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appleberry
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posted November 27, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems like there's a lot of people out there who are struggling with the basics of Horary (as I did once as well), so here are some detailed instructions on how to create a Standard Horary Chart, which is different from a Standard Natal Chart, and also instructions on how to upload images. Please *bump* this post whenever necessary..

Checklist here, detailed instructions below:
(This is just for a standard chart - there are other ways, but this is the most common,
so it is the best place for newbies to start.)

Sorry if it's annoying, but I thought it best to make some very basic instructions...


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HOW TO MAKE A HORARY CHART:
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1. www.astro.com (you should have your own free account)

2. select MY ASTRO

3. select ADD NEW ASTRO DATA

4. first name= write your horary question here if you like/ choose EVENT/ all the other 'birth' information is the exact time and place that you asked the horary question

NOTE: A horary chary is a natal chart for the question. The moment you fully formulate the question you write down the natal information, as if the question itself is a newborn baby. There should only be one chart with a specific question for horary. It is better if it is a yes/no question in positive sentence structure.

5. continue and on the next page you are taken to select FREE HOROSCOPES

6. select EXTENDED CHART SELECTION

7. on the Extended Chart Selection page, choose the following options:
-Horoscope for: your horary question
-type of chart: Natal
-drawing style: Astrodienst Style (works best for me)
-House System: REGIOMONTANUS (the most typical system for horary charts)

- Additional objects: PART OF FORTUNE is very benefic in horary. I haven't read anything about anything else helping, except for other Arabic Parts. Putting all of the other asteroids can be too much. They don't really offer information that is reliable and too many objects makes the chart too small and hard to read. "Less is more" in this case.


-MEAN NODE and SOME FIXED STARS give necessary information in Horary. <<< Many people are missing this one. True node isn't reliable, and fixed stars add more info to the chart>>>

Thank you LostSoulRebecca for the following image!

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Again, that's just how I do it, based on what I have learned so far... there might be others who can add more info, give another or better way... but this way at least gets the chart done.

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How to Take a Screenshot
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First you must have a copy of the image you wish to upload on your computer desktop. The easiest way to do this is just take a 'SCREENSHOT' (If you use a Mac, all you need to do is press these three keys all at the same time: [SHIFT & COMMAND & 4 ], which creates a large '+' on your computer. Press down and hold on the lower left corner of the mouse pad with one finger, and use the other finger on the mouse pad as well to select the area you wish to take a snapshot of. The snapshot will automatically save to wherever your Mac is set to save images.

For a PC, the instructions are: To take a screen shot and save it as a picture. Click the window you want to capture. Press Alt+Print Screen by holding down the Alt key and then pressing the Print Screen key. The Print Screen key is near the upper-right corner of your keyboard.

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How to Upload Photos from Photobucket
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1. Go to: http://www.photobucket.com

2. Create an account.

3. In the upper left corner, find and click on the tab for "Library".

4. This will open a page where you can 'drag & drop' the photo. Using one finger click on the image you wish to choose, hold down the mouse pad, and another finger to use the mouse pad to drag the image to the photobucket drop area.

5. Once the photo is dropped into the correct area, click on that uploaded photo (it will be a small thumbnail).

6. The new page should show the same image larger, with a panel to the right offering: Email/Direct/HTML/IMG. Copy paste the IMG selection, which starts with: (see below) Copy the entire IMG selection, then Paste that entire section into the typing area of your post on this site. Once you submit the post, that copy/paste will become an actual image.

UPDATE:
It should be one that starts and ends with this:

[IMG]http://_________
________.jpg[/IMG]


(PS: If you delete the image from Photobucket, it will not appear on Lindaland any longer.)

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Planetary Hour Calculator:
http://www.astrology.com.tr/planetary-hours.asp
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Hope this at least helps some people!
People enjoy answering horary questions, or at least giving it a good try... but you're less likely to get a correct answer without a proper viewable chart, so it's important to learn how.


HERE ARE THE LEARNING HOW TO READ HORARY LINKS:
Here are some threads with more to help you follow along and learn more:

*Links*
Topic: ** Links ** (Good for Newbies and Beyond...) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000550.html


*Discussions*
Topic: Interpreting Horary Charts [discussion for learners and advanced] http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000521.html
Topic: * * * Discussing the Houses * * * http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000560.html

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posted November 30, 2014 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great idea, appleberry!! I will bump this from time to time so that everyone sees it.

Thank you for helping our little community!

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posted December 16, 2014 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Great idea, appleberry!! I will bump this from time to time so that everyone sees it.

Thank you for helping our little community!


My Pleasure!

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2014 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding! Moving a copy of this to the LL Reference Library.

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posted January 03, 2015 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad it might be useful...

I see a lot of charts up that I wonder if that's just how they prefer to do their horary charts, or they don't quite know how it's done.

Sometimes I open peoples questions only to find they have posted a type of chart that I never choose to read, and then I see them continue to bump their question wondering why no one is reading, and sometimes I wonder if no one answers just because it's not a standard horary chart...

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Hi appleberry, you seem to be extremely passionate about the use of Regiomontanus charts over Placidus... why is this?

What are the key differences between both?

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posted January 08, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this. I didn't know we needed a different type of chart and I've been using same that I use for natals. Opps!

I hope that means that the "no job for me" answers are wrong and I WILL get a job! LOL

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posted January 08, 2015 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lily used Regiomontanus for Horary and his rules are my standard/"go to rules"so that's a main reason I use it.

Plus, for a while, I tried using other house systems -- making more than one chart for each question, answering each question separately for each chart. When the answers differed, it was ALWAYS my Regiomontanus charts that turned out to be the ones with the most accurate and correct answers... so it didn't take long for me to abandon the other house systems.

The reason I put it on here is because many people complain that their charts are not being read or answered by people, and that could be the reason people aren't answering the charts - most people seem to use Lily's system, at least in part, so the likelihood that they will be okay with reading Regiomontanus is higher than the likelihood of finding people that will read Placidus or Whole house...

Sure, put your charts up in whatever system you prefer - some people will read your chart if it is Whole sign or Placidus, not every one avoids them - but know that there is a possibility that they will be skipped by potential readers because the reader doesn't read/trust that house system for horary.

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posted January 17, 2015 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 03, 2015 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 10, 2015 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 25, 2015 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 27, 2015 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DreamCatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is great! I was just searching for to try & understand horary! Perfect timing

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posted February 27, 2015 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DreamCatcher:
This is great! I was just searching for to try & understand horary! Perfect timing

Here are some threads with more to help you follow along and learn more:

*Links*
Topic: ** Links ** (Good for Newbies and Beyond...)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000550.html


*Discussions*
Topic: Interpreting Horary Charts [discussion for learners and advanced]
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000521.html
Topic: * * * Discussing the Houses * * *
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000560.html


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posted March 08, 2015 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHY LESS IS MORE IN A HORARY CHART:

In Horary, the chart is read in parts but also as a whole. You get a worse reading when things are obstructing the view.

Imagine it's a movie we're watching but people keep standing up and blocking the screen, causing you to miss important parts of the film - then when it's over, you have an overall impression, but you may have missed a very important part that would have added so much to your memory of the movie, or possibly changed your entire view of a character, scene or the film itself.

Putting in additional objects that won't be read, won't give you more information - they might even end up giving you less.


A basic list of things that can offer information in a horary chart are:


Traditional Planets/Luminaries: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. (Modern: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron - can be added, and can add additional information, but are not necessary in a horary chart).

The Part of Fortune, Mean Node, Fixed Stars, and Descending Node can all offer valuable information that may be used to answer your particular question. You may not want to include them, but they can help.

Other points, objects, and asteroids are better left out of a posted chart that you are asking others to read. Keep it simple, so that a higher number of people will enjoy reading the chart.

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posted March 09, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
appleberry, if it helps, I created this picture-tutorial about how to created horary chart according to your instructions above.

If you want to, you can add this picture to your explanation above. After that this post of mine can be deleted.

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posted March 15, 2015 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Thank you for your contribution, by the way :-)

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posted March 31, 2015 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 15, 2015 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 18, 2015 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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posted May 10, 2015 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 25, 2015 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 22, 2015 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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