posted March 31, 2009 12:46 PM         

PETA is not a very good representative for vegans or vegetarians. Lately they're using the term 'sea kittens' for fish ...I'm sorry, I just can't take them seriously.

posted March 31, 2009 12:48 PM           

PETA can be screwed up.

But there are worse things.

Its important to stay on topic.

Have you seen this, yet?

posted March 31, 2009 12:51 PM         

I don't do black and white. Shades of gray.
If it will be called hypocrisy, so be it.
But it's more like duality.

posted March 31, 2009 12:53 PM           

I'm just speaking my truth.

You don't have to listen.

posted March 31, 2009 12:54 PM           

Some men beat their wives.

It doesnt mean they don't love them.

We can love someone, and still hurt them.

Have you seen this?

posted March 31, 2009 12:56 PM           

I won't speak to you any more,
if that is what you wish.

posted March 31, 2009 01:04 PM           

I am a sinner.

Can I make that any clearer?

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh:
and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
~ Galatians 5:16-18

Having openly confessed my sins,
and sincerely resolved to work upon myself,
I am redeemed by the grace of forgiveness.

Not that my flesh is any less disobedient,
for disobedience is nought but the very nature of flesh,
but, only this: that my faith is consecrated to the will of the Spirit.

My love to everyone.

It is not my wish to manipulate.

Or to put on airs, or any such thing.

Only to communicate my personal truth clearly.

posted March 31, 2009 01:12 PM           

(~ Valus)

posted March 31, 2009 02:10 PM           

in the bible - paul said -
that which i do not that i do. for indeed the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

so my question is this - do you eat meat to be cruel? or are you just hungry for a whopper?

and if indeed you are forgiven and live under grace and are not a glutton. i don't see the problem. accept your impefection and let it go. non issue.

do you wear a leather belt?

i believe man is over all animals and therefore has the right to use meat for food, skins for shelter and clothing and with a responsibly to respect all life.

when a cow can do algebra and pigs can myspace, then we will talk about cruel.

when poeple dont spay and nueter their animals, that is cruel. keeping a snake in a cage all of its life so we can look at it for what purpose? that is cruel. keeping a bird in a cage when it is meant to fly, that is cruel. and stinky. a frog in a fishtank, that is cruel.

to beat yourself up over something like this, just being cruel to yourself.

posted March 31, 2009 02:18 PM           

I stopped eating red meat when I was in my late teens and progressed from there. I think I was 19, but I might be off a year or two. My reasons at the time were many. I'm 38 now and those reasons have expanded and altered quite a bit since then.

posted March 31, 2009 02:23 PM         

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Do People EAT MEAT To Be CRUEL??

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No, people eat meat to get the correct nutrients they need. I'm mostly a chicken and fish person myself and I've tried to leave meat behind many times but failed.

posted March 31, 2009 03:32 PM         

quote:

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There is no benefit to eating RED meat. There is however huge benefits from eating chicken, fish especially oily fish.

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Of course there is, in fact even my doctor said it and every Bio course I've taken pretty much agrees.

posted March 31, 2009 03:39 PM         

like i said we are all food for someone/thing and though there are no people meat farms because we are better at staving that scenario off, it still is true.
i happen to believe that plants are also sentient but i eat them too.

here in california however neither plants nor animals are completely organic, in fact there are probably very few purely organic foods in the world, our water supply being adulterated as it is. that is why i want my manor, with its own spring water, ground fit for raising a few meat animals, poultry and fish, and vegetable and fruit. haven't got it yet but it is in the "organic belt" as well, so less airborne pesticides to worry about...

but i'm not completely sold on the pesticide thing either, having grown up next to a farm where they did spraying on a regular basis. i guess i am just one healthy freak!

i too think the way we use animals for "toys"(pets) is often much crueler than using them for sustenance. but as above, i do my best to make sure my meat is not only the least poisoned but the least tortured i can find.

posted March 31, 2009 03:58 PM           

please answer my question.
do you wear leather anything?
is your wallet leather?

do you consider that cruel?

to each his own, i just want to see how dedicated to protesting animal cruelty you really are.
does it include no leather products in your life? no prada purses lara?