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Topic: Discussion on Twin Souls
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted October 03, 2020 03:13 PM
I don’t want to be presumptuous nor suggestive ... the anti-songs posted on the other thread although I haven’t listened but lyric-wise sent a dagger through my heart as if you might be in a lot of pain. Not sure how to reach out in case you may be, but I just want you to know you are appreciated, held dear to many.A transference of energy, instantly saddened, shot pains through my spine, build up, the length the energy sits with me now, empathize. cannot prescribe any outlook, what I can share instead, of myself throughout today, is a truth that it doesn’t matter who someone else is or isn’t.. and I recognize allowing oneself to distance/depart from attachment to desire does worlds of good in realm of achievement. to be critical in whichever way it need be; while love is unconditional, relationships (relating) are conditional, as they should be. values respected and upheld; trust is to be witnessed, never entitled. Your hatred (edit: despise) [for her] is meant to be realized, otherwise it floats in the periphery, homeless and easily attachable, blind spot of violence in the shadow of affection and logic I wish you peace, peace, peace
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 03, 2020 04:38 PM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted November 20, 2020 09:40 AM
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 20, 2020 11:29 AM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted November 20, 2020 01:52 PM
@galactic, are you moving on [from the “connection”]?IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 20, 2020 02:14 PM
Feels that way. Don't think nor feel much about her of late, and it's getting less and less. Since October, every time she would come up in thoughts and feelings, I'd either visualize a REBALL (Monroe Institute/Bob Monroe term for an energy shielding construct/thought-form) or shoot up intensely black (absorbing) energy walls between us. Seems to be working. Of course we are still connected in Spirit and on the higher levels. There isn't anything I can do about that, nor would I want to. She is my twin soul, and I love her--just don't want to be energetically connected to her personality and related levels of energy. Didn't realize it until recently, but that energetic connection to her was vibrationally bringing me down some. She needs to raise her vibratory levels on her own. She can, and eventually will, I think. And for you/yourself? IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted November 20, 2020 02:33 PM
Mhm, same. As I see it lately and steadily, “he’s on his own”. Don’t want anything to do with it, not even conciliatory. That potential means no difference to me. Life is too juicy and precious to be bogged down by that which seems to indefinitely impress them; the magnetic pulse from reality hacking. Me thinks it’s Ok to judge, how else. Somewhat instrumental, even if slow to start because of the previous hyper-consideration. I’m enjoying being “mad”, “disgusted”, “annoyed”. Think I deserve to unapologetically lead [by intuition] for once in a long time, a forward direction, for me and no else. Obvious is obvious but give it no added weight. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 20, 2020 02:46 PM
I'm glad to hear that things are improving for you as well. I hope they continue to. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135644 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 27, 2020 12:21 PM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted December 10, 2020 05:03 AM
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Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 292 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted December 10, 2020 09:45 AM
Got a Nina for you http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFVAoIU8vTM IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 12:32 PM
Was going to answer your question V, but guess it's kind of pointless now. You done went and pulled a Nina Ninja again. I have a song for you as well: http://youtu.be/oiiix_vIBSw (No romance/personal attraction implied--just referring to the "she's like the wind") IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted December 10, 2020 01:03 PM
I deleted it because afterward, I became p*ssed-off dwelling about the betrayal. So didn’t want to seem like a joker musing on soul while fuming about reality. @chanterelle, nice to see you caught that association in my title IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by nomad-monadJust a sidenote GCE, but from what I have gathered about your relation to this woman she absolutely does not sound like a TF to me. Definitely sound more like a karmic knot. And I really mean 'absolutely' and 'definitely'. TF-relation simply does not operate like this in my understanding. If you want to extend talk perhaps a new thread would be in order.
I think there are likely some misconceptions going on here. Will start off by saying that self is VERY aware of a good portion of self's connected Soul and Spirit history. Have received "Many" messages from both within and without over the last 2.5 decades about these. First one that I remember, was an intense dream when 16 about visiting a vast library where I viewed two "men", one middle aged and one older and wiser seemiing, conversing. Knew beyond a doubt that I was connected to the middle aged man. The older man handed my other Soul self a book (not me in a literal reincarnation sense, but a fellow Soul that comes from the same Expanded/Spirit/Monadic self that I came from, and a Soul self that part of me went into to make up). When he/we opened up said book, we started viewing another life/Soul self of ours from the early American period. As to without, my partner of nearly 20 years had a very clear and vivid dream about viewing my direct past life in ancient Egypt. Then various professional psychics/intuitives have filled in or confirmed some things here and there. Anyways, bring this up to highlight that I've gotten a lot of clear guidance about these topics. I'm also very good at tuning into others and their Soul and Spirit histories. Some have been verified as much as such things can be verified (for example, if one picks up on a specific name that a few other sensitives also picked up for another, then chances are likely that the information is objectively accurate). If self wanted, self could become a professional intuitive or the like, but that seems it would be going somewhat against the Pisces South Node/Virgo North Node path some. Twin Soul connections and relationships ultimately boil down to growth and balance. Do humans tend to experience growth from easy, harmonious, pleasant events and conditions? Clearly not, most seem to grow most often through trial, challenge, testing; in short pain and suffering. Including this self, much of the time. Apparently even Yeshua: "Though he was a son, he learned obedience through the things he suffered". Apparently nothing reorients us humans better than a little good old fashioned pain and suffering. Who hits us in our heart more than any other on the earth or in the heavens? Yeah, you guessed right, our twin soul. My normal, somewhat non attached, natural Buddhist like Aqua Venus and Cap Sun sextile Angular Uranus self, could not have been so deeply and emotionally affected by any other connection. Not a chance. I've known karmic soulmates--different feel and intensity level. I'm not the more hormonal and emotional guy I was back in my teens and early 20's. Am in my 40's and have been in a mostly loving, though sometimes challenging, continuous relationship with twin soul 1 for nearly 20 years. Besides knowing self's other life history and being able to tune into others as to specifics like names etc at times, this was one of the big clues that helped me to accept this information. My partner of nearly 20 years is beyond any doubt my twin soul. We moved in together pretty quick those so many years ago. After a couple to few months or so of moving in, my partner had an intense, vivid dream where she was viewing a red and black caterpillar that went into a cocoon state, and then emerged as a beautiful, deep and bright blue and purple butterfly. Both of us knew that it related to her healing journey. See, she had grown up in a largely cold, angry childhood where she received very little affection or love from either parent. Because of that, she had major walls and defenses around her heart. Our love, our powerful spiritual connection, and all the healing I had already done on self, was having a catalystic affect on her, helping her to heal and transform. Ok, nice story bro, how does it relate? Some 18 years after that dream, we both meet twin soul 2 at a mutual friend's party. TS1 and TS2 barely interacted that night, and yet, the day after or day after that, right before I went on a date with TS2, TS1 had a dream about viewing this ugly, mottled black and brown caterpillar which rather than going into a cocoon state right away, was in this very raw and painful state of constantly shedding its skin for awhile. Then, it finally went into a cocoon and then emerged as a beautiful white, hairy moth (highly, highly spiritual and transcendent symbolism). During the many hours long date the next night with TS2, even towards the very beginning, it became very obvious that the dream was about this new Lass. Like, she told me that she had been raped/molested as a child. These kinds of things tend to do a number on a person's psyche. The Soul can be old and wise, but when the body/personality goes through such things, major defenses and heart walls can be built up. Later on in our connection, she specifically asked me for help in healing. I spent about a month, everyday during meditation, sending her Love and healing energy. It started to have a powerful affect on her. Just as I had helped to heal the wounded, closed heart of TS1, I was starting to do similar with TS2. But though affecting her in obvious ways, I could not actually fully "heal" her. That apparently had/has to come later and without my help. And btw, you can have karma with a twin soul. Twin souls are not the same exact individual. All Souls are unique, self aware, freewilled consciousnesses. Twin soul is just a particularly powerful and very psychic connection because at one point, a long time ago, you were indeed one/same being. And in comes lovely karma. In my direct, literal last lifetime in Egypt as a priest, I met a priestess who I fell deeply, deeply in love with. I helped her heal in that life of a physical condition, and also became a combo spiritual teacher and lover to her. But I became more and more dissatisified with human/earth life. I deeply missed my ET soul group that I had left to incarnate into earth. For some years, literally the ONLY thing keeping me to the earth at the time was my beloved twin soul Priestess and our very intense, merged connection and deep love. We were both very psychic and very devoted to the Creative Forces, and in our mutual service to others, in our Tantric practices, we realized the ultimate twin soul in the flesh condition--we were fully telepathic with each other and were about as merged and connected as two different souls in two different bodies could be. It was bloody intense. But, I still ended up deciding to leave the earth with my non human friends. I tried to explain to her why I felt I had to go, but she was a bit more material focused and attached than myself. She did not take it well to put it mildly. For her, it was like someone ripped out her heart and cut it in two. Though I tried to stay in touch with her telepathically, in her pain and grief, she cut it and me off and then spiraled. The thing is, I did not actually "HAVE" to leave. I left for selfish and lack of Love reasons ultimately. Though I was a very loving and positive service based person, I was somewhat intolerant of humans in some ways and especially of their intolerance and dislike of me. I was not yet completely at that Source/Yeshua level of complete unconditional Love of others. In symbolic terms, I was not pure white/clear light at the time, but golden light and purple. If I had been, I would have stayed and continued to serve. Because when one is fully at the white/clear light level, it's not about YOU anymore whatsoever. There is no selfishness/ego left. And part of self felt coming into this life, that I needed to know what TS2 felt when I seemingly abandoned and seemingly rejected her (though again, it really wasn't about her), and so we set up a life situation where similar would happen to me. And indeed, I felt what she had felt, and it was intense and not something I would ever wish on anyone. There are some indications floating around out there, that after TS2 more fully heals herself and her deep heart wounds, that she may come back to me* and that we may resume our Egyptian life. I'm trying to not be attached to any outcome though. While part of me would love for a reuniting with her white moth self, I also know ultimately that I will be ok if she chooses not to. I'm completely done with chasing her. She is the first and only woman I have ever chased (TS1 literally threw herself at me), and I'm just so done with that. Reality, life, etc is often a little more complex and relative than what books and outer sources say. There are always rules/trends and exceptions to those rules/trends. The moment one tries to put "truth" in a box, is the moment that it will spring out of same and laugh at you, "Oh, you think you could confine me to some little narrow box of yours or others making? You got another thing coming bud." * After 7 months of ghosting/no communication (and telling me to never contact her again OR ELSE), she did try to come back to me back in late February. She even apologized and admitted I was right about a lot of things--for her that is major. Sign wise, Aries, Taurus, Scorpio, Virgo, and Leo are her strongest Signs and Uranus is her strongest planet, and it's been very obvious. Very prideful, very independent, kind of egotistical and likes to be in charge, etc (i.e. in some ways, more like a typical man more than a woman). Anyways, I welcomed her with open arms, and tried to help her with her new problem, but it became clear to me that she was still immature and not fully working on herself, because once she got what she wanted (forgiveness, counseling, comfort), she went back to her old communication style of, "everything and everyone else in my life is far more important and pressing to me than you" i.e. especially with me, she was a classic "taker" and I was being overly giving and it was unbalanced. So I told her to take a long walk off a short pier and very much meant it in the moment, and then a bit later, got over extreme because she wouldn't honor nor even speak to my one request (I asked for her help in cutting off the energetic connection between us*, because the connection was just too powerful, and painful for me, and it didn't feel like I could do it on my own). And yet, even now, though I'm starting to detach more and more emotionally, I still long for her and what we had had in Egypt and in the nonphysical. But, we both need to focus more on universal love and healing ourselves for now (especially she needs to focus on that). * To be fair, from her perspective, the above probably seemed out of "left field" and probably hurt her very, very deeply. After all in her mind, "I came back, I apologized, I admitted wrongs and my immaturity and fears, and now you say this to me just because I haven't gotten back to your emails/questions in a couple weeks?" I'm sure that very much confused and upset her, and it was easier for her to view me as toxic, not good for her, etc rather than address some of the deeper issues and continuing patterns between us.
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 02:13 PM
Hi Vansio, sorry, was trying to lighten up the situation some, as I felt some heaviness there, but I didn't want to and don't mean to make fun of your pain and anger. I very much understand it. She is traipsing around with some guru tantra teacher wannabe sex addict who literally told a person on a public venue that poor people just need to raise their vibration as to not be poor anymore. I would have hoped that she went with someone a little deeper and more in touch with their Soul and Spirit than that, but at least he is a bit better than the last guy she left me in the cold for. He fulfills her "egoic image" of an ideal partner on the surface level. Tall, "wild and uninhibited" (read hedonist, slightly narcissistic, sex addict), rugged good looks (minus a weirdly wide, yawning mouth that looks scary and predatory to me), can play the guitar a bit, is good in bed, is French and has that lovely Ferrrwrench accent, and is somewhat high up in their beloved Guru Tantric Cult group. Oh, and best of all, he calls her his "Goddess" (which you couldn't pay me enough to say to any woman who is not fully Source realized). Like music to her ears. Perfect guy for her ego image (Sun in Aries cusping Taurus with ruler, Mars, in Leo). Me, I'm boring, dull, and unattractive by comparison. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1502 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted December 10, 2020 03:20 PM
(No worries. I appreciate the both of you for showing your YouTube hands)IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2847 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 10, 2020 03:27 PM
@GalacticCoreExplosionthe messages you can get through all of this can be muddied and misinterpreted because you're limited by your human form just throwing that out there, i have remembered past lives myself and have come across people with shared memories and so on if you have multiple "twins" then they can't actually be a twin, goes against the very nature of the word IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 04:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: @GalacticCoreExplosionthe messages you can get through all of this can be muddied and misinterpreted because you're limited by your human form just throwing that out there, i have remembered past lives myself and have come across people with shared memories and so on if you have multiple "twins" then they can't actually be a twin, goes against the very nature of the word
Nah dude. Traditional reincarnation concepts are completely off. We aren't just one Soul that lives a physical life, goes into the nonphysical, and then rinse and repeat ad nauseum until we get it right or whatever. I used to believe in the above until guidance and life showed me that things are actually very different. This is the real way it works: We, as an individual Soul are connected to a larger, more original self that we could call our Spirit, Expanded self, Monad, or whatever floats your spaceship. Anyways, this original part of us, is a creator type. From within itself, it creates new Souls on as needed basis--usually in the context of another human lifetime. Actual direct, literal reincarnations of a Soul that already lived a human life, are actually fairly rare and not the norm. Certain can and does sometimes happen, but not the norm. But here's the thing. That larger self that we are talking about, is only a half of the original self. Before incarnating in the earth and/or other polarized, imbalanced, physical places, these two Expanded self levels use to be One and the same being. A Vast Light Being. But when it got involved with earth and/or other similar worlds, it ended up splitting into two different but very connected halves of itself, where one started off a bit Yin polarized (in my case, my half) and the other started of a bit Yang polarized (her half). Why, to expand experience perspectives, and to become spiritual/growth helpmeets to each other. The whole Adam and Eve account is related to the Twin Soul, except that it's somewhat backwards because Yin energy was the first known/experienced energy. So in that sense, Adam actually came from Eve. Anyways, various reputable sources like Robert A. Monroe, Bruce Moen, Rosalind McKnight (a personal friend) all mention that our Expanded self level can and often does have more than one Soul self from it incarnated within the same space/time cycle. I have actually met some of my Expanded self's other Soul selves. 3 men and two women. It would take too long to explain how and why I know we are all part of the same Expanded self. All these various experiences, connections, guidance messages, etc have happened over many years. Now, my partner has had multiple dreams telling her about her Expanded self's other Souls that are in this same time/space cyle. Two that we have not met and didn't know of. But TS2 and another woman I met and had a very strong connection with at Burning Man, are the two other Soul selves besides the two ones of her dreams, that we both have met. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Some of the experiences and guidance messages in relation to all the above have been pretty intense. To explain all would require a small book, which I'm not about to write. But to briefly mention, the well known OBE author/nonphysical explorer, refiner of binaural beat audio, and orignator of The Monroe Institute--Robert (Bob) A. Monroe-- wrote in one of his books about a conversation with guidance that he had, that expanded selves not only can, but often do have more than one soul self going on in the same space/time cycle. Then they told him that his expanded self had two other Soul selves going on, and that if he met the woman, she would feel like a sister. Then, Bob became friends with a younger guy, Bruce Moen, who started to attend his Institute's programs. After Bob died, Bruce finds out that his friend Bob, and a lady he calls "Rebecca" who was also friends with Bob and he, are part of his Expanded self (which Bruce calls the "Disk" because he was an engineer and liked computer analogy). After reading this account in Bruce's 3rd book, and wondering about if it was true or not, I had a dream where I was in Bruce's class and as I was watching him teach, his face morphed into Bob's and then back to his. My guidance was telling me, yes, both the general concept and Bruce's claims are true. I later ended up becoming somewhat friends with Bruce and even more so with Rosalind McKnight who also knew Bob very well (she had been one of his Explorers for a number of years). I also ran into some other people here and there that knew Bob personally. All say the same thing, that Bob was the real deal. Rosie (Rosalind A. McKnight), the lady above, btw, was one of the people I was referring to that is a Soul from the same Expanded self level that I am from. Interestingly, not only did we share the same birthday, but the same Mercury degree (10* Cap), nearly the same Venus degree (21/22* Aquarius), had the same Moon Sign (Libra), and she also very much loved Edgar Cayce's work and Yeshua and his teachings. Before I became friends with her and shortly before I attended the Gateway Voyage Program at The Monroe Institute, I had a dream where I became aware that my partner and I had "helped the Monroe family" before. I actually didn't figure out the connection between Rosie and I, past our time of friendship and after her body died (she was elderly when we met). In hindsight, it kind of made sense that I would also ended up becoming somewhat friends with and hanging out with Bruce Moen a bit as well. Part of ourselves had worked together before--it was just a continuing of a previous connection in an indirect sense. (As to hanging out, for example, he invited us over to a Christmas Eve dinner party with his two professional psychic friends and his partner). IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1615 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted December 10, 2020 04:49 PM
Hope y'all don't mind me butting in Galactic, it's really cathartic reading you talk about your TF2. I experienced something very similar from 2015-2020 with another Aries Sun. Immediately we were drawn deep into each other's siren song - and yet, we both kept each other at arms length in spite of the huge sexual/emotional/intellectual/psychic draw. I would literally dream of this person every night - perhaps even astral projecting - and would come to "see" events unfolding in their life before things would materialize in the physical world. The sheer mystery of this connection would drive me insane for 5 years while I hemmed and hawed over what to do. Ultimately though, as with your TF2, I was a bit repulsed at how enmeshed this person was with the "rewards" of the material world and that they weren't necessarily interested in leveling up their spiritual practices. Things like cars, muscles, money, status, designer clothes took up so much importance in their life. I was simultaneously repulsed and deeply attracted to them. The potential of everything between us drove me mad. I think throughout the next 5 years I would preform so many cord cutting ceremonies between us simply because I couldn't stand being submerged in the psychic connection between us. It was infecting my energy field and I couldn't do anything without the heavy presence of his energy looming over me. These cord cutting ceremonies never worked and like you, I felt that the only way I could rid myself of this connection short of either of us dying would be to ask for his consent to cut the cord. I never did get around to that, but I did find a highly refined medium who looked into the connection for me. She saw that he had corded himself into my 4th chakra very heavily (while I had corded myself into his 2nd) and that these cords cannot exist without some level of mutuality, that an unconscious consent between the two parties takes place on some plane. She did end up cutting the cord and healing the open wounds left in my 4th chakra. I was pretty skeptical, but two weeks later, the dreams have finally stopped. I no longer feel tuned into his frequency. I feel this weird euphoria I can’t even place. And I genuinely did feel that she was tapping into my energy, and somehow I feel lighter, like the grief of his loss isn’t weighing me down like it usually does. I think what helped was that I did want to get over it and knew that it was very necessary for me to move on with my life. That energy was like an anchor, holding me down and drowning me, whereas it was once empowering and truly the fuel behind all my recent great successes. But I knew that it was time to let it go. Sometimes I can feel some phantom movements of his energy. It usually manifests as this distant, vague knocking on my heart. Like something is currently happening that would hurt me but a very thick protective layer is keeping it at bay, so the knocks don’t reverberate throughout the castle like they once did. So it is possible to cut the cord and truly heal without the other party's explicit consent. Just wanted to put that out there as a "solution" in case it resonated with you
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nomad-monad Knowflake Posts: 320 From: universe university Registered: Mar 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 05:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: @GalacticCoreExplosionthe messages you can get through all of this can be muddied and misinterpreted because you're limited by your human form just throwing that out there, i have remembered past lives myself and have come across people with shared memories and so on if you have multiple "twins" then they can't actually be a twin, goes against the very nature of the word
This. I am not saying anything against what is pretty basic TF-process: awakening all wounds in order to heal them, which can only be done on one's own - ultimately speaking. Karma is essentially the friction we interact with in order to mature our soul - it is literally the ground it utilizes to generate movement - i.e. it is in every single relation and interaction we have.
You desiring to cut the cord and both your behaviors is to me a clear sign that you very possibly could be mistaken. It sounds to me that you are overreading a situation that is ultimately about someone you have karmic knot with, by which I mean a knot that is to be untied so that you can progress on your healing journey. What seem to further be lacking in your story is the profound love, coming-home, and seamless interaction felt by both parts that come before all wounds are triggered, and a date is simply not enough for this interaction to be re-established: we are talking best friends ever vibe with the added high voltage love that seems too hot to handle to both parts before the healing has been made. This interaction is the first thing that happens, and that loving-interaction is what in time opens the wounds before the separation where each is to heal on their own. It does not sound to me like this existed between you. That 'coming home' feeling must be absolutely mutual, like fitting together two broken pieces of an ancient statuette, each piece feeling a indescribable relief and joy that in time gets clouded by this-life ego's and our energetic imprints. Just for comparison, here are some TF markers that I've heard usually arrive in addition to the above mentioned 'feelings'. These are all from my own relationship (but it's not all of them), and I am still being open to the (seemingly slight) possibility that I am wrong in my conviction. Your absolute certainty in terms of your interpretative abilities worries me, because that kind of certainty is to me a clear sign that something is amiss. Markers: - Birthday match 1: Me born on the day of her cousin and She born on the day of my sister. Cousin/sister relate to trauma/love/healing. - Birthday match 2: Mutual birthday adds up numerologically to 2222. - Dream match 1: Mutual dream prior to meeting of past-life TF-love with each other (= identical personality vibrancy between dream-person+this life = no symbolism but actual identity match). - Scar match: Same scar on hand. - Shortly after I met her, I received a guided message from another source stating clearly that I had met her and that I needed to be patient. - Dream match 2: In separation from her, dreams have developed sequentially letting me know how her healing process progresses. - Dream match 3: Clear dream of alchemical marriage, where I saw her with her father (trauma-source) observing the marriage: white+black bodies intercourse in a bed over purifying fire) - In non-separation, 2222 popped up literally everywhere and all the time. - In non-separation, I told her about the TF-possibility, and she agreed that it seemed very likely. Astrologically, there is too much for me to list, really, I would have to write all day. Just to name a few things: - Composite Isis/Osiris conjunction. - Amor conjunction. - Composite 222222/Unitas conjunct her Juno/MC, my Juno/Venus midpoints, her DSC/Neptune/Uranus - opposite my Moon. - Her Unitas/Soomana on my Sun/Jupiter. - Venus conjunction. - Sun conjunction conjunct Saturn/Jupiter conjunction. Each of these things on their own does not mean very much, but the agglomeration of everything does (to me, that is). What I know is that having met her, and even if I never see her again, my dream have already come true, she is always with me, and I could not be happier. Your struggle seems very, very different, and it does not sound very TF to me. My chart in case you are interested:
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2847 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 10, 2020 05:18 PM
@GalacticCoreExplosion:did i say that was how reincarnation worked? don't think i did, and it's not what i believe either, you make a lot of assumptions when you respond you know rather than going on what's actually said, it makes discussions a little difficult at times when my pov is already assumed and then i'm being "schooled" about why the assumption you made on my views is "wrong" not annoyed or anything (so my apologies if i seem that way) just pointing it out because i've found myself saying somewhat frequently now "that isn't what i said" like i've said our human forms are limited in their potential understanding, good to be sure of your views but that doesn't mean your interpretations are always correct (nor does it mean others who aren't on the same page as you are necessarily wrong or less advanced or that their experiences mean nothing and carry no weight) shouldn't assume others experiences or views either though, no matter how advanced you think you are it closes and limits discussion do i 100% agree with you? no i don't, have i had plenty of my own personal experiences that have been verified by other people and could be backed in esoteric and occult books and so on? yes which brings me back to my point about our incarnations having limitations, beliefs that may serve us from point a to point b may eventually prove worthless the further we go on our path or need refining something it's important to always acknowledge in my view do i believe we recycle ourselves over and over and over til we get it right? no not at all 🤷♀️ at no point have i ever believed that, and that has not been reflective of my experience either you speak of things that are to come and while i don't agree with you on the exact nature of how they'll play out i know that you're more or less correct because of my own experiences (and the jist of it is more important no?) i'm here somewhat grudgingly due to those things and i'm well aware of that for many reasons and i mention it because i acknowledge that you have had valid experiences, but i wouldn't equate your knowledge as being the epitome of what there is to know but there's more to come at any rate so perhaps you'll feel differently about some things in the future or perhaps i will either way it doesn't matter but yeah some of what you believe is a bit off in my view, not in a particularly important way though means nothing that that's how you see it in my view they do not both seem to have the same connection to you where i think that the same label is correct to use, but i don't see a huge issue with you doing it because it means very little ultimately i won't disagree on suffering, it's a gift from god 😉 IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2847 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 10, 2020 05:43 PM
@ nomad-monad: yeah that home feeling being mutual, things just feeling right, super deep connection that goes both ways is really importanti think the pain of separation and desire to cut the cord isn't necessarily something that negates this, though i do think that it's impossible to actually go through with it rather than coming to your senses first, that's all a matter of how someone deals with pain i don't think actual twin flames could ultimately bear to actually cut the cord even if it hurts and things are difficult due to circumstance and wounding because no amount of pain would be worse than losing that connection and i agree absolute certainty in interpretation with no room for doubt is a bit much, only need a "mustard seed of faith" afterall perfectly ok to question IP: Logged |
nomad-monad Knowflake Posts: 320 From: universe university Registered: Mar 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: @ nomad-monad: yeah that home feeling being mutual, things just feeling right, super deep connection that goes both ways is really importanti think the pain of separation and desire to cut the cord isn't necessarily something that negates this, though i do think that it's impossible to actually go through with it rather than coming to your senses first, that's all a matter of how someone deals with pain i don't think actual twin flames could ultimately bear to actually cut the cord even if it hurts and things are difficult due to circumstance and wounding because no amount of pain would be worse than losing that connection and i agree absolute certainty in interpretation with no room for doubt is a bit much, only need a "mustard seed of faith" afterall perfectly ok to question
I agree with you - and perhaps I sounded more harsh than I am/intended - but I don't think it's possible to cut the cord since the love is the ultimate binder, and you can't cut that love since it is holding your own self together as much as it holds the relation together - cutting it is just not possible, and if your ego desires to do it your higher self will step in right away. It can't be done not because it would hurt but simply because it can't be done. I had the desire to cut at a certain point but that was very short lived. Every time I made the 'decision' some sign showed up shortly afterwards that pulled me back to the love and acceptance. In terms of GCE it's mostly my Piscean ways feeling something is off in the way he explains it. Rationally expressing this feeling is not my strong suit. Obviously that does not mean I am right per default, but I've learned to trust rather than distrust my sensitivity, with caution. In any case I found your reply above to GCE to be very well put and on point with my perception. This is not to take away your wisdom GCE but I do get a sense of a lack of balance. There may be a proximity soul-mesh wise and/or a deep karmic knot bound over multiple lifetimes, but from what I've gathered thus far the TF-interpretation does not resonate with me at all. There is also a general mistake in bunching Twin Flame and Twin Soul together I just realized, where TF's are created at the same 'time' and have a journey together whereas TS's are the same soul deciding to divide itself and can amount to 3 maximum (trinity). Something like that. I think GCE speaks of the latter rather than the former - possibly - which would explain the confusion, because I don't think TS's have the same kind of love-bond that TF's have. The end point in any case for anyone is to develop your soul's capacity for love/wisdom as a unified field of vibrancy. The necessity for this increases as we are overdue for collective harvest, and this is why we see so much TF-stuff going on increasingly. The TF 'mission' or service to the collective as I understand it is to unite and through their unification provide a massive field of loving energy that can color-off on other souls so as to assist them to integrate this energy and become 'harvestable' or able to 'graduate' into higher density/frequency planes. TS's may not have the purpose of this specific joint-service.
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i won't disagree on suffering, it's a gift from god 😉
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenaia: Hope y'all don't mind me butting in Galactic, it's really cathartic reading you talk about your TF2. I experienced something very similar from 2015-2020 with another Aries Sun...
Not at all, thank you very much for chiming in (like a clear, high pitched, beautiful sounding bell) Athenaia. Very intense account. I can relate to A LOT of what you said. And yes, both simultaneously repulsed and extremely drawn/attracted to them. If you think about it, that is much of the nature of oppositions in Synastry. There is this powerful push pull dynamic that happens. And not surprisingly, we have a lot of opposite Sign and Planetary energies going on. Like her Sun is opposite Sign of my Moon, Mars-ruler of her Sun, 8th, and co-ruler of her Moon Sign is opposite my Venus ruler of my Moon/MC/Pluto Signs. Her Virgo Rising opposite my Pisces S. Node, etc, Planetary wise, I have very strong Sun, Jupiter, and Neptune, and she has very strong Uranus and Mercury. In a lot of ways, we are both polar opposites and yet also have some deep similarities. Thank you for sharing what has helped you. Yes, I have noticed that one can cut or at least really damp down the energetic ties. Our last mutual communication was this past early October. After that, every time she would come up in thoughts and feelings, I would put a REBAL (psychic shielding) around me with her name in same and an X through it. Or, I would visualize shooting up these immensely black, absorbing, energetic walls between us, and somewhat to my surprise, over time it started to help. I still think about her (obviously), but the feelings, the ache, the longing, are decreasing more and more. And I can talk about her without that emotional baggage coming up. And like you noticed as well, I felt lighter, freer, more intune. She is, or was, much more focused in her first 3 centers than myself. I'm very focused on the upper centers, 4, 5, especially 6th, and increasingly a bit more the 7th. When we were more strongly energetically connected, my sex drive was way higher. Now that I've been doing the above, it's dropped way down which is what I prefer. It was like her heavier, slower vibratory energy was resonating me down some. At the same time, I also fully accept that I/my Soul and Expanded self still very much loves her/her Soul/Expanded self. I'm just done with waiting, done with hope, and very done with chasing. The ball is her court and if she ever wants reconciliation, she'll have to come to me right and with reciprocity, full honesty, vulnerability, and an open heart/general openness. That's all I ever wanted and asked from her. It's what I always gave her until it was too much. I would give her a 3rd chance if I sensed she was mature, balanced, and healed enough, but as they say, I'm also not holding my breath. Thank you again for sharing. It really does mean a lot to me. Feel free to chime in any time. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 10, 2020 08:25 PM
Thank you for sharing your connection and your chart Nomad-Monad. I'm glad you are aware of this connection and what it means for you. I don't really have much comment, because I don't really know you, nor her, etc. If you say you are Twin Souls, kool beans, who am I to say you are or aren't? If I went into every little synchronicity, every guidance message, every dream I've had about her, our chart comparison, etc, well I would be here a long time and writing a small book and I don't see the point of that. You only "see" what I'm sharing. I'll give some relatively brief examples of how off you are. That first night we spent together, she looked at me with such love, attraction, and intensity and me to her as well, that I all could think about was energetically merging with her. She said things to me like, "I'm sorry I keep staring at you, you're just so nice to look at." She also reported in surprise that she was getting very hot for some reason. My much faster vibratory energy field, was raising her energy field's vibratory rates and she experienced it as "heat". Right after she met me, she met another guy (literally a few days later), her own age. She is 15 years younger than me and me being married probably bothered her on some level though like me, she is towards the poly/open, and actually the guy she met, was even younger than her. She kind of dropped me like a hot potato when she met him, as she started spending a lot of time with him. When she told me, I blessed their union and said I hoped it worked out well. Though part of me was hurt, because she had already asked for help in healing and because I loved her, I still spent that month meditating every day sending her Love and healing energy (I had already started before she met the other guy), even though she barely communicated with me. Because my love for her was deep, profound, and nearly unconditional. Btw, she thought it was very synchronistic that at the time I worked with people with autism and that her boyfriend, her "soulmate", has autism. But then later on, because of a disagreement, she went Uranian-Plutonian extremist on me (as she is want to do) and cut me off. I decided to stop the meditation practice of sending her love and healing energy because she said she didn't want anything to do with me, and this practice was really increasing the energetic connection between us, which was both painful for me, and just too much because I could feel her constantly. So I stopped. Within a few days of me stopping, she put up a video on FB talking about how she had gone from a previously very low energy, anxious, depressed, critical, judgmental, etc state awhile back to feeling really good, having a lot of faith, optimism, feeling in love with herself, life, and her boyfriend. But then she says that something just recently completely switched where she went back to the darkness, to the heavy feelings, to the judgement and criticism of self and others, and she broke up with her "soulmate" boyfriend. The timing of all this was not coincidental. The unusually positive, lighter, happier state occurred when I was maintaining this practice of sending her love and healing energy, and when I stopped, she became like her old self. Some random synchronicities: Her birth day and Life path numbers reduce to the same exact ones as my set. Both of our birthdays core numbers are 8, and our Life path's are 9. I don't even know what the odds of that are. Pretty unlikely for both to be the same. These are one's two most important birth date numbers. The other Soul self I viewed in that Library dream, the one that I am very energetically connected to, had two loves connected to each other. One had been born at early Taurus cusping Aries. She had two names in that life. Then her reincarnation connected self was born under Aries. TS2, in this life was born under Aries Sun cusping Taurus with Taurus S. Node cusping Aries and right on that other woman's Sun. Her name in this life, is a combination of the two names of that other woman. This is our Synastric Chart comparison, and then our Composite. Both are ridiculous, simply f'ing ridiculous and without invoking asteroids and other potential statistical noise. http://drive.google.com/file/d/1jVxNrTteSBPkudqNKXDckQHOEPZkt9kx/view?usp=sharing http://drive.google.com/file/d/1jZBx2sgDYF4TMIYWbZPkDVv3dFdF126l/view?usp=sharing The ruler of her Sun, 8th House, and Co-ruler of her Moon--Mars is conjunct my ASC within some minutes AND in opposition to my Venus which is the ruler of my Moon/MC/Pluto Signs. Jupiter, one of my strongest Planets (in my 1st), ruler of my 5th and co-ruler of 8th is conjunct her ASC within minutes. Her Sun Sign is generally opposite Sign of my Moon. The modern ruler of her 7th, Neptune, is conjunct my Cap Sun which is my chart ruler. The co-ruler of her 7th, Jupiter, is very closely conjunct my 5th House cusp and conjunct my Sag Neptune in the 5th. The ruler of my Sun and Mercury, and faster moving ruler of my Venus and DESC, Saturn, is in her 1st House and opposed her Pisces Venus Saturn conjunction, where Saturn rules her 5th and along with Venus is in her 7th. The modern ruler of my Venus and DESC, Uranus, is conjunct her Moon and her Moon is in my 4th. Her Chart ruler-Mercury/South Node conjunction is conjunct my MC. I could go on and on without bringing asteroids and other data noise into the equation. I could talk about the dream I had about her after she had cut me off, where we came together and embraced, and I have never felt such powerful forgiveness, love, and happiness as we both just wept in each others arms, feeling like we were merging together. It felt like a lost part of me had come back. Because of that dream and because of Tarot, I KNEW she was coming back to me even after many months of ghosting/no contact (which she did). She had literally told me in her last communication, that if you contact me again, I will try to make your life suck big time. Unfortunately, I was dealing with a rather wounded and imbalanced personality. Older Soul, but very covered over due to her age (mid 20's) and combo of past life heart wound and this life trauma. How well do you think you'd be functioning if an adult man had raped you as a child, among other things? Not everything happens according to some kind of Fairy tale fantasy of two pure personalities coming together in pure love. No, this is the real world, where most people are pretty messed up and covering over their Soul and Spirit levels. There are many things I could talk about, but at some point, I really just don't care what you or others say. Just because our situation is different than yours or from what you have read in books or the like, doesn't mean anything. There are no RULES to any of this. The ONLY consistently defining trait of a Twin Soul connection is a powerful, automatic, mutual psychic connection. ONLY ONE. They can stay together, they can leave, they can come back together, leave, etc, etc All of that is based on what is best for the growth of each involved, WHILE also realizing that we have freewill and we can technically tell our Expanded self to go take a hike, even after being nudged in this or that direction. And people DO do that and frequently. It's like you believe that life follows some sort of formula. It doesn't. Shades of your fixed Scorpio S. Node and the faster moving ruler of same, Mars, conjunct Saturn in Sagittarius? You're also really coming off as an arrogant pr!ck in trying to tell me what's up with my life, my relationship, what guidance I've received, etc when you don't even know the half of it, you don't know me, you don't know her, you don't really know jack. And you're really going to invoke your Piscesness? Dude, you're trying to become Pisces in this life, I've been there, done that, wrote the book, got the t-shirt, and am bringing it over in this life (angular Pisces South Node, plus including a 1st House Jupiter and a very powerful Neptune--parallel my chart ruler the Sun, almost exactly sextile Venus the ruler of my Moon/MC/Pluto/3rd, widely square to the ruler of my Sun and Mercury Signs, etc). What exactly is your point? Do we really need to lay our Piscean d!cks on the table here to compare? Wanna do a remote viewing off, ala male model Zoolander style? IP: Logged | |