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tuxedo meow
Knowflake Posts: 878
From: Texas Gulf Coast, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 01, 2006 11:43 PM
 
In Texas over 53o/o of all social services were cut a few years back- there are few dual diagnosis centers- One usually MUST have at least a mailing address and zipcode to get help- once people are homeless 2yrs they usually do not want to go back- i am on the boards of two agencies that help other agencies intermingle and share and learn about resources. i have been on the "business" side of shelters, soup kitchens, etc, and generally they are corrupt and dangerous. If you work in one and do not realize this you are naive. Of course, in your sincerity you ARE making a big difference to the homeless and others. Knowing their names and saying their name in greeting is like gold to some. The most corrupt are the paid workers- I have seen shelter/lunchrooms literally torturing mentally needy folks and turning a blind eye at the beginning of the month (when any SS or SSI checks and meds come in) to the poor souls being robbed and beaten for their money and medicine! No $ no meds = a hard time. Also some panhandlers are forced into it by a pimp style person or gang. They better make their quota! Also, helpless people get threatened by gangs or their SO's do unless they deal and run drugs for gangs. If they don't they can die, be beaten, raped, or watch it happen to whomever they care about- who cares, another bum? I call them CEMENT ROSES, by the way, a non political term, no? In the process they become addicts and can be further manipulated and maybe addict the SO then have two slaves until they die, go crazy, or end up in prison- well enuff SAID of course this doesn't apply to all but should be A WAKE UP CALL to the folks who live encased in rubber and steel six inches above the road of life?IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
Moderator Posts: 3521
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted November 02, 2006 12:19 AM
I don't remember where I read this, but I found a bit of wisdom that said we aren't meant to judge a homeless person/addict, we aren't meant to think they "deserve it" or think that they "don't deserve it" because we have no idea what kind of lessons/experiences they are meant to have on their individual paths. We are simply meant to have compassion.
I think this is easier said than done, like a lot of enlightened behavior. I think that many with severe drug addictions have lost much of their soul, in a manner of speaking, which causes the loss of empathy etc. HSC cross mentioned. Everyone likes to help someone appreciative and grateful, rather than rude and uncaring...
Interesting conversation everyone.  IP: Logged |
lovely*
Knowflake Posts: 2141
From: CA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted November 02, 2006 12:42 AM
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Also some panhandlers are forced into it by a pimp style person or gang. They better make their quota! Also, helpless people get threatened by gangs or their SO's do unless they deal and run drugs for gangs. If they don't they can die, be beaten, raped, or watch it happen to whomever they care about- who cares, another bum?
Tuxedo, it's naive to believe these folks are just plucked off the street against thier will. They obviously have a debt to pay. They've stollen or bought drugs they couldn't pay for. Too bad. Don't mistake my tough love approach as indifference. I'm very touched over this issue, particularly when children are involved. Homeless children are the real victims. They have absolutely no choice in the matter. Adults do. Also, I don;t know if you are referring to my post or not, but when I say "resources" I'm not thinking the department of "social services", I'm thinking of private not-for-profit organizations. We have several here in California. One other question, how is "panhandler" any less offensive than "bum"? IP: Logged |
noreenz
Knowflake Posts: 1229
From: No.CAL
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted November 02, 2006 06:14 PM
MM-
"but I found a bit of wisdom that said we aren't meant to judge a homeless person/addict, we aren't meant to think they "deserve it" or think that they "don't deserve it" because we have no idea what kind of lessons/experiences they are meant to have on their individual paths. We are simply meant to have compassion. "Well said my friend, I am of this opinion, I get ALOT of heat because of it.....gah, the stories I could tell, oy........ I no longer will even discuss the matter with others...... as it is nothing I care to debate, too many strong opinions.
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tuxedo meow
Knowflake Posts: 878
From: Texas Gulf Coast, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 03, 2006 09:05 PM
In many towns in the US Dec 21st i believe is a memorial day called HOMELESS MEMORIAL to those who had died homeless in the streets. Ours takes place pre-dawn on the Bayfront. Many agency workers and all that try to make a difference really need closure over these deaths. There are speakers, poets, songs, tamales, hot cocoa! Also there are long stemmed roses/w thorns and each bears the name of a person who died on our streets, on our watch so to speak. Some years there are unknowns so street nicknames are used. As the names are spoken, whoever wishes to accepts the rose in that persons name and places it with the others on the cement- dawn is usually breaking over the bay by then...so, instead of bum or homeless or panhandler, I push the term "cement roses" for the living who bloom with street thorns-
Non Profits really cannot be monitored and if not kept on true keel will rot themselves and all they touch. When you go to yours notice the level of light in and around the area, use your s-elf protection constantly, AND wash your hands before you leave-if possible, wear an apron or smock you remove when you leave and leave it there- brush out your aura as well and shower if you can-psychic sticky gremlins abound. The light level is a good sign showing what you may be dealing with-not just unlit-murky shadowy mind eye murk- Psychic oppressors love the weak, helpless, and accessible and they are frequently in authority positions. I actually moved into a camp in a homeless campers area and lived there, slept there, etc to get a better understanding-saw sheriffs riding horses through peoples belongings and people running away in front of horses (like Planet of the Apes) o-well, life is illusion and lessons and choices, just be aware that many profit and non profit ports-in-a-storm-temporary-safe-harbors have great negativities that one must be aware of.IP: Logged |
tuxedo meow
Knowflake Posts: 878
From: Texas Gulf Coast, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 03, 2006 09:23 PM
LL Yes, some are through intimidation. 
mostly i see strong inter-tribal and even political networking happening-Katrina put a glitch in the pre-studied flow of USA Nomadics- Pluto Neptune stuff and that ?Pluto Line-my belief is that VERY SOON ALL MUST LEARN NOMADIC SURVIVAL and the current USA NOMADS know how. Do you? Around here we have a big fiil-em-up feed then close down and put folks back outside around the time they will need to urinate or move their bowels- well fed with no bathrooms or options? One option is being cited for Indecent exposure which hangs there with sex crimes and that, wet the pants? diapers are no option- no ser en dep it y and that is only one of the very basic necessities of living. roarsaway, missallthat, leoasctuxIP: Logged |
lovely*
Knowflake Posts: 2141
From: CA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted November 03, 2006 09:44 PM
I agree with what you say about psychic darkness in those places. It;s important though to get to our Homeless children out there and mentor them, show them there is a different life. Tuxedo, you have meaningful things to say. I never knew about "cement roses" and the memorial-day for the Homeless. Glad to see you have your experiences to share here. IP: Logged | |
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