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Topic: Most common Aspects in Longest-Marriages
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Tofu addict
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posted January 03, 2012 12:36 PM
  
Indeed these saturn aspects don't guarantee happiness, i have a couple of charts of people, married a long time, 25 years or more, and they are not happy, but the saturn makes them stick with it i think, for better and worse, in one couple, the man is treated so badly by his wife, appalling, but he won't leave , sense of duty, there you go...IP: Logged |
Illusion21
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posted January 03, 2012 12:40 PM
Tofu addict LOL nice ID it made me actually laugh out loud My Vegan friend is an addict too  IP: Logged |
Tofu addict
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posted January 03, 2012 12:42 PM
Cool, i am off now to my dinner, and guess what i am cooking????IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted January 03, 2012 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Illusion21:
I read somewhere that Moon conjunct Saturn is an important aspect in synastry of long term relationships and marriages
Re: Saturn: My Husband and I have: Saturn in the Seventh House
Sun Trine Saturn
Moon Trine Saturn
Venus Trine Saturn
Mars Sextile Saturn It's only been two years so far, though ;-) IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted January 03, 2012 02:03 PM
I keep hearing about Moon/Saturn conjunction and I cringe whenever I see it in synastry now (for myself), as I've had it several times and it always ended very badly. Saturn in hard aspect to an Aries moon can be downright disastrous; we aren't cut out for this aspect, I think. It is way too repressive for a highly responsive moon and can either crush its spirit or make it even more explosive and volatile. Another moon might benefit from it and not mind, or even feel grounded by it, but not so much fire moons probably. You will rarely have an Aries moon stay with someone who is going all Saturnine on them directly like that, it would be the equivalent of a cobra and a mongoose having it out. This is why I think some aspects which are so-called indicative of long-term marriage might not work with certain charts. IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted January 03, 2012 02:08 PM
That's an interesting point, MVM.IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 06:43 PM
Wow, a lot has been going on since I left.
Thank you for your comments mintgirl123, MyVirgoMask, racole12, Josie, ElizabethO, & amelia28
To answer some your questions - the orbs vary some were exact, while others went up to 7/8 degs. - Hi Mockingbird, that's a good idea but no I haven't thought about it. I only looked at the link posted and noticed that the list went between 90-80yrs. - That's another interesting thought MyVirgoMask, anything could have happened to these couples while they were married; abuse, cheating, abandonment..who knows :] afterall, just because they were married for so long doesn't mean they were soulmates. - Hi lilithpluto, I honestly didn't look much at the composite charts. However I did look at some a long time ago from family and friends that's been in long relationships, and Mars-Jupiter was pretty common.. coincidence? idk. @Lonake - the way you just go on and on about things that shouldn't take that much of your energy just makes me laugh XD! So go ahead and continue to waste your time talking about a topic that doesn't even interests you. It's amusing ^^ Btw hope everybody had a good New Year! Even you Lonake IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted January 03, 2012 07:01 PM
Many couples born in the 1880-1920 age group.. stayed married throughout their lives. They went through two world wars together and many other things I'm sure(I really think traumatic experiences suffered together can make people stick together like glue).
Plus - it was the most culturally & socially acceptable thing for marriage to be 'till death' not 'till divorce'. In my opinion - the reason these marriages are the 'longest' on record - is that these people managed to live long lives!
I'm sure many other marriages of individuals in the same age group - also lasted until one of the partners died.. but the death probably occurred sooner than 82 years into the marriage. I would be more curious about the longest marriages of people born in the 50s + age groups. That's not to say - the aspects you posted are irrelevant. I mean - I've always thought Saturn aspects were very important in both synastry and composite... and I also think Uranus is more so, a planet of *friendship* rather than erratic break-ups. However, because of the generational differences & the fact that this is a small sample - I don't think the findings are relevant as a 'make or break' of a potential relationship.
I think this was what Lonake was getting at ^. Sometimes it is annoying when people read particular research or particular interpretations and they take that to be gospel - and they either elevate their relationship to 'perfection' status... or - alternatively - come to think that their relationship is *doomed*. I know you guys are not doing that here!
But I also know many who DO take these things very very seriously (rather than with a grain of salt)... and maybe wherein lies Lonake's frustration with the topic. IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 07:08 PM
Betty Boop - I understand what Lonake's point of view was. However, like I mentioned before the link is not posted there to look PRETTY, by all means if anyone does not feel like this is accurate enough to be a good theory they have the resources. I'm not trying to con anyone into thinking these are the ideal aspects to a marriage. Unlike you, Lonake did not look at the link nor seems to be interested in studying this topic or finding out for themselves what the accurate assumptions are. If they want to debate on this so seriously than go FULL FORCE. Quit relying on me to do more research like a baby and do it yourself. Because I felt comfortable with the amount of charts I looked at and I was honest about it. I'm not a teacher and this isn't a classroom.Everyone has there own ideas of why these couples were married for so long and that's fine. Do you see me saying otherwise? No. but when you act rude and waste your energy on something you can research and prove too yourself is a waste IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted January 03, 2012 07:28 PM
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The link is not posted there to look PRETTY, by all means if anyone does not feel like this is accurate enough to be a good theory they have the resources. I'm not trying to con anyone into thinking these are the ideal aspects to a marriage.
I do realize that! IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
What if a relationship was not legally binding but it was looong n lasted 50yrs? 
I feel like there's a rope around my neck when I think of staying w.someone for 50 yrs. I don't know what kind of person could do that. Natals could be looked at too for this I guess.
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Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Illusion21:
I read somewhere that Moon conjunct Saturn is an important aspect in synastry of long term relationships and marriages
I read somewhere that it's an indicator for emotional abuse.
You can read into it anything you want, doesn't mean it's gonna play out that way.
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Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
Indeed these saturn aspects don't guarantee happiness, i have a couple of charts of people, married a long time, 25 years or more, and they are not happy, but the saturn makes them stick with it i think, for better and worse, in one couple, the man is treated so badly by his wife, appalling, but he won't leave , sense of duty, there you go...
Look at his natal too.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
@Lonake - the way you just go on and on about things that shouldn't take that much of your energy just makes me laugh XD! So go ahead and continue to waste your time talking about a topic that doesn't even interests you. It's amusing ^^
The way you're so lazy & slapdash w.your so-called research just makes me  too. Hilarity.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Unlike you, Lonake did not look at the link nor seems to be interested in studying this topic or finding out for themselves what the accurate assumptions are.
You sure didn't. And you were the one to bring it up. What a funny thought."Quit relying on me to do more research like a baby and do it yourself."
--Completely at this one!!! You didn't do proper research to begin with! What a joke. "Because I felt comfortable with the amount of charts I looked at and I was honest about it."
--This was your flaw. Among others, but this was the main one. "I'm not a teacher and this isn't a classroom."
--No argument on this point, no one's asking you to be one. "No. but when you act rude and waste your energy on something you can research and prove too yourself is a waste"
--Like I said, you could've done the research but you chose not to. IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 08:57 PM
@Lonake - Yes your right because I should devote my life to something that might not even apply to me. It's not like I have a job, family, and a Real life except from the internet :/
Lonake, grow up already. If you don't agree with others get the job done yourself. DUHIP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
"Quit relying on me to do more research like a baby and do it yourself."
--Completely at this one!!! You didn't do [b]proper researcH to begin with! What a joke."Because I felt comfortable with the amount of charts I looked at and I was honest about it."
--This was your flaw. Among others, but this was the main one. "I'm not a teacher and this isn't a classroom."
--No argument on this point, no one's asking you to be one. "No. but when you act rude and waste your energy on something you can research and prove too yourself is a waste"
--Like I said, you could've done the research but you chose not to.
I'm sorry did you do ANYTHING that involved this topic? I know i at least posted the link and gave some invite on what others might be interested in researching. I'll say it again, DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF IF YOU CARE SO MUCH! IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
@Lonake - Yes your right because I should devote my life to something that might not even apply to me. It's not like I have a job, family, and a Real life except from the internet :/ grow up already
Don't take it personal, or anything.
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Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Don't take it personal, or anything.
whatever.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I'm sorry did you do ANYTHING that involved this topic? I know i at least posted the link and gave some invite on what others might be interested in researching. I'll say it again, DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF IF YOU CARE SO MUCH!
Well, I can see you still haven't listened cos you're getting defensive. I was saying simple things, like you can't include Moon/Saturn cos you don't know the time, but who cares right? Cos putting effort into it doesn't matter.
I think I understand you now.
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Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 09:13 PM
LOL love how your trying to seem civil I was just talking about the Moon-Saturn thing
RRIIGGHHT IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 09:20 PM
^ Seem? LOL. Hardly. I couldn't care less for how I seem.BTW I love that that aspect is still up there.
It has no merit, but yet. Moonfish thinks tob has no say in the matter. IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted January 03, 2012 09:25 PM
Your certainly hard-headed, I know that for sure. I said that I've personally experienced Moon-Saturn. Don't like it? OOH WELLIP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 09:31 PM
^ Well call me a stickler for tob and large research batches, cos that is DA TRUTH IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted January 03, 2012 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Apologies for a non-astrological post but I'm wondering if the data you posted takes into account factors such as culture and religion? If not then I would discount this study.
Moonfish, just wanted to pop into apologize for my last sentence in the quote, I take it back. Thanks for sharing your findings! IP: Logged |
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