posted December 10, 2020 08:46 PM            

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if you have multiple "twins" then they can't actually be a twin, goes against the very nature of the word

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Either we are talking about different things, or we have very different views of how incarnations happen. I haven't met too many people that see incarnation the same way as I do.

I'm talking about the term Twin Souls as outlined by the Edgar Cayce work. I'm not talking about any New Age business marketing b.s. that seeks to take advantage of lonely, upset people.

Point being, is that most Expanded selves have thousands of Souls within them. So any one, and all of those thousands of Souls within your Expanded self, are technically "twin Souls" to the other half of your Spirit and it's Expanded self and all the thousands of Souls within same.

And as mentioned, Expanded selves not only can, but often do, have multiple Soul selves going on in this space/time cycle.

Which means, you can meet various other Souls from/connected to your Spirit's other half.

What exactly is your argument? You literally think Twin Souls operate like physical, identical twins? No, not at all. It is you and Nomad-Monad that do not understand the true nature of what twin souls are. And there are not two classes either. Twin souls is just the term that Cayce's guidance used. People today in the new age seem to favor "twin flames".

And btw, what do you experientially know about twin souls? What is your experience with same? Is Scorpio ex your twin soul? Is anyone you've met your twin soul?

Cause if you haven't, it's kind of like one guy saying, I've never worked on this car brand/model ever in my life, telling another guy in the middle of wrenching on same, and who has wrenched on that kind of car before, "you're doing it wrong". Raises eyebrow, "oh really, do tell?" "Well, I read a manual once". "Ah uh, ok, whatever you say."

I don't know too many guys my age that have been in a relationship with the same women for nearly 20 years. When I first met TS1, I psychically knew much about her. Knew who she was connected to in an other life sense, knew she was my twin soul, etc, etc. Eventually, all the guidance that she received over the years for herself (dreams, psychic readings, etc) confirmed all that that I knew pretty much when I first met her.

Same thing happened with TS2. Partly because I'm very intuitive/psychic, but even more so because of the intense, twin soul connection. When you meet a Soul from the other Expanded self from your larger Spirit self, you just know on a deep level, unless you are so messed up with super intense fears, wounds, major defenses, strong ego/personality like TS2 is (or was).

She ran away from me, precisely because of the intensity. She couldn't handle it. Her biggest fear is to get really close to a guy, and them abandoning her. So she goes for guys that she has a more shallow connection to, and wouldn't be devastated if they broke up. The Lass has Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto conjunct IC, and Pisces Venus Saturn conjunct in her 7th. I get it.

posted December 10, 2020 09:10 PM            

citing various people who agree often does nothing because ad populum

my point was people use the term "twin flame" to describe a very specific connection that cannot be reproduced or replaced by another person, the very nature of the term means it does not apply to multiple people

now if you want to make an argument that the term itself is wrong in your view that's fine, however, when we use language the way it's intended then that doesn't work

that comment is essentially a semantics discussion

do i agree with your views on incarnation entirely? no i don't, my experiences have not been in line with yours

i don't practice new age things personally, but i see no reason to insult people who do either or imply their views are somehow "less than"

this is all very arrogant on your part, i hope you realize that

my views not reflecting yours 100% doesn't necessarily mean that i'm the one who lacks "true understanding" they could simply mean that you only see your views as valid at a potential detriment to yourself

my scorpio ex and i had a karmic connection, we spent 15 years dating and knew each other roughly 20, there was a lot to work out but i wouldn't call her a twin no

someone i know currently though? yes, but i don't get into that because it's a complicated mess of a situation in spite of the mutal awareness

so no, not being that guy, but alright

there were many synchronicities with my ex, these were necessary for karma to be paid and because karmic can still be fated and important, it's still a connection (i've cut that cord remorselessly without hesitation)

we had many experiences together of a psychic nature (including shared past life stuff, and she is not the only person i've had experiences of this nature with)

i'm not lacking in ability or intuition, i've had many of my own experiences so i'm curious why you think yours are the be all end all and invalidate others when you yourself seem to have an issue when it's done to you

trauma shouldn't cancel that out, connection should be strong enough to override that in my experience (coming from a place of being the person with major trauma) there's a lot i don't speak about here

the bulk of my beliefs and experiences being some of it, but also a good deal of things just about myself

i assume you could feel for me though if you wanted, could always take a stab at that if you want more clarity

the personal experiences i have/have had in regards to this aren't for the forum though if you have a means of private discussion and want to do that i'm perfectly fine with that

edit: btw my experiences are what brought me here, not just curiosity or interest in these subjects

a desire to flesh out my understanding of things that have happened, but there's a long story in all of that

my username reflects some of it, a pivotal point actually

posted December 10, 2020 09:20 PM            

signs when getting to that point along with feelings have been a large source of frustration for me, but i definitely have escapist tendencies

but every time they pop up there's always been something, even questioning seems to bring some synchronicity

posted December 11, 2020 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:

I have zero interest in debating this for various reasons, but I am happy to disseminate the following information which comes from, in my view, the most reliable group of channelers by far, L/L Research, lead today by Jim McCarthy who was a part of the original group consisting of Carla Rueckert and Don Elkins. These three are the people who channeled Ra and published The Ra Material - in my view the most profound and ground breaking book of channeling available today.

From DEC 26, 1982
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1982/1982_1226.aspx

(Jim channeling)

I am Latwii, and I greet you, my friends, in love and light. We are privileged once again to be able to join your group. We thank you for extending this invitation to us this evening. May we ask then if there might be a question with which we might begin our humble service?

[b]S: Yes, Latwii, I have a question. What can you tell me, if anything, of the phenomenon known as twin souls?

I am Latwii, and am aware of your query, my sister. We find that this term and others among your peoples has become somewhat overworked, shall we say. There are among those who seek the truth many concepts which fascinate the mind. The very seeking of truth opens new vistas and presents the mind with information and experience of such a revolutionary nature, shall we say, that often it is difficult for the seeker to discern those concepts which have merit from those which merely attract attention. The concept of the twin soul, soul mate, and twin flame or twin ray is a concept which has some basis in what you may call fact, but which offers little of value in the seeker’s experience. Though there are entities who have from the great reaches of time and space as you know them come into the earth planes as groups and even as a type of mate, there is, in our humble opinion an overemphasis upon such a phenomenon to the point where the searching for one’s, shall we say, other half becomes a replacement for the searching for truth. Therefore may we say that such phenomena do exist, yet are quite insignificant when viewed in relations to the purpose for such incarnation.[

From JUL 17, 2003
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2003/2003_0717.aspx

G: Thus, though there are goals towards which each moves, there is the movement, the perception of the movement, and so on, which when examined without too much dedication to an outcome, can give one a hint, a direction, a possibility. But when focused upon too intensively shall we say, when obsessed about, [they] may become a stumbling block upon the journey. Thus do strengths become weaknesses and weaknesses strengths.[/B]

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posted December 11, 2020 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
There’re much pain and rejection in this world. Why would we need some TF to make it worse?😧 How the rejection and pain from TF are better than from a random person who doesn’t care?
If one comes to make my life worse, maybe, he must stay in the past life and don’t spoil this one. I don’t think I’ve ever heard much good things about TF.

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Speaking for self, this has been my experience and sums it up for me:

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Who hits us in our heart more than any other on the earth or in the heavens? Yeah, you guessed right, our twin soul. My normal, somewhat non attached, natural Buddhist like Aqua Venus and Cap Sun sextile Angular Uranus self, could not have been so deeply and emotionally affected by any other connection. Not a chance. I've known karmic soulmates--different feel and intensity level. I'm not the more hormonal and emotional guy I was back in my teens and early 20's.

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Didn't consciously ask nor want to meet TS2, but sometimes one's Expanded self level has different ideas and plans for its connected soul self than do you. And again, there are some things I just cannot ignore since I am a truth and evidence based person. The Cayce work is the most verified psychic source in the world, and it talks about the concept of twin souls multiple times. Cayce's guidance was very wise and loving, and probably far more aware than most of us here (humans in general). It wouldn't have brought it up if there wasn't a reason nor truth to it.

What one does with such knowledge is up to them. How important is this knowledge in the grand scheme of things? Probably not the most important by a long shot. To me, Universal Love is more important in the grand scheme of things. But the concept and understanding of same, explains to me how someone sort of detached (more non attached?) like myself could be so intensely and deeply affected by a relative stranger in material terms. She and this connection, really did hit me like a combo of a Mac truck and ton of bricks.

posted December 11, 2020 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
What exactly is your point? Do we really need to lay our Piscean d!cks on the table here to compare?

Wanna do a remote viewing off, ala male model Zoolander style?

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No thanks, I am not interested in measuring dicks or anything else, so you can stuff your dick back in your pants now.

posted December 11, 2020 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:

No thanks, I am not interested in measuring dicks or anything else, so you can stuff your dick back in your pants now.

My point was to voice a certain concern about how you come off in terms of your absolute convictions, and you are free to respond to this however you like.
I see how you responded, and that is enough for me to stop interaction with you right now.
As far as I am concerned, Dumuzi is right on point.

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You really can't see your rudeness/disrespect by telling me 1. that the person I think is one of my Twin souls, isn't actually my twin soul?

and then 2. strongly implying that I'm unbalanced?

You really think you can say stuff like this to someone and not expect someone to speak strongly to you and call you out on your shite? I'm not a pin cushion you can poke at at your heart's content. Also been there, done that.

Let's look at your chart for a second. The ruler of your Chart, via the Gemini ASC, is Mercury. Mercury is in Pisces and somewhat closely square (3* approaching) Angular Uranus. This is a very strong Uranus. You have no flowing aspects to Uranus. Only the Mercury square and Moon inconjunct.

Uranus, among other things, is that of the extremes, the erratic. I've often seen this side of Uranus and those with very powerful Uranus that Cayce's source outlined, "Those of exceptional abilities with the Uranian influence may be well said to be mean exceptional abilities to err, or to be led astray in the direction not best for... self's development" Reading 38-1

In other words, when negatively expressed (as is very likely in your case), Uranus can be rather unbalanced and downright crankish. And with Pisces and Sagittarius being so involved, it can lend a tendency towards, "believe in whatever sounds best to me, facts, grounding holistic logic, and evidence be danged".

Your implying that I'm unbalanced in these views or what not, was a projection dump from your own shadow onto me i.e. your chart very strongly indicates strong tendencies towards a crankish, extremest, arrogant (Uranus can be very arrogant, that Mars Saturn conunction in Sag closely opposed the ASC, and Scorpio South Node conjunct Scorpio Pluto, certainly speaks to something), and unbalanced expression.

This is why you are so into sources like the "Ra Material" which have almost no verification involved. The "yeah dude, it resonates with me man" is not enough for me. I like evidence, verification, holistic logic, i.e. stuff that actually implies some measure of objective truth.

And with your Scorpio South Node conjunct Scorpio Pluto, you're probably still unconsciously butt hurt that I called that source out and questioned it, even though I erased it and it happened awhile ago.

And Dumuzi? I happen to like Dumuzi AND have stood up for him before, so I will refrain from speaking ill of him, but I will note that he is not a paragon of balance and high attunement. When you spend that long so unbalancing your body-Temple through certain lifestyles, it is going to have negative side effects on your perception and various levels, even if the Soul within same is older and wiser.

This is why I've spent most of my life doing the exact opposite and treating the body-Temple with the respect, balance, etc it needs to express the Soul and Spirit the most clearly.

And if you think my words to you or him are strong and critical, you should see what my Teacher said to folks back in his day. I'm being a p@ssy cat in comparison.

posted December 11, 2020 03:47 PM            

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I agree with you - and perhaps I sounded more harsh than I am/intended - but I don't think it's possible to cut the cord since the love is the ultimate binder, and you can't cut that love since it is holding your own self together as much as it holds the relation together - cutting it is just not possible, and if your ego desires to do it your higher self will step in right away. It can't be done not because it would hurt but simply because it can't be done.
I had the desire to cut at a certain point but that was very short lived. Every time I made the 'decision' some sign showed up shortly afterwards that pulled me back to the love and acceptance.

In terms of GCE it's mostly my Piscean ways feeling something is off in the way he explains it. Rationally expressing this feeling is not my strong suit.
Obviously that does not mean I am right per default, but I've learned to trust rather than distrust my sensitivity, with caution. In any case I found your reply above to GCE to be very well put and on point with my perception. This is not to take away your wisdom GCE but I do get a sense of a lack of balance.

There may be a proximity soul-mesh wise and/or a deep karmic knot bound over multiple lifetimes, but from what I've gathered thus far the TF-interpretation does not resonate with me at all.

There is also a general mistake in bunching Twin Flame and Twin Soul together I just realized, where TF's are created at the same 'time' and have a journey together whereas TS's are the same soul deciding to divide itself and can amount to 3 maximum (trinity). Something like that.

I think GCE speaks of the latter rather than the former - possibly - which would explain the confusion, because I don't think TS's have the same kind of love-bond that TF's have.

The end point in any case for anyone is to develop your soul's capacity for love/wisdom as a unified field of vibrancy. The necessity for this increases as we are overdue for collective harvest, and this is why we see so much TF-stuff going on increasingly. The TF 'mission' or service to the collective as I understand it is to unite and through their unification provide a massive field of loving energy that can color-off on other souls so as to assist them to integrate this energy and become 'harvestable' or able to 'graduate' into higher density/frequency planes. TS's may not have the purpose of this specific joint-service.

<3

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Just noting for the record.

posted December 11, 2020 03:57 PM            

Freakishly enough, *my* Virgo Rising was also opposite *his* Pisces North Node!

And my Aries has also fallen in love with an utterly toxic and chaotic Sagittarius Sun (if I recall correctly, I feel you mentioned something similar happened with TS2?)

While I don't always comment, I have to say, when you discuss your past life dealings with your TS2, I find it very extremely illuminating and helps me understand a lot of the pre-programmed behavior between me and this Aries as well.

Those meditation techniques you mentioned to keep her energy out of your field are fascinating. I'll have to experiment with this. Every now and then I feel this desperate impulse to tap into his energy (something bad *for me* must be happening as these feelings arise). When his energy pulls away, mine desperately tries to cling to his. And vice versa. So envisioning black walls to protect me sounds like the best bet moving forward.

posted December 11, 2020 04:12 PM            

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What's wild Galactic is that your Aries and mine sound so insanely similar - they even share a fairly similar chart!...

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Yeah, that is odd indeed. And yes, her new beau is a Sag Sun. I kind of am loathe to use the strong word "toxic" in relation to him, but I do know that he is a sex addict, I do know that his spiritual beliefs/perceptions seem a bit shallow and vapid, and boy does he have a lot of "model'esque style" pictures of himself up on his social media. He seems to be what I sometimes call a "soft narcissist". Not harmful to others, but just really self focused and really living more of a projected, false image.

But, I think he is good to her for the most part, and that is something I appreciate. If he treats her well, that is what is important. They have a stronger resonation with each other on a personality level, than I do with her. I completely understand why she is more attracted to him on that level than to me.

Yeah, I know what you mean about the pull back. I feel those tugs at times. I think acceptance of the fact that there is a strong connection, and there will always be a strong connection whatever happens between your physical personalities, is kind of important. The more we try to shove these things down into the unconscious/shadow, the more strong it will actually become and then bite us in our butts later. I love her. Always have, always will, Lol, but I'm still going to shoot up those energetic walls.

I'm glad me writing about this helped you out some.

posted December 11, 2020 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
(@ Nomad-Monad) So how about in the future, rather than you discussing me personally and me discussing you personally, we go back to what I prefer--discussing the concepts, ideas, sources of information, etc more impersonally?

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Projection, right? Mirror mirror.

To be clear, what I referred to was the possibility that your interpretation could be wrong since my understanding of the TF dynamic does not match the Concepts, Ideas and Sources of information you use to base your story. Also note that I said possibility: I don't argue in terms of supposed absolute truths as you do. If you read it as a personal attack to the center of your ego, that is not my problem.

When I said I sensed something unbalanced, what I referred to was your self-righteous attitude, your tendency to put down everything that does not fit in your little box of assumed understanding, and to belittle some of those who somehow challenge your perception in favor of raising yourself as some kind of master black belt psychic guru.

To assume that either me or Dumuzi are somehow 'less' than you is revealing nothing but how you need to push others down in order to feel strong, rather than recognize the concern that is brought to your attention and deal with that concern as it was actually addressed.

Stating that Dumuzi is somehow 'less than you' because of his previous addiction is just a dick-move, and it fails to take into account the various intense experiences each soul happen to have decided to undergo in order to learn about life.

Your reading of me is also pretty off in the sense that it is un-nuanced and basically serves nothing but arguing in favor of your own rightness - it does not take into account several factors, the most important ones being context and the dynamic nature of transformative becoming.

And in terms of Ra Material, it is fine for me if it does not resonate with you, but I don't really think you have actually gone through it, and less so with an open mind. In fact, the piedestal you put Cayce on seem to cast a vast shadow on quite a lot of very valuable stuff, but just because it seems like 'shadow material' to you does not mean that the problem don't lie in the piedestal rather than the material. I am not centered on the Ra Material like you are on Cayce, so don't project that limiting attitude on me. I have plenty of other sources and I take none of them to be representative of some sort of dogmatic truth.

I will not pursue this any further, nor any other kind of discussion with you, because I don't see that we can actually gain anything from each other - be that out of unwillingness, inability, or non-necessity. You are however most welcome to surprise me in that department.

To round this all off, I will say again that none of this is to take away the understanding and wisdom you actually do have. My point is elucidating to you that your way of making assumptions, claiming your own greatness, and belittling those who do not agree with you, is indeed a sign of unbalance.

posted December 11, 2020 07:39 PM            

Did they give scientific data that wasn't known at the time but later proved to be true? Anything along those lines?

I have a knack for practicing open minded skepticism. I'm willing to look at any source if it's backed by holistic logic, evidence, and the like.

One of the few things that I remember automatically shooting down/poo pooing when I first heard of the concept, was David Icke's talking about Reptilian ET's. But then after, I realized, well "who knows" and asked guidance about it. To my surprise, not long after, my partner, a good friend of mine who is very psychic and consciously in touch with his guidance, and I all started to receive messages around the same time making the point that they both exist and meddle in human affairs (and have a very negative energy).

Anyways, it seems we have different conception of what twin souls and/or twin flames mean. I don't make a distinction, and my guidance and experiences so far, have only shown me that Cayce's work is accurate about this.

What would be the point of a Soul splitting in half to meet itself in the physical? That sounds mighty narcissistic and pointless to me. Oh look, it's me in another body, lets do the wild thang and help each other? No, it is differences that create friction, and its friction which stimulates or facilitates growth. You would learn little from an exact clone of yourself.

But a part of you that split off a long time ago and has evolved to be different, while still being very connected, that's going to be more interesting, more affecting, and more growth inducing, because there is enough both difference and yet core similarity to have that classic opposition "push pull" effect on each other that leads to balance and growth.

In that sense, twin souls are very much like the opposite Signs, which are both very different and yet very similar to each other. One Sign is a personal reflection and the other Sign, its opposite is a collective reflection.

posted December 11, 2020 08:10 PM            

Spoke rather confidently and/or authoritatively much of the time didn't he?

Was he unbalanced? Was he lacking in Love?

I'm not going to go into all the guidance messages from within and outside that I received over the years about and for self, except to sum up that they have nudged and prodded me into this Leo Rising with North Node in the 1st House, and ruler of chart in Capricorn approach.

I am by nature a more passive and introverted personality. I don't actually WANT to be in the role that I've been chosen and nudged into. It has taken A LOT of prodding over many years to get me to speak the way I do to others. It has taken a lot of messages about where I'm at energetically and getting the definite "go ahead and start teaching".

Because at the end of the day, I don't want to cause harm or facilitate distortion in relation to others.

But I will note this, true truth tellers like him, are often not much appreciated, except by a minority. Because they have a habit of saying things to people stuff like, "no, your beliefs are wrong, here is the correct belief/perception".

And yep, you and Dumuzi, on this subject happen to be off some. Note, I am not saying anything about your personal connection to your twin flame etc. I'm talking about the general concepts.

posted December 11, 2020 08:32 PM            

2 women and 3 men.

I had zero sexual/romantic attraction to either of the women, one of whom was relatively close to my age and fairly attractive (a black woman who was our housemate/tenant for awhile).

In both cases, the women felt like "sisters and friends" to me. This is what Bob Monroe was also told by his guidance as outlined in one of his books, that his Expanded self had a Soul in a female form incarnated at the same time/space cycle as him, and if they met "she would feel like a sister to you."

It would seem that Dumuzi's and N.M.'s definition of "Twin Flames" comes closer to the above than my concept of "Twin Souls".

Still not the same thing as a Soul splitting in two, but there is more similarity with two Souls coming from the same immediate Expanded self, than two Souls coming from two different but connected Expanded selves (my definition of "twin souls").

If I didn't have sexual, romantic attraction to the Soul from my immediate Expanded self that was incarnated in an attractive female body, why would I be romantically and sexually attracted to a literal split of my own Soul? It really just seems so narcissistic, and sounds like something only people like D.T. would be interested in. "Me, in a hot female body. Sounds Great, order me one from an attractive woman from Jyna [China]. We'll be the BEST couple ever. No one ever will be as attractive as myself in that hot female body. We're going to love me all day long."

posted December 11, 2020 09:50 PM            

i like GalacticCoreExplosion, nothing against him as a human, though i disagree with his views on this particular subject to some degree

i understand where his perspective comes from and why he sees things the way he does, and naturally when a person thinks they're right having an opposing view would make me wrong

@GalacticCoreExplosion i do disagree with applying 100% certainty to matters like this, but as i've said you can feel free to call these people whatever you'd like because ultimately all that matters is the connection exists and plays out the way it does (i do think there's generally a sexual component though in my experience)

i do think it comes off a little arrogant and you can speak down to people a bit though so i can see why this conversation is abrasive on all sides (i would assume this is in part due to your leo ascendant and being the sort of person who can come off this way myself at points and having a leo mercury i can sort of deal with that)

i actually don't agree with you about the drugs and so on, but this is something i'm very used to because in these sorts of circles there is that view at times

it's a little "i'm right and if you disagree you aren't as advanced as me" on a subject where definitive answers can not be found and subjective experiences can be taken with a grain of salt no matter whose experiences they are

that being said i'm not offended

@nomad_monad

when you've had the life i've had these things are commonplace and while my views are different, i know that other people approach these topics in a different way

i think you and i are roughly on the same page on a good deal of things though

all that being said 🤷‍♀️ i could be wrong, i could be right life goes on we all learn and grow the ways we're meant to and our individual experiences are intrinsic to that

how i view things now may change if new information presents itself in a way where my beliefs no longer fit, that's how i got to this point to begin with coming from being raised catholic to being agnostic and so on

posted December 11, 2020 11:02 PM            

There are plenty of things that I don't know and am not certain about. When it comes to those things, I either keep quiet, say I don't know, or if I think I may know but there is some question/non surety in my mind I say things like, I may be missing something but.., and if I'm wrong about something, I usually realize it fairly quickly and admit it. "oops, I was wrong, thank you for the information/correction"

But on things that I have received tons and tons of guidance messages, have had so many experiences with, had very deep, powerful, and affecting experiences with, etc, etc such as with this topic, then YES, I am firm and authoritative because I know beyond a doubt that I am perceiving correctly about it and when others are not. There are few things though, that I talk about in such a manner.

Anytime we engage in any kind of debate with another, really what is going on most of the time, is some part of us is asserting/believing that we think/know we are correct and that the other is incorrect to some degree. A good teacher and debater though, will try to stay impersonal and keep it about the subject/info/data/beliefs etc at hand, and use holistic logic, evidence, data, outer sources, etc to outline to the other how we are correct and the other is likely off.

Nothing wrong with that imo, if ones intentions are positive. I'm just self honest about where I'm really coming from with that. Many people's egos prevent them from looking at their true intentions clearly, directly, and honestly. Or admitting it to others. Why, because it's not really socially acceptable and our ego doesn't like to see itself. And yet many of us DO IT MUCH of the time. We do it with our partners, our children, our parents, we do it on forums, etc. Men seem to do it more often in more direct and aggressive ways. Women often do it in more subtle, insinuating, and indirect ways. But, almost all of us do it to some extent, at least some of the time. And if we don't do it out loud, then we do it in our heads (and that is energy, and thoughts ARE things and have some effect).

It only becomes a real problem when you start turning the focus to the person you are disagreeing with and start focusing on them personally, and judging/finding fault with them, rather than their perceptions, ideas, beliefs, etc.

Both you and Nomad-Monad started doing this with me, and that's when I started speaking more strongly and personally back. I don't care too much whether you disagree with my beliefs or not at the end of the day. Because it's an issue that I believe has some importance--especially a clear and accurate version, I will spend some time in impersonal debate about it. But, at the end of the day, I'm secure in my knowing, which is why I don't turn to the personal and judgmental unless it's to mirror it back to another doing it to me (and sometimes I don't even do that, plenty of times I ignore or like with our mutual "friend" S, I make a joke).

Because of my peculiar energy, I have a strong tendency to stir up peoples shadows I've noticed. I've been booted off lord knows how many forums, simply for speaking my mind in a strong, sincere, honest and direct, but impersonal way (i.e. sticking to the topics, beliefs, data, etc at hand).

But invariably, people have a powerful reaction to me personally, and often start attacking me in a personal way, when I just want to discuss or debate the information at hand.

It really is funny and surreal how extremely people react to me at times.

Considering Yeshua's life pattern, apparently this is one of the ways to know that one is a real teacher. Because it seems like the more Source and Love aligned a person, and the more they shine that out, the more people's egos/shadows react unconsciously to that, like they did with him.

I've experienced this shadow stirring up in others my whole life, even since I was a very small child, and even the many years when I rarely ever even talked. It was why I was bullied every year from K to 12. Most of those years, I just kept to myself and didn't speak to anyone, let alone spoke to others like I do now.

I have learned from others that I am danged if I do, and danged if I don't, and since Expanded Guidance has literally asked and prodded me to teach, I figure well if I'm going to catch heck from people no matter what I do, don't do, say or don't say, then may as well be danged for the active doing and saying.

At the end of the day, I have nothing but real Love in my heart for others. I'm pretty sure that you have felt/sensed this love from me. And even in my disagreeing with or criticism of others, I'm often coming from a place more attuned to Love than not.

Twin Souls is a VERY loaded subject. There is A LOT of misconceptions out there being promoted by less than ethical people in the New Age business/profit scene. I have nothing to sell but truth as I see it. And in this case, because of the huge amount of guidance messages, experiences, synchronciities, etc, etc. I am quite sure about what is really going on.

I'm trying to bring to light a more accurate, balanced, helpful understanding of Twin Souls, because of all the distortion and b.s. out there, which a lot of people are getting caught up in and in ways that have real potential for harm or limiting/distorting effects.

You know what is the one thing that all nonphysical guidance most wishes for humans/us? That we would go deeply within and directly commune with real, Expanded Guidance more and more, rather than listening to this or that outer source. Because humans/humanity are awash on a sea of distorted dogma/false beliefs with a rudderless and sail-less boat. This is the primary reason why humanity is such a suffering mess. We tend to listen to the more distorted voices outside (and inside, because that can include our own ego) of us, rather than the freeing ones inside or outside of us.

If we all listened primarily to our own internal, true guidance, this world would be very, very, very different. It would be a world of enLightened, loving, joyful,radiantly healthy beings. There are entire other worlds out there filled with entire species like this! Beings at harmony with themselves, each other, and creation. But not humans!

And every once in awhile, during critical periods of much change and transformation, Expanded Guidance sends in one of their own to act as a captain or mast outlook/spotter and say, "turn the wheel left, turn it right, there's an iceberg ahead, land ahoy, there's a rock to the right". But, for these, it is mostly a thankless job that usually leads to the murder, banishment, and/or imprisonment of the one sent in. Human history has shown that humanity is very good at, and fixed, in that way.

posted December 12, 2020 12:09 AM            

i understand your experiences have brought you to this conclusion over the course of years, though i also understand that sometimes we're pointed in a certain direction and faith in it is important to get us to the next step only to have our course change a bit from there and so on

and because i wholeheartedly believe that i expect that one day one of us may change their mind, but because i disagree with you i'm inclined to think you'll be the one to do it 😉

but from the beginning i've stated that i may be wrong i can only go based on my own experiences and understanding and i take everyone's experiences into consideration but all with a grain of salt including my own

confidence can easily come off as arrogance when our word choices aren't on point, that's why i mentioned the leo factor, it's something i understand well

subtleties in language can change a lot, though yes there's also individual perception

my one issue was your assumptions, i do take those personally because i have very real issues with people perceiving me and my views etc incorrectly (to some degree this is trauma based, having things projected onto me is extremely uncomfortable for a good deal of reasons) and well they were assumptions about my thoughts

and for me that's where the line was crossed from confidence to arrogance in your words, not your belief in your experiences but your assumptions about mine and my thoughts

because i have a personal 98% sure rule and don't ever shut myself off at 100 for margin of error i can personally find absolute certainty off balance

this is something that obviously someone can disagree on

and is that a reflection of a shadow to some degree? yes, though i'd argue it wasn't just mine that was showing here

i am personally experiencing quite a bit with this topic currently though it has come up at other points in my life as well, and i respond based on that knowledge

i'm well aware of what it is to have people project and to pull things out of people myself, just part of the nature of these sorts of things

people react strongly to certain energies regardless

i'm not here to teach personally, bit of a different path through all the stuff that lies ahead (which i've known was coming for years now) but still many synchronicities plenty of guidance etc and so on

however i'm not done baking 🤷‍♀️

and i'm aware that's why i said i don't take the word of man for the word of god. there's far more knowledge that can be picked up from sources other than books and so on

the things that stay with us and are available when we connect more deeply to the source and pull things back

a lot of people are here because of what's coming, but you know that already

teachers are not infallible however, and can always still learn 😁 no one's done baking quite yet we have some time to go

i came off harsher than i intended to last night (which is why i apologized in my first post) due to stress that had absolutely nothing to do with you, but i could feel that my energy and words were affected by it

so i'm sorry again for that, pretty much anyone would have gotten hit with that in a lengthy disagreement

but it really wasn't you, i've just got a lot to sort through and can't always keep it from bleeding out, i thought because i caught it right there maybe you wouldn't get the wrong impression but 🤷‍♀️ i think i may have done that a bit anyway given the shadow side talk

my bad, wasn't you

on the subject of drug use and so on, that's all dependent on what energies we're connected to and reaching for

all paths are not alike, and there are definitely many where the things i have done would not be ok, but there is definitely at least one where it's essential