posted January 04, 2012 12:37 AM            

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Well supposedly you were pretty nice to everyone except for me.

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I'm sure she'll be nice to you on a different topic where she doesn't so vehemently disagree!

& It wasn't a personal attack.

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going through some tough times in your life

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I wouldn't go that far.. Maybe it's PMS. Who cares? I genuinely don't.

I don't think she has done anything unusual - since many posters on here have at times been more passionate or aggressive.. It happens. As she said herself - she is human.

I agree that MoonFish didn't deserve the snappy 'tone'.. even though what Lonake is actually saying - about the Moon aspects in the absence of TOB & the small sample - is correct.

But it is a free world and people can do their research as they please, whenever they have the time! It would take much longer to carry out very in depth meticulous research and if MoonFish cannot be bothered it's her prerogative. I know I couldn't be bothered either.

And Lonake - Most people would realize that the sample is small & that she didn't have the TOB - so it's no harm done.. because I doubt anyone will read this and think "OMG having a Moon/Saturn aspect - must the only possible way to get married". If they are that naive - it's their own problem.

As I said... I'm sure it'll blow over and you guys will talk normally on other threads in the future.

posted January 04, 2012 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I wouldn't go that far.. Maybe it's PMS. Who cares? I genuinely don't.

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"because I doubt anyone will read this and think "OMG having a Moon/Saturn aspect - must the only possible way to get married". If they are that naive - it's their own problem."
--It happens, but I agree ultimately their problem.

posted January 04, 2012 12:54 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
It may be that Lonake's choice not to use many punctuation signs is intimidating
Mint,you are Virgo,right

Come on flakes,let's be nice and ditch the HS Imagine LL going as high school...and instead of this lovely purplish pink we have bloody red...

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LOL think we all need a *group hug* aye?
I swear, you know what really gets on my nerves? When people don't use apostrophes and say "your" instead of "you're." It's like *eye twitch mania* haha.

posted January 04, 2012 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
LOL think we all need a *group hug* aye?
I swear, you know what really gets on my nerves? When people don't use apostrophes and say "your" instead of "you're." It's like *eye twitch mania* haha.

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posted January 04, 2012 01:15 AM            

Thanks to everyone that appericated this thread, and I'm glad I was of some help to you :] That's all I wanted

posted January 05, 2012 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:
I keep hearing about Moon/Saturn conjunction and I cringe whenever I see it in synastry now (for myself), as I've had it several times and it always ended very badly.

Saturn in hard aspect to an Aries moon can be downright disastrous; we aren't cut out for this aspect, I think. It is way too repressive for a highly responsive moon and can either crush its spirit or make it even more explosive and volatile. Another moon might benefit from it and not mind, or even feel grounded by it, but not so much fire moons probably. You will rarely have an Aries moon stay with someone who is going all Saturnine on them directly like that, it would be the equivalent of a cobra and a mongoose having it out.

This is why I think some aspects which are so-called indicative of long-term marriage might not work with certain charts.

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posted January 05, 2012 09:36 AM              

But having said that I do need Saturn aspects to Sun or Moon, and I seem to even attract squares. Not easy, but I am not easy either.

posted January 05, 2012 09:38 AM              

A Venus-Uranus synastry aspect can be delicious. Sizzling, electrical, unpredictable, thrilling, exciting. That seems to be true in general.

But what if one of the people involved has Scorpio-Venus conjunct Saturn and Pluto and trine a Cancer-Moon, with no strong URanus or Aquarius-placements?

posted January 05, 2012 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
very interesting point. i suspect that moon in gemini is somehow structured by saturn. according to Morin, mercury in aspect to saturn is ok. following the logic of the ruler of the moon mercury, it may be binding or ok for a gemini moon, but not for an arian (mars ruler) moon. does it make sense?

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posted January 05, 2012 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:

Yes, it makes a lot of sense actually! But who is Morin?

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posted January 05, 2012 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Long lasting marriages often have synastric aspects that repeat aspects that are natally present, and not always the eay ones.

A Venus-Uranus synastry aspect can be delicious. Sizzling, electrical, unpredictable, thrilling, exciting. That seems to be true in general.

But what if one of the people involved has Scorpio-Venus conjunct Saturn and Pluto and trine a Cancer-Moon, with no strong URanus or Aquarius-placements?

They would still feel the thrilling excitement of Venus-Uranus-synastrym, but would they like it?

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I don't know how well I can answer this since even though I have a Scorpio Venus, I also have a Moon/Uranus opposition and it plays out very strongly in my relationship - both of my longest-term relationships have had a Venus/Uranus conjunction (I've been Venus both times), and it's never taken away from the commitment levels - but I think it's also important to point out too that both those relationships, while having their Uranus aspecting, also have had their Saturns doing so as well - and in hard aspects. Both of them had their Saturn square my moon! So I don't know, maybe that balances it out? Incidentally, both guys also had/have strong Uranian tendencies.

posted January 05, 2012 12:32 PM              

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Originally posted by MyVirgoMask:

I would probably think that if someone didn't have Uranian traits, then they would NOT be digging those aspects, esp if there's not Saturn to 'balance it out'. But even if there were...Uranus hard aspects are like jolts of lightening, striking when you least expect them! Delicious during courtship! Scary during the transitional stage into commited relationship, because you never know what you're going to get lol

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Exactly.

posted January 05, 2012 09:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Lonake, I'm shocked that you are being so rude.

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posted May 10, 2016 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For a Moon-Saturn aspect in synastry it helps if the natals have something like Moon or Sun in Capricorn, or Saturn in strong aspect to Sun or Moon or even Saturn in 4th house. (though it still depends how this aspect is intervowen into the natal).

But having said that I do need Saturn aspects to Sun or Moon, and I seem to even attract squares. Not easy, but I am not easy either.

I contribute that to the fact that Saturn is exactly quinkunx my Moon, and though the quinkunx is not considered a major aspect, as the only aspect my MOon has it certainly feels like it is in my case.
My Venus in Capricorn probably has a say in this, too.

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Nice to read this. I have Moon and Saturn in Capricorn and my Saturn is square my partner's Moon...

His Moon is is Capricorn in draconic and it's really interesting as you get to know people to see the "lining of the coat" which is the draconic at play. He may have Moon in Aries but the Capricorn is definitely operative; I feel it, I see it. It's almost more apparent at times than the Moon in Aries... My Moon is also in Capricorn draconically (conjunct his draconic Sun, also Cap) so sadly I can't compare/contrast with myself lol... (although I can see my Sagittarius draconic Sun in myself ... it's also there by progression though).

But anyway he has the Saturn-Moon quincunx natally also--and he is NOT easy either! I love him... but/and ... My hands are full. He is a ball of quincunx. But anyway, it's nice to read this... makes me feel a bit better/validated. I'm wary of applying too much pressure to his Moon with my Saturn but I'm realizing he kinda likes it. To an extent! He definitely has issues with authority though--complex mother-father dynamic in his early home life. The quincunx for him... and this may be expressed elsewhere... but he doesn't like doing house work... actually i think he expressed his belief that men CAN'T cook to me once. Or dont. It was a passing comment and I didn't find a way to respond but..m. That is not true lol... and he is mostly a realist. There he fails at grasping reality.

I recently read that Saturn is only workable through DOING. As a function of its 10th house rulership, you can't think away your Saturn issues, or process them in your head and resolve them. You have to work out that karma in real time, in tangible real world ways. Pay those bills. Get off the couch and cook something. You know? Be responsible--actually. Earthily.

So the Saturn-Moon quincunx for him speaks to me of this difficulty reconciling the lunar nurturing and the practical acting--as well as the authoritarian Father role being at odds with the nurturing role.. Last night when I was encouraging him to read a book to my daughter when he didn't feel like it he acted very disconsolate about having to do something he didn't want to do even though he had told her he would... aanyway don't quote! He's got mother-father dynamic issues, authority issues around nurturing. The Moon-Saturn quincunx can be very very complex.

His draconic Moon is conjunct my natal Saturn and my natal Moon widely... gives my Saturn a lot of scope and comfort. I think i do that for him too, his Saturn on my ascendant.