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AcousticGod
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posted November 10, 2005 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My Capricornian tactics don't always work either, so when I'm in the right mood I respond. I've always thought about what I would say, so I always have something prepared in the back of my mind.

Her: "I can't believe you can sleep so late."

Me: "What time is it? Noon? Is it that early? I'm going back to bed...please try to keep it down." or "I'd have slept later, but you woke me up."

Her: "You're at it again?"

Me: "Yeah, don't you have your own tv?" or "Yeah, some people watch tv when they're eating lunch." or "Do you really need to comment on everything I do?"

Her: "Are the dishes in the dishwasher clean?"

Me: "Did you look? or "No, I stopped washing them and just left them in the sink for you so you wouldn't be confused." or "When you lick the plate do you taste food or soap?" or "Are the glasses clear?" or "Is the door dirty or clean?" or (Considering what we know about her) "Does it make a difference? You're just going to re-wash them anyway." ( I could go on forever on this one.)

Her: "you forgot to wring out the dishsponge, thats a high crime in my court"

Me: "This isn't your court, and I could care less --they're unsanitary anyway."

Her: "Did you wash this or that?"

Me: "Nope" (walks away) or "Why don't you look?" or "Do I nag/pester you about things?" or "You need to rely less on me and more on yourself. I'm not here to serve you."

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 10, 2005 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
AG Those are all good! I always think of comebacks way after the fact. Sometimes I think back to things that happened 10 years ago and think of comebacks, must be the scorpio moon.

Control freak, self centered, verbal genius, has studied astrology, no real friends...c'mon guys you can get this one!

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lioneye68
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posted November 10, 2005 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Hate to say it, but...

SCORPIO

(of the unevolved variety, no doubt)

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 10, 2005 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Nope but you got the fixed right

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AcousticGod
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posted November 10, 2005 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My next guess wasn't going to be a fixed sign.

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lioneye68
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posted November 10, 2005 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Well, then - perhaps Pluto conjunct a personal planet or a Scorpio moon or rising? They are the ultimate controllers of the zodiac, afterall.

Aquarius? But they have alot of freinds usually. And don't really care about the state of their house too much.

Her dry personality kind of seems Saturn-like too, so maybe Capricorn is in the mix somewhere?

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 10, 2005 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Ya theres some cap and pluto, but the sun is aquarius...aquarians i think only appear to have friends but are often loners...maybe not!

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AcousticGod
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posted November 11, 2005 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
That's really weird. I so often think of Aquarians as being jovial, and I've generally seen Sags and Aquas get along pretty well.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 11, 2005 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
I think the joviality is a facade...mots of the aquarians i've gotten close to are pretty miserable

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lovely*
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posted November 11, 2005 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
i was going to guess aqua too. i lived iwth two female aquas at the same time, the craxiest one was aqua sun; leo moon and aqua asc.. the other was more like me virgo moon; cancer asc. I was neutral but I do know...

aquas need to live alone. you should follow lioneyes method/advice/reverse psychobabble

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Philbird
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posted November 11, 2005 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
You could take her rock climbing...

I believe we get what we ask for, maybe karmically. Not that you intentenally ask for abuse, but in my life I see how I used to let people go too far. Now that I'm a little older, I realize I deserve better so it seems that I subconsciously repel people who are abusive, and attract mature people.
Maybe better wording of your concerns:

Her: Did you empty the dish washer?
You: why don't you come home and look for yourself!
OR
You: PERHAPS we can discuss this when you get home.

Using unaccusatory words usually repels blame. The trick is to back off emotionally.

Any help?

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 11, 2005 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
LOL rock climbing, I think i get your drift...

Aquas do need to live alone, most of the ones i've met are great at gatherings/parties, but when you get around them intimately its scary. Maybe this is a stereotype.

I'm sure I attracted this into my life, I'm a total pushover, my dad and brother were abusive and if I ever stood up I was immediately smacked down, so I've learned to just never stand up and run instead.

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1scorp
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posted November 11, 2005 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
I had to laugh at AG's remarks.

Those are the same responses I would have.

Blue: Try not to let her get to you.

I'm all for trying to get along... but really... asking if the dishes in the dishwasher are clean? Does she not have enough common sense to figure that one out on her own?

Eeesshh, it's pretty bad when you can't even feel comfortable or find peace in your home.
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Libra moon, pluto and asc.

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Yin
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posted November 11, 2005 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
OMG, my worst roommates were Aquas! My worst bosses, my worst colleagues... My best friend I thought at the time hasn't spoken to me in ten years despite all my efforts - an Aqua.
The latest backstab at work came from an Aqua woman with a Scorpio Rising. What is going on?! I thought Sag and Aqua are supposed to get along. Oh, well!

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sue g
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posted November 11, 2005 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh BR

How horrible for you. I would hate this, really I would. Mmmm hard to know what to do. I think maybe I would have to tell her how you feel and ask her to take yer feelings into consideration....if she persists in making things bad, I would look around for something else......i feel its so important to be happy where you live !!!!

Alternatively tell her to go **** herself and throw her things out of the window....

Errr the last option I would leave as a very last resort.....hahahahhaha....

And of course there is always black magic.....

Good luck and I hope you get this resolved....

If I can help at all.........

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Hexxie
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posted November 11, 2005 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hexxie     Edit/Delete Message
BlueRoamer - What a great learning experience this is for you! It is so difficult when we're 'in' it but I know once you've worked through this karma you'll be so much stronger! You even said it yourself, that you 'attracted this into your life' so that you'll learn to stand up and assert yourself and not run! End the circle here I know i've said this before somewhere here in Lindaland, but 'All the world is a stage and we are but actors...' Shakespeare had it right! Do Not take what she's doing to you personally. It is an illusion! She is only there for the sole purpose to help you grow. You chose this! It's all ok, and it's all good. If things are to 'heavy' in your home, then (if you're allowed heh) burn some inscense to clear any negativity. I also suggest that you buy yourself a piece of Black Tourmaline. It is very grounding, and it doesen't allow any negativity to stay in your field of energy! It forces it into the ground to be recycled Hope that my luney ways make sense and help you! Let us all know what happens! Try and stay positive and 'blast' her with love!!

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 11, 2005 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Yin: Yeah I dunno about aquas sometimes, I've never had a good experienced with them! Actually there was one, but I didn't get to know her intimately.

Sue: LOL maybe Ill throw HER out the window. Hmm I've already done some white magic for protection/improving the energy, i dunno about crossing that line kinda goes against my beliefs!

Hexxie!!! You understand my viewpoint perfectly, this is exactly how I feel, I did invite this in to learn a lesson. But she invited me in to learn a lesson too! Your post gave me the chills because it resonated so strongly with me

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AcousticGod
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posted November 11, 2005 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I think the joviality is a facade...most of the aquarians i've gotten close to are pretty miserable

Reminds me of some lyrics by an Aquarian (my favorite Aquarian singer):

Brave face, and English illusion
Stiff lips soft and creamy inside
I'm hip to your pain and confusion
You can't tell how much suffering
On a face that's always smiling

I swore I would always be with you
But now I'm afraid of your tears
I fear that you might take me with you
You can't tell how much suffering
On a face that's always smiling


I've grinned my way through beatings
I've smiled my way through school
But underneath this grinning
Is the sadness of the fool
No longer know my feelings
Been fooling for too long
Borne of desperation in an effort to look strong
Look strong, look strong
Hey there monkey face you look so strong


That joke could crack you with laughter
Release from the edge of despair
Success is the god that I'm after
In jokes, I'm a millionaire
You can't tell how much suffering
On a face that's always smiling

- You Can't Tell How Much Suffering On A Face That's Always Smiling, James (the band), Tim Booth (the singer)

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angel_of_hope
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posted November 11, 2005 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
AG those are hillarious!

I'm like you, BR, i think of the comebacks "way' after the fact. My Aries bf on the other hand, i swear hes gota list of em in his head, just waiting to be put ot good use. He is so quick witted. Although his father and step father are the same way, maybe thats where he gets it from.

Funny, i was watching Seinfeld yesterday and it was the one where George is trying to find the perfect comeback ... "The jerk store called, they're running outta you" - lol. But at the end, he thinks of the perfect comeback as hes driving home from work and actually turns the car around to go back to work to tell the guy! lol.

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posted November 11, 2005 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
LOL the ocean called they're running out of shrimp....I HAD SEX WITH YOUR WIFE

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AcousticGod
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posted November 11, 2005 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
The most brutal comeback I thought of for the dishwasher one is:

"Why don't you take a fork out and stick it in your eye? If it gets infected in a few days, you'll know they're dirty."

I could never, ever say that, though.

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angel_of_hope
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posted November 11, 2005 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
*ahem* His wifes in a coma

OMG - AG - thats a bad one. I dont think i could ever say something like that to anyone either. Maybe if i was really really provoked, but even then i dont think i could!

at taking her Rock climbing! (i just now saw that - so, im a lil slow!!-lol)

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posted November 11, 2005 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message
Aquarius Defender to the Rescue!

Naaah, I'm not really defending her. Just thought I could give you an insider Aqua point of view- seeing that you will have to live with her for a while it may help to "understand where she's coming from" (although, personally, I would just run away from such a scary person).
Luckily I have Libra rising, I think it gives me the tact and manners that a lot of fellow water bearers lack. (I'm very nice to flatmates! I swear!)
Being fixed and being very eccentric and all that gives a lot of us this strange type of existence where we are essentially in another universe. In her universe, asking some of the ridiculous questions she does is perfectly natural. To her it must make PERFECT sense that she would call you in the middle of the day to ask if the dishes are clean. Now- the only solution for this type of behaviour is to act as if all of your habits and eccentricites are also perfectly normal; you could even adopt some slightly annoying ones just to have some fun.
This challenges the Aquarian hypocracy of "live and let live... but really, I mean let me live and you live the way I live too". You know what I'm sayin'?

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 11, 2005 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
AG LOL, only in my dreams could I ever say anyting like that...

WhiteRabbit: YES, its all true, to her its all about logic, if it makes sense in her head it must make sense to everyone else too right? WRONG. PS She has a libra rising too. Shes very tactful about the critcisms, such that you dont' feel them burning till 5-10 mintues later. The tone of her voice is alwasy so reasonable how could you argue??

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posted November 11, 2005 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hooked     Edit/Delete Message
well BR, I'm sorry this is still going on. You know my advice already.

My husband is an aqua with a saggie moon, same as your freakish roommate. He is the BIGGEST hypocrite when it comes to tidyness around the house. He parks his motorcycle IN THE LIVING ROOM to keep it from being stolen, but will gripe at me about leaving my socks on the floor in the same room.

It used to bother me, but I've figured out what makes him stop. Whatever he says, I just say right back to him - I learned this trick from him. If he says "could you put your socks in the hamper" I say, "could you put your socks in the hamper?" It seems weird, but I just say it in the same tone right back and kind of smirk. It never fails, you should try it.

Remember when I lived with that sorority girl aries with the virgo moon? Now that was entertaining

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