / Pluto +1°02'
Your passions are intense and you might get obsessed over love or attraction. Try to avoid using a forceful manner in your relationships.

(Check, check, check)

Saturn = Venus / Uranus +1°43'
You probably enjoy a form of eccentric discipline in your sex life and attempt to balance control and stress together in your relationships that needs some form of release. You have unique inhibitions that can leave you feeling quite estranged and separated from others.

((Unique inhibitions! It's so true.))

Saturn = Moon / Mars -1°54' d
You might find your desires are unsatisfied and that your passion is controlled and measured. You might have an urge to separate yourself from others.

((Maybe... I might.))

Chiron = Vesta / Ceres -0°12'
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Saturn / Ceres -0°13' d
No text available for this topic.

((We have Saturn square Ceres in composite...))

Chiron = Saturn / Midheaven +0°16'
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Vesta / Midheaven +0°17' d
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Sun / Saturn +0°32'
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Sun / Vesta +0°33' d
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Juno / North Node -0°48'
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Astraea / North Node -1°09' d
No text available for this topic.

Chiron = Sun / Venus -1°31' d
No text available for this topic.

Uranus = Venus / Neptune +0°18'
You have a unique and eccentric approach to love, that can be easily influenced by others or your environment. You might experience sudden urges and impulses to express love that can end in disappointment and separation. You can have strange inclinations and attractions.

Uranus = Saturn / Midheaven -1°22'
You approach your life direction with a highly-strung and edgy emotional edge. You make great efforts to reach your objectives and can be known for your surprising and hair trigger reactions.

Vertex = Ceres / Midheaven +0°05' d
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Sun / Ceres +0°21' d
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Sun / Midheaven +0°51'
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Mercury / Venus +1°04'
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Neptune / Chiron +1°06' d
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Jupiter / Astraea +1°13'
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Sun / Uranus -1°33' d
No text available for this topic.

Vertex = Jupiter / Juno +1°33' d
No text available for this topic.

Sun = Uranus / Neptune +0°48' d
You are likely to have a sensitive body and feel impressions strongly. You might have problems with your vitality and be easily affected by illness.

Sun = Ceres / Midheaven -1°01'
No text available for this topic.

Sun = Venus / Mars +1°47' d
You have a strong physical expression of love and attraction and you shine best when in a relationship. You clearly define the creative process and it’s likely you will have children.

((Now ain't that contradictory? ))

Anyway...

WHaaatever. Thanks for indulging my ruminations

The progressed Davison midpoints are eeeven nicer. They are nice. I like them.

posted March 03, 2016 11:55 PM            

Disclaimer: I'm pretty sure the ascendant is incorrect here. Solarfire thinks it's at 19 Virgo.

Notice the grand cross between Sun, Chiron, Ceres and Saturn? Also Mars-Juno kinda in there?

That falls on his Jupiter/Uranus (Saturn conjunct them), near his Asc/Desc, and my Nodes (Sun/Ceres conjunct them).

posted March 04, 2016 12:12 AM            

Let's look at my rejected baby .. not the least either, I'm surprised; all planets connected through pretty strong conjuntions and oppositions, except for the Moon.

So the Composite of his natal and our Davison (= Marks);

(No idea if it makes sense to compare but our Davison Venus for example is at 29'02 Taurus, and so there are waaay more hits to natal/davison/other's marks'- the marks nodes seem to play a very prominent role in it)

posted March 04, 2016 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
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So the Composite of his natal and our Davison (= Marks);

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I wouldn`t mix up composites and Davison charts though.

posted March 04, 2016 01:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
[B]here is the marks chart for my baby Aries and our Davison.
The MC/IC is exact on our synastrical Sun-Venus opposition , exact degree. And Pluto is right there on the MC. I know it's a potentially life changing relationship for both.Also, tight Sun-Moon opposition and a Venus-Mars-Juno conjunction on the IC.

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that is what I call an eventful Davison!

also the triggering of the natal - very important and descriptive.