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Randall
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posted October 02, 2004 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Sometimes they still have copies of out-of-print books.

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posted October 02, 2004 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Are we not allowed to promote his book? The name of the website and the book got blocked out. I'm assuming it's a personal thing, between you and Dan Hall, so I won't ask any further.

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posted October 02, 2004 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Just to prevent him from SPAMing us by making many repeat Posts all over the Forums.

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posted October 02, 2004 10:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I see. I read a few excerpts from his website about food and health, and what can I say, I was very astounded. I could sense truth over some of what he was saying in regards to how we are supposed to eat. It's a very rational and logical system, it's something that everyone can do, and it doesn't require us to eliminate or to sacrifice certain foods, but to change a lot in regards to combining what we eat, and at what hour of the day. I really believe what he says, and for someone like me who can't be a vegitarian right now, I want to pick up his book and try it. Fruit in the morning, a veggie salad at noon, nuts for a snack, and pasta for dinner, who can argue with that?

P.S. I don't consider myself very healthy in regards to what I eat, but I don't suffer from the many ailments attributed to unhealthy eating, I guess I'm just lucky, except for the pesky asthma, but that doesn't mean I should be lazy.


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posted October 02, 2004 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Fit For Life 2 has a lot of good diet info, especially about food combining.

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posted October 02, 2004 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I really think he hit it on the nail with food combining, and I really think it's the root of the problem with America's unhealthiness. Who isn't guilty of combining meat with bread? How about fish and chips? Unfortunately, I just got home from work, and my parents left me with a meat covered pizza, I was like yummy, but I just couldn't finish all of it, because I really want to change my way of eating. I think Dan Hall's book has the answer.


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posted October 02, 2004 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
It's not his answer. Food combining has been around for decades. It sounds like it makes sense, but is it really true or just pseudoscience? I think what is really wrong with America's unhealthiness is too much soda and fast food. We know that saliva begins to break down all food into both starch and sugar, so it can be easily digested. The idea that if you eat a starch with a protein, the protein will not digest and will rot in the stomach just doesn't hold water IMHO; nor does the idea that fruit will rot if not eaten alone. The science suggests otherwise. But Dan has some great ideas mixed in with the kooky ones. I do think some of what he tells others can be very dangerous to their health, although food combining isn't harmful. Here is some interesting info about both sides of the food combining argument: http://www.the-vu.com/food_combining.htm

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posted October 02, 2004 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Is Fit For Life 2 written by Harvey Diamond, and Marilyn Diamond?

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posted October 02, 2004 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it is (they are now divorced). I don't like their assertions about food combining, but they do reveal a lot of damaging information about the meat and dairy industries and support their arguments very well with the doctors' very own medical journals.

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posted October 02, 2004 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Very interesting, I guess I'm ignorant about these things, so what is a proper diet? Eating lots of fruits and vegetables, and making sure you get the proper amount of vitamins and minerals? Is that it, then why didn't you say so? I still think Yoga and meditation are the top keys to healthy living as well as a gradual vegitarian diet outlined by Linda Goodman. I want to live a disease free life how can I do that? Do I just believe?

I agree Randall, I gave up soda a long time ago, I haven't drunk the stuff in a very long time. Fast food is another story, I admit I eat the burger and fries, but I throw away the soda. I've also indulged in a few yummy candy bars.

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posted October 02, 2004 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message
So what's your take on a healthy diet, if food combining is a myth, what will really work? Also what kind of bad stuff about the meat and dairy industries that I should know about?

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posted October 03, 2004 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I personally think each individual is different, but in a general sense the human body has nutrition requirements it needs in order to function properly. Since farming has depleted the soil of most of its mineral content (we only replenish three minerals that make the crops grow and "look" healthy), a true balanced diet is near impossible to attain. In today's age, supplementation is almost a must. I would suggest limiting from diet fruits and vegetables from any source that you personally did not choose/prepare, as the benefits are overshadowed by the pesticide residue that accumulates in the body over time. Rarely are fruits and vegetables washed sufficiently in restaurants. The fat-laden steak may actually be healthier than the salad. Ultimately, everyone should listen to their own body about what foods are best. Supplementation should also be individually tailored, although we all need ample amounts of selenium and zinc, two of the main minerals depleted in our soil. Since everyone's diet varies (as does their own individual maladies), deficiencies will widely differ.

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What if the fruits and vegetables are packaged organically? Also there is something about supplementation I'd like to add, there are nearly thousands of pills on the market, but very few really work, as they tend to give half the vitamins and minerals than they say they do. What would you recommend to a girl who is finishing her last year in high school? My mom does try to give me daily vitamin pills, to see if I'll gain any weight, but I feel unsafe about taking them. I don't know if it would just be polluting my body, and giving me too much of a good thing. Also I don't want to throw off my body chemistry, and become over wieght. What kind of vitamin pills do you take, and what should I probably take? One note, I might follow your inquiry.

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posted October 03, 2004 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I'm going to talk to my pediatrician about it. I'm due for a check up soon anyway. I still get to have him until I turn 21. He's cool, he's a Taurus who knows astrology.

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What is so bad about Mcdonalds? All you're eating is a burger with vegetables and some type of sauce they use, and then you're just eating fries that is fried in vegetable oil. Of course you should not be eating it everyday, but it's not so bad once in a while. The only thing that makes me feel sick, is when I used to drink the large soda they give you with the meal. Also, I have to question the type of meat they use, if you eat the meat without the accompaniments you would realize that it doesn't taste like meat should taste like.

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posted October 03, 2004 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
If you ate several servings of fresh organic fruits and vegetables (at least some of which are raw and uncooked), you would probably have everything your body needs (including many enzymes and phytochemicals). Organic is not just pesticide-free, but it also grown in replenished and sustainable healthy soil.

I just take zinc every other day, copper every other day (the two should be taken separately as they inhibit the absorption of each other), selenium, folic acid, and Omega 3 fatty acids. Copper deficiency adversely affects elasticity of blood vessels, so supplementation helps to prevent strokes. Selenium does so much good, I could not list it all. Every day new studies come out about the benefits of selenium. A deficiency can cause cardiomyopathy (most heart attacks are actually muscular dystrophy of the heart muscle caused by insufficient selenium). Immune response is directly related to zinc. People with thrush (a very stubborn yeast/fungi infection on the mouth and/or tongue) fight with this often; however, a zinc supplement permanently knocks it out in only a day or two. Omega 3 is a miracle-worker in the preventative category. Multi supplement pills probably have all the problems you describe--plus harsh fillers. I take each thing I feel my body needs separately.

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posted October 03, 2004 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
The thing about Mickey D's and the like is that people eat it frequently and don't supplement; plus they are getting too much of the unhealthy type of fats. Omega 3 helps to neutralize the bad fats. It also makes the cell walls more permeable, so the waste can get out. As a female you will need calcium/magnesium (especially if you eat meat) and also iron (stay away from ferrous sulfate, which is nothing more than rust and is harsh on the stomach). It's actually healthier to be a couch potato and supplement than it is to be very active and not supplement. Athletes who appear to be in perfect physical condition sometimes drop dead of heart attacks, because trace minerals are lost in sweat (not just sodium), and if they are not replenished through diet or supplementation, the stress on the heart is too much.

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Yes, my mother tried to make me take daily multi vitamin pills, and I felt it wasn't right.

Fortunately, there is a growing movement in eating only organic grown food. There markets coming out that only offer organically grown food. Thank god.

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posted October 03, 2004 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Did you go to a supplement store and only buy single types of minerals and vitamins?

So drinking milk everyday doesn't cut it anymore does it? My Human Anatomy teacher scared me with the notion that it's good to be a meat eater before the age of 25 to help prevent osteoporisis? Should I just take Calcium supplements?

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Oh my mom said that her doctor told her to take multi vitamin pills everyday as well as calcium supplements.

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posted October 03, 2004 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
We are not by our nature meat-eaters, but the human body adapts. Calcium is leeched from the bones to deal with the immediate needs (digesting the meat we just ate). I'm not sure what your teacher is referring to. People who eat meat sparingly have little calcium requirements. Supplementation is probably the only way to get the calcium you need if you eat meat more than a few times per week and are a female. Try to take a 2:1 ratio of calcium to magnesium. Stay away from calcium carbonate, which is just chalk--cheap to produce, but not easily absorbed). The best sources are liquid caps or powder-filed caps. Magnesium neutralizes stomach acid, so calcium/magnesium should be taken on an empty stomach (preferably at night before bed). Magnesium relaxes muscles, so it will give you a great night's rest. Most other supplements should be taken after a meal. Do you frequently have back aches? That often indicates a marginal calcium deficiency.

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posted October 03, 2004 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message
No, I have no back ache, but I just recently noticed white spots on two of my nails, I think I read that it means something from you, but I forgot?

I consume a lot of milk, water, orange juice, and also I eat a lot of cheese which I figure is a good source of calcium. I figured that it would be enough for me so once again I'll have to ask my doctor about it. My occasional fruits are bannanas, apples, and oranges. I even told my mother to start buying almonds instead of peanuts.

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posted October 03, 2004 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I do get tired very easily, but I blame it on boredom, and usually I suffer the occasional light headedness when I get up. I've even had hot spells, where all of a sudden my body will heat up, and I feel like vomiting, and the only thing I can do is pour water over my head so I can cool down, and my body returns back to normal. But it's probably because I didn't eat enough before I went to bed and slept. I don't figure that's very healthy.

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posted October 03, 2004 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message
My mother takes Citracel, Calcium Citrate supplements, the bottle says it fights osteoporisis and has high absorption.

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posted October 03, 2004 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I think my teacher is referring to how meat is the only good source of protein. Also how protein is essential for good bone health.

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