posted August 25, 2018 01:45 PM            

Nevertheless for now, he is in lala land. And that is fine for him. And perhaps taking this time to grieve for your relationship is best. I am very sorry to read how terribly things ended.

I wish you a steady recovery from all this.

posted August 26, 2018 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Compo Sun/Moon/Venus conjunction and look at the exactnes .. that is such a strrrrong connection!

@ ow well ofcourse, her Tob isn't there so that means the compo Moon might be off by 3 degrees on both sides (which is when using 12 noon for hers) but very likely less than that, but even then wauw!

They're even heading for a prog compo New Moon too... THE start marker for any new relationship or at least a huge change in relating (marrying, living together.. ? I'm afraid nothing can stop this from progressing further and I haven't even looked at their prog syna)

@ Wt.. they're heading for an exact repetition of their regular compo Sun/Moon/Venus conjunction in the progressed compo! (pretty flabbergastered here - a no-doubt case for me so I would really appreciate updates on this thread if emotionally possible ofcourse)

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Could you elaborate this a bit?

posted August 26, 2018 05:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am very suspicious of love affairs that start with a rush. To me it seems more like the love is more about passion than it is about substance.

Nevertheless for now, he is in lala land. And that is fine for him. And perhaps taking this time to grieve for your relationship is best. I am very sorry to read how terribly things ended.

I wish you a steady recovery from all this.

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posted August 26, 2018 09:10 AM            

Their Synastry looks less tense. All her planets mostly fall in his 4th, that’s very intimate place in the chart, he probably feels so comfortable and like he’s known her forever. Her moon matching his 5th symbolism and her mercury there is also stimulating his romantic feelings! Yours was very dynamic and had a lot of energy and excitement and probably had its ups and downs with that big ol grand cross and squares, but it can get tiring or overwhelming at times because squares are inherently incompatible after all even though these types of closed pattern formations are binding and initially give lots of chemistry.
You had some strong placements with him forsure. Your venus conjunct his DSC and you have mars in your 1st and he’s an Aries DSC so he was very attracted to you. You were someone he wanted to partner with and probably even wanted to marry you at one point.
You had pretty good Synastry, only thing is your composite was a bit lacking. And composite shows the long term potential, sort of the final say. It seems your relationship with him wasn’t meant to last.

posted August 26, 2018 09:29 AM            

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Three weeks ago, I all of a sudden get news that hes fallen in love with someone else despite the fact that him and I have been an unit for our whole relationship

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This is really horrible. There is no excuse for his behaviour.
Because he basically led you on and acted like everything was fine, while he obviously met someone else.
And I have no idea what in the world he was going on about, wanting an "open" relationship after he told you he was in love with her :\

He is really just bad news. There is no excuse for someone who chooses to act this way and hurt another person. It's not about his chart or your synastry. It's just serously bad behaviour on his part, and extremely immature.

I am so sorry you wasted 3 years of your life with someone who is clearly not worth it.
But at least, on the bright side - you got to see his true colours before things got even more serious, like marriage and children.

posted August 26, 2018 12:17 PM            

I will say that this is the summer of intense, quick, and tumultuous relationships. People who got engaged quickly this summer: Ariana Grande + Pete Davidson (he had left his long time girlfriend, Cassie, and started dating and got engaged to Ariana two weeks later), Justin Bieber + Hailey Baldinwin, and Priyanka Chopra + Nick Jonas. This has all been occuring under Mars retrograde, as well under Uranus newly into Taurus.

I personally doubt any of these couples will last, and that includes your ex and his new girlfriend. Their composite is going to be going through some wild transits.

Uranus in Taurus will be inconjunct their Saggitarius Sun/Moon in the middle of 2019. That'll breed instability on some level. Uranus will also be opposite their Pluto/Mars in 2020.

Their composite Saturn will experience their Saturn return in 2019.

Jupiter will be going over their big Sagittarius stellium, so I can imagine this will multiply their partying habits.

Anyway it's not healthy to analyze their charts anymore, but you know this. The best revenge you can get on someone is a life well lived and indifference. If you really want to mess with him, I would mail a letter to his house saying "(Name) I just wanted to say goodbye formally for my own sense of closure. I'll always remember the memories we shared, but now this chapter has closed. Goodbye. Signed (your name)"

This will really mess with his ego, and it's like you just broke up with him. I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly loses interest in his new chick knowing that he doesn't have you pining over him on the backburner. But you always have to prepare for the possibility that this won't happen, and he was a complete assh*le to you as the relationship ended. People who won't treat you tenderly with the respect you deserve don't deserve your dedication.

posted August 26, 2018 01:07 PM            

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Ouch, that composite actually looks amazing.
It’s no wonder he’s so smitten, that is intense bonding and compatibility! That big sun, moon, mercury, venus stellium... that’s a love stellium on steroids with the moon there too, and it’s no afflicted this is sooooo rare!
they even have sun conjunct moon repeated in the Davison. This really is showing true, genuine compatibility. Mixing of the masculine and feminine, the yin to each other’s yang.
Sun conjunct moon in comp and Davison means these two will be together all the time, like a unit. Inseparable, this is the type of aspect that makes couples think of themselves of “we” and “us” instead of you and me. It really shows a blending, merging of identities. They feel as one. Usually makes people very protective of each other as well. Just harmony, it’s so easy.

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And in both they have Mars conjunct Pluto which I feel generates a lot of passion and very intense feelings which coupled with the love stellium conjunct moon is very powerful, the combination of those two things is why he is smitten.

She has a nice composite and Davison too with him, hence why they lasted 3 years. We shall see, I understand why he refuses to walk away from the new relationship, I would want to have that story play out even if it only lasts a few years.

posted August 27, 2018 03:27 AM            

You know, the prog (compo) Moon takes 27 years for a full ride around the clock. I have found the prog compo New Moon (so that also takes those years to arise again) a very clear indicator for the start of a relationship. But next to that and independently, the 2 prog compo aspects that I've also found to play a part at those starting blocks are the prog compo Sun-Venus conjunction and the prog compo Moon-Venus conjunction (and these are the very only 3 prog compo aspects that have ever stood out during the-start-of a new life together - they have them all!) Specifically for Sun-Venus to be a tight applying conjunction which makes the 2 a magnet for each other.

posted August 27, 2018 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
prog compo Sun-Venus conjunction and the prog compo Moon-Venus conjunction (and these are the very only 3 prog compo aspects that have ever stood out during the-start-of a new life together - they have them all!) Specifically for Sun-Venus to be a tight applying conjunction which makes the 2 a magnet for each other.

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With Uranus in the middle, though?

This description of traveling progressed planets is new to me, yet I can follow what you‘re saying clearly about a blessed trajectory. I recently noticed my Prog Venus Retrograde that started in 2014, for forty years.

posted August 28, 2018 10:13 AM            

Otherwise the 50% of marriages that are still making it into old age, would plumet to 0%.. since there are *always* other fish in the sea. Always.

It's just that some people are able to commit to another person - whereas others are not... or they are too immature to understand and value commitment.

posted September 01, 2018 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I disagree... We all make choices in life. The synastry or composite chart doesn't make choices on anyone's behalf.

Otherwise the 50% of marriages that are still making it into old age, would plumet to 0%.. since there are *always* other fish in the sea. Always.

It's just that some people are able to commit to another person - whereas others are not... or they are too immature to understand and value commitment.

I had a perfect composite with the brother of one of my close friends. I liked the guy, but I can't say I was that into him and I definitely wouldn't have left my bf for him.

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posted September 02, 2018 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
In their synastry, I don’t like how her Venus is unaspected and his makes a square to her Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. I think he’s caught up in a possible drug induced dream..

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posted September 02, 2018 12:08 PM            

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Vansio, thank you for being so clear, I totally get it.

You know, the prog (compo) Moon takes 27 years for a full ride around the clock. I have found the prog compo New Moon (so that also takes those years to arise again) a very clear indicator for the start of a relationship. But next to that and independently, the 2 prog compo aspects that I've also found to play a part at those starting blocks are the prog compo Sun-Venus conjunction and the prog compo Moon-Venus conjunction (and these are the very only 3 prog compo aspects that have ever stood out during the-start-of a new life together - they have them all!) Specifically for Sun-Venus to be a tight applying conjunction which makes the 2 a magnet for each other.

Their regular composite already has a tight Sun-Venus conjunction. And usually when 2 people meet in life at let's say age 20 then the prog compo Venus has Clearly moved ahead of the Sun (when having that Sun-Venus conj in regular compo) as Venus is the faster one of the two. But in their case.. NOT. We see that prog Venus there is even before the Sun. So I checked that out and the reason for it is that her pVenus is still in the shadow phase after a retro period (means moving with slow speed). And so to their huge advantage prog compo Venus is verrry slowly applying to the prog Sun (not separating further). And it will be exact in almost 20 years. This to me is a sign that they will have a long time together ahead of them in harmony. If it wasn't applying I would've had my doubts about their longevity. And then the prog compo Moon is currently applying to their prog compo Sun-Venus conjunction and even repeting what they already have in their regular compo; an extremely wonderful threesome so tight next to each other. I haven't seen such a powerful (start) case before, with even 20 years on the horizon (at the least).

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OP, sorry about what sounds like a very jarring experience. I experienced a sudden break up very much like tis that was very unexpected during my own Saturn return - it felt devastating at the time but it made me an a very resilient person in the end. You are so much better off. I hope you will see this soon.

mir, if this isn't strange to ask and if you have the time, could I ask you to take a look at the composite and synastry I posted in this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/008121.html I really loved the manner you mentioned certain things about progressed charts, which I know nothing about. I'd really appreciate your insight.

posted September 02, 2018 12:21 PM            

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Everyone knows us. Everyone is so sad to witness this. Everyone from his grandparents, parents, guy friends, colleagues, mutual couples have reached out to me trying to understand. He has ghosted everyone around him who is requesting some answer to him about his situation regarding this crisis of faith... instead posts Instagram declarations of his love for her to the public to see daily, flipping off me and any reality besides his newfound love as if there is nothing worth caring about but her. Narcissist. As an aside, the guy friends who have met this girl in those weeks leading up to the breakup have revealed to me that can't understand how he would leave someone like me for her.

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OP, what I'm going to say has pretty much nothing with astrology except that what I base my experience was also during a Saturn return -mine-. I think cases that resemble "ghosting" in committed relationships like this have an aspect of suicidal ideation, one way or another. I don't mean to alarm you or even say that the person you were involved in are going to harm themselves. Suicide can be in a few ways. Years after our very sudden and jarring break up in another country, my ex boyfriend explained his behaviour to me was, however inexcusable it was, a "wish to disappear and become someone else". He said that during this time he was so desperate to move outside of his skin, and his own dissatisfaction with himself, he was desperate to try anything. Your partner's aggressive, dead behind the eyes attitude reminds me so much of him then. It is a directionless anger at what they themselves feel they can't achieve or control. If they are also leading a hectic professional life and feel they are slipping away under pressure, pillars of this old life they're running away from will anger them in a senseless way. But you are not a worthless collection of memories he can avoid just like that - although his current behavior might make you feel like this is the case. You are made up by your own behaviour and values. By all means, stick to the higher road, but don't pressure yourself unnecessarily in the face of irrational behaviour or assume it will guarantee you better treatment. People are irrational and very emotional. And so are you. Allow yourself to express your anger and disappointment in any manner you see fit -that doesn't harm anyone or you, of course-. Allow yourself to mourn. This is paramount. Allow yourself to honor the end of this relationship as you know it. Do not bottle your feelings thinking he will snap back into it. We cannot control the outcome of other people's behaviour. Focus on yourself. You are important.

And do not assume others will be sucky like this one. You will be surprised by so many trustworthy people in the future. This experience does not set your value as a human being. You sound intelligent and responsive. Things will get better. Be kind to yourself and allow your loved ones to do the same.

Oh, and also, I would limit conversations about this with community. It might currently bring you comfort that they are not owning to this new relationship - but people are people. Do not expect them to keep their current level of outrage. Or expect their judgment to change the course of his actions. Sometimes people are also driven by need for gossip or information, and are willing to say a lot to hear private information. Sorry if I sound nutty - I discovered so many stupid gossip triangles behind my back after this debacle. Some people I thought had my back really didn't. Others I'm still friends to death. Separations like this are a social litmus paper. This experience will change you in a better way if you let it.

These are some of the things I picked up along the way as a result of my own experiences. I wish you the very very best. Be well.

posted September 02, 2018 01:11 PM            

You can also argue that there are people that need less in love and relationships and that it doesn't take a lot for them to feel happy in a relationship and those people tend to not want to get a divorce and feel content.

posted September 02, 2018 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am sorry but the 50% of people that do stay together are not necessarily happy, some are partially happy and some are not even partially happy and are straight up miserable. A lot of people stay married for financial reasons or bc getting divorced and then marrying someone else will eventually lead to a similar path down the line as the passion/excitement from the beginning starts to fade, a lot stay married bc of the kids.

You can also argue that there are people that need less in love and relationships and that it doesn't take a lot for them to feel happy in a relationship and those people tend to not want to get a divorce and feel content.

Marriage has its function and some benefits but the world likes to put it up in a huge pedestal and look at marriage through rose colored glasses. It is about emotional security and survival.

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Amen! I loved this comment sooo much!
This is ugly reality.
Add the people who are afraid to be with the ones they love because of their intense emotions amd the vulnerabulity they feel around them. I felt like I was the only one but there are so many others like me.

Others care about what their people (relatives, friends, co worker) will say sinve in some countries divorse is cinsidered shameful especially for the woman.

posted September 03, 2018 01:46 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
Care to elaborate what you see as an unexpected Venus? I don't follow. Is her Venus not trining his Moon? As what does it mean to have an unexpected Venus in synastry.

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posted September 09, 2018 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I disagree... We all make choices in life. The synastry or composite chart doesn't make choices on anyone's behalf.

Otherwise the 50% of marriages that are still making it into old age, would plumet to 0%.. since there are *always* other fish in the sea. Always.

It's just that some people are able to commit to another person - whereas others are not... or they are too immature to understand and value commitment.

I had a perfect composite with the brother of one of my close friends. I liked the guy, but I can't say I was that into him and I definitely wouldn't have left my bf for him.

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^This x 100.

@vansio, I am so, so sorry you are going through this. I saw the charts but I think this is one of those situations where it won't really help. I dunno that any comment I make about those charts would be at all helpful...

posted September 09, 2018 08:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
This is really horrible. There is no excuse for his behaviour.
Because he basically led you on and acted like everything was fine, while he obviously met someone else.
And I have no idea what in the world he was going on about, wanting an "open" relationship after he told you he was in love with her :\

He is really just bad news. There is no excuse for someone who chooses to act this way and hurt another person. It's not about his chart or your synastry. It's just serously bad behaviour on his part, and extremely immature.

I am so sorry you wasted 3 years of your life with someone who is clearly not worth it.
But at least, on the bright side - you got to see his true colours before things got even more serious, like marriage and children.

My heart goes out to you I'm positive you'll meet an amazing guy in the future and you'll look back on this one day happy that you dodged a bullet!

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