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cultstatus
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posted October 11, 2018 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Short version of events - I met this man a few years ago. Saw him at a bar, thought he was the most attractive human I'd ever laid eyes on. Spoke briefly, connected on social media but it didn't amount to anything.

I moved away from that city recently and then out of nowhere he added me on social media again. We started speaking intensely and have formed a deep connection/ as much as is possible without being physically together. We go through stages of blocking each other but we always come back together, saying we miss each other and picking up where we left off.

I can't shake this feeling that he is the one for me. I have had readers even predict this person and very exact details about him.

I just don't know, and i'm afraid to invest more and become attached so I keep shutting things down. I’m at a critical turning point in my life where I’m trying to launch a business and establish myself and I don’t really have the time to invest in a relationship right now. I know I’m risking losing someone important bur I know what I need to be focused on right now, it doesn’t negate my feelings for this person though. They’re intense.

Looking at the charts I'm most concerned about moon square neptune in synastry. I just don't know what is real. I worry it's all in my head.

Please tell me what you make of these charts? Is there potential for a solid relationship here? I feel very strongly toward him, a lot of emotion and attraction. He is my ideal partner.

Should I give this a chance? Do these charts look positive for a serious relationship? I am on the inside in the synastry.


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posted October 12, 2018 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 12, 2018 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also concerned about the lack of 7th house action

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posted October 12, 2018 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 12, 2018 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Venus is on you NN. You Venus is square his Mars, a lot. His Moon (time dependent) isn't aspected well.

Aside from the astrology, if you two are already blocking each other, and your time is preoccupied.. these aren't great foundations.

If he was the right one wouldn't he support? And also wouldn't be blocking each other.

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posted October 12, 2018 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it’s just consuming, almost overwhelming in a good way. But we have physical distance between us so it makes it difficult to really invest in rit ight now, along with the other stuff going on. It just feels like the timing is off. We always come back saying we miss each other, when we try to ignore it.

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posted October 12, 2018 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post Davison? Are both time of birth correct? Can you post synastry with bottom part so I can see degrees? Who is inside and who is outside?

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posted October 12, 2018 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I’ll post Davison and extra chart with degrees shortly.

Yes the TOBs are correct too x

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posted October 12, 2018 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the chart with degrees, I am on the inside.

I feel we have an incredibly strong psychic, spiritual and emotional connection.

Which Davison chart option should I use on Astro.com?

Corrected, Uncorrected, Spherical midpoint or reference place option?

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posted October 12, 2018 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I selected the first option, Davison corrected. This is the first time I've looked at a Davison chart, I just had a quite read and the common thought is that this represents how we relate/what actually goes down in the relationship, where as the composite is more how the relationship is perceived by others?

The first thing I see is Mercury square Neptune.

After my last long term relationship and having to experience Mercury square neptune exact I'm actually very concerned.

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posted October 12, 2018 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cultstatus:
Well it’s just consuming, almost overwhelming in a good way. But we have physical distance between us so it makes it difficult to really invest in rit ight now, along with the other stuff going on. It just feels like the timing is off. We always come back saying we miss each other, when we try to ignore it.

Yep.. I understand

And, hypatia238 is onto it too

I was going to say that the "all consuming" stems from your natal (not that I've looked at your natal). Because there's just not enough in your interaction yet. But still looking at your natal to see what type of relationships are going to be triggers for you will still be useful because it's noticed that your Moon is likely to be squared by Neptune and Uranus of people of your gen (see below). This leaves you very open to troublesome attachments.

However .. now looking closer ... I see lots of things! Because you aren't very close to each other, I would typically begin with Synastry. I would say that the feelings you feel are 1. the aspects below and 2. importantly the degrees; the degrees are quite tight and intense.

Whether it's worth it or not, perhaps the Davison will tell?

I'm just going to list through because I have to get back to studying, lol.

Your Pluto conjunct his Moon although wide IS a strong (and obsessive) force, and very much so for the Pluto person. Along with your Venus/Saturn square his Mars doubles that tension - the Venus/Saturn will stick and long for the Mars (again, obsessive), but, also, that Saturn can be a bit ****** in that it can go hot n cold playing games with a want you I don't want you, and frustrate Mars with too much complexity.

His Mars is sandwiched between these powerful forces with tight degrees and that's quite a web of tension. But, ultimately, referring back to your question if it's all worth it: this is not a nice web.

You do have your Jupiter trine that Mars (his Mars which tightly squared by your Venus/Saturn). But, I suspect that will only amplify and inflame the tension making it really tricky to resolve.

Your Mars trines his Venus though.. So we have mixed signals to the above. Adding to the: "sometimes we like each other sometimes we don't". Which can be really draining and confusing, especially if you want to have a life. But some people thrive on all that so who knows

His Saturn trines your Moon - outside one degree exact. But, that same Moon is also squared by the big guys Uranus and Neptune - EXACT. So, this is a counter force to what your Venus and Saturn is doing with his Mars. But it is EXACT so, that's a bit scary for me.

It's also a counter force to your Pluto (thankfully widely) on his Moon.

What a fun synastry to look at! My feeling is that it's a *** for tat, all consuming, possibly vengeful romance that will come of it in the end (but still I haven't looked enough.. I didn't even look at nodes hopefully there will be some mercy there, lol). These are important, fun learning relationships at some stage in our lives. More importantly though, they are really hard to resist

Let's see what else comes out..

Please keep us updated on your progress so we can all learn

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posted October 12, 2018 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! Your NN is on his Venus tight!

And in Aires so it's you about exercising and learning how to be the warrior. With those tense aspects etc I'd tread carefully.

And his is wide on your Neptune

About him learning how to be more "go with the flow". And for everyone not just the self.

But also, your SN is on all those planets in the Davison - perhaps you'll get tired of it all before he does.

I'd be taking it so slowly with all this. But I think that's going to be hard to do.

Keep us posted.

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posted October 12, 2018 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you soooooo much for the detailed reply, I will reply properly soon.

I just received a text from him asking ‘why do you hate me so much’.

I just can’t escape this!

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posted October 12, 2018 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am actually disgusted at the message he sent.

To me it indicates he is quite emotionally manipulative. He knows from our conversations I don't 'hate him', anything but.

I've asked him many times to just not communicate while I get my life in order, that it is too distracting and seems pointless while we are in different places.

He has talked about relocating to near where I am in the future btw.

I feel I have been completely transparent with my emotions toward him, yet I feel he hasn't expressed much at all. Yet he's quite aggressive with wanting to communicate all the time, and is not accepting of the fact that I don't want to.

Anyway he blocked my number again before I even had the chance to respond so I think this is the closure I need. He's definitely not the type of man I want in my life if this is how he is conducting himself.

He's not really revealing anything, leaving everything open to my own interpretation while I have made myself completely vulnerable by discussing with him how he impacts me and how I feel tied to him etc.

I just wonder what he is feeling, is this all a big game to him? Or does he actually feel what I am feeling too?

sassaqua you're so right about Saturn, I can tell he is super frustrated by my trying to shut down communication but also wanting to speak to him. It's been hard to completely cut him off, and every time I think I've done it successfully he comes back.

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posted October 13, 2018 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to say in my analysis before that, to be glad, because you may be dodging a bullet if you sidestep this situation. But, then again, I'd be surprised if you manage to get out of this web too, actually. Esp with that nn hit.

And this is why I request that you let us know how it goes some time down the track, and also too, your thoughts in retrospective. Because it's super interesting!

It's also interesting to hear how he is playing it out.. is his (aggressive Aries) Venus trying to lure your nn (and Mars) in? If so - why? What else is in his chart making his do this/what does he want, Etc.. I'd have to look more at the synastry (and his natal) to speculate at this level.

You are open to being manipulated and played with because of your Moon anyhow. Some people will pick up on that and enjoy playing with you. There are a lot of players out there too that do it for ego and lack the empathy and responsibility to not hurt others.

Hard to say about him - is he 18, 30 or in his 50s? It depends on lots of things: experience, maturity, how much energy they have left to play games.. Love games can be fun at some stages in our lives after all. It depends on what game it is too; some aren't pleasant, and some are incompatible to one of the people involved.

Sorry.. I'm ranting, lol..

You'd have to put his natal up for an analysis. With a damn grid!

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posted October 13, 2018 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting the Davison. That moon conjunct Venus in libra is that part of both of you that miss each other and want to be together but with NN in aquarius conjunct AC your relationship pushes you two to be more automous and independent hence you moving away shortly after meeting. There are feelings there but the destiny of the relationship pushes you to not depend on each other even though emotionally you feel a pull to be together bc of the moon conjunct Venus in Libra.

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posted October 13, 2018 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the response hypatia - I feel that's a running theme throughout my life too.

My NN in Aries opposes my natal moon, I yearn to have a partner, someone to lean on, and feel uncomfortable being independent, but over the years I've become so much stronger to the point where it would take a really special person to compromise my life for.

So it makes sense that people come in to my life to push me that way too. It's just so weird that we met like 2 and a half years ago and nothing kind of happened at all so I forgot about it, and then as soon as I leave he pops up and we form the connection I always dreamed of having with him.

It's weird because even though he is full Aries I do feel like he is depending on me for something? Attention? Affection? Emotional support? I can't give him what he needs right now.

Here is his natal chart:

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posted October 13, 2018 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sassaqua I think for my part my Mercury square Pluto natally gives me an obsessive mind.

He's mid 20's, (26?) however he has had one serious relationship (5 years) and a few other ones too.

Also, does anyone with Venus NN synastry ever end up together! I'm so over love lessons tbh, I just want a husband and peace in my life haha.

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posted October 13, 2018 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why are sun and mars in the 7th of Davison if we need to be independent of each other? Could we potentially be together in the future? Or does this look more of of a lesson learning connection?

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posted October 13, 2018 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cultstatus,

don't want to derail your questioning BUT, if you will be so generous, your Aries NN opposite your Moon is intriguing me.

I am analysing someone with similar: NN Aries. It is very widely opposite his Libra Mars. My Libran Moon falls in between the Mars and the SN. I only have Chiron at his NN end.

So.. my question is: how does it work when you have NN opposite (the important needs of) a personal planet? How do you think it would work if it was your Mars and not your Moon?

Also, how does the polarity go with node axis Libra-Aries? Need relationships > get relationship > don't want relationship? Want relationships where it's assertive maybe aggressive even? Or a relationship that allows/encourages the growth toward being assertive? Pushing away from harmony and pleasing people (but still needing this too because the personal planet is in Libra)? Starting fights in relationship to test strength? Having impatience for social niceties and contempt even for polite repertoire? Seeing nice people as pushovers? In my guys case: having sex with pleasers but only relationships with assertive-types (it's a guess!)? Ambiguous feelings: disdain for all things Libra (SN) but still also needing/being attracted to all things Libra (personal planets in Libra/SN), Starting fights with partner to justify going it alone (unconscious drivers).

All off the top of my head BUT I actually have NO idea. I don't even know this person at all, haven't even met. So it's all a guess.

It also depends on the rulers and other planets. In this person's case, it's the ruler of the NN that (almost/widely) opposes itself. He also has Saturn in Aries.

What do you think?

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posted October 13, 2018 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feel free to derail!

It's kind of challenging to explain as I feel I'm only just figuring this out myself as I learn to know myself better but I'll give it a go.

I literally yearn for relationships - I'm 31 now and from the age of 18 had a serious relationship for 5.5 years, then two more after that (3 years and 1 year), life is so much more COMFORTABLE AND EASY in a relationship, or so I thought. However - the only time I've ever really made progress in life is after I've gotten out of said relationships. Then I've made huge strides toward what I actually should be doing in this life. It never seems to happen when I'm WITH someone? But I've always felt this insatiable need to be with someone for support, but the support I'm trying to obtain from them ends up being a hindrance in hindsight.

When I'm IN the relationship I definitely want it, can't let go of it, will beat that horse until it's well and truely dead. I literally martyr myself.

So I suppose while I think I want relationships, they never seem to serve me very well in getting where I need to go. Which is probably why I am so scared of someone derailing me now, when I am SO CLOSE to my dream (of having my own label).

I actually hate Libra suns tbh, I've had a few close ones over the years but now I wouldn't even bother if another came my way. In saying that I do love everything Libra related, EVERYTHING must be aesthetically pleasing to the enth degree (work in fashion), I need peace and tranquility at home in every sense otherwise I completely lose my mind etc.

What else about the polarity, well I suppose I'm HUGE on manners, but at the same time I am so blunt that I often get told I'm 'rude' - which I find completely offensive, I think I'm speaking the truth and not presenting it with niceties to ease the blow, the truth is the truth. And if you don't present it without all the other crap it's not heard.

I'll think some more and get back to you on this one, interesting question!

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posted October 14, 2018 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I just checked Nessus and his Nessus is conjunct my moon in Synastry, and mine is exactly conjunct his Jupiter. Then we have it hanging out with mars inn davison!!

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posted October 14, 2018 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had their nessus conjunct my sun with people I have amazing relationships with, nessus on its own aspecting planets is not bad IME. It becomes more of an issue if you have nessus aspect dejanira and one of you has a strong nessus AND dejanira presence in your own chart and even then it doesn't necessarily mean it would end up manifesting as abuse. It could manifest as two people having an affair, one person liking more the other, or them enjoying soft versions of bdsm.

I mean you are going to have nessus aspects with many people.

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posted October 14, 2018 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cultstatus:
Sassaqua I think for my part my Mercury square Pluto natally gives me an obsessive mind.

He's mid 20's, (26?) however he has had one serious relationship (5 years) and a few other ones too.

Also, does anyone with Venus NN synastry ever end up together! I'm so over love lessons tbh, I just want a husband and peace in my life haha.


Statistics show that when is HIS venus on her NN it is one of the markers for divorce but not the other way around.

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posted October 14, 2018 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My last relationship, his Nessus was on my Descendant exact and he was abusive toward me. He was horrendous actually, so now I’m wary. I want to know more about the positive side of Nessus energy!

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