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Storyteller
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posted August 12, 2013 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Storyteller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently read that venus in virgo is a huge disadvantage, can anyone shed any light on this?

I have venus in virgo in my 1st house...any ideas how this would play out?

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posted August 12, 2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are picky yet we love to serve the person we love. Wholeheartedly.

The disadvantage would probably be - we serve the wrong person. OR the person is just not for us.

I wonder if it is my Moon in Aquarius (waiting for someone who's very different to catch me like a butterfly) or my Venus in Virgo playing the trick.

Do you position yourself like Cinderella? Sometimes I do.

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posted August 12, 2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller:
I recently read that venus in virgo is a huge disadvantage, can anyone shed any light on this?

I have venus in virgo in my 1st house...any ideas how this would play out?



Venus in Virgo is great for anyone who fulfills a mission or has a sense of duty. The ones I know irl who have it are tremendously duty-bound and service oriented, especially to their career/jobs. They are fulfilled knowing they are serving the public in some way, helping others.

On the opposite side of the coin, I have not noticed this particular placement doing much in the love department.

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posted August 12, 2013 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Storyteller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cinderella yes possibly...i find myself very serving and yet overly analytically of how much they care or not...i have venus opposite jupiter in the 7th and square uranus in 4th and chiron in 10th ....do you ind yourself reserved?

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posted August 12, 2013 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Storyteller:
[b]I recently read that venus in virgo is a huge disadvantage, can anyone shed any light on this?

I have venus in virgo in my 1st house...any ideas how this would play out?



Venus in Virgo is great for anyone who fulfills a mission or has a sense of duty. The ones I know irl who have it are tremendously duty-bound and service oriented, especially to their career/jobs. They are fulfilled knowing they are serving the public in some way, helping others.

On the opposite side of the coin, I have not noticed this particular placement doing much in the love department. [/B][/QUOTE]

Good statement, and I think one has to consider if the native is male or female.

EX: Very, Very Vanilly Virgo something-or-another of mine (man) has all personal plantes in Virgo cept Mars, in Scorpio. Love? Tricky question, it is, will always be more lust to him.

However. having said that, we have been apart for 15 months and neither of us has taken another.

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hippichick
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posted August 12, 2013 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know why my quotes come out like this sometimes...do it the same each time

(confused face)

sorry

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posted August 12, 2013 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:
Good statement, and I think one has to consider if the native is male or female.

EX: Very, Very Vanilly Virgo something-or-another of mine (man) has all personal plantes in Virgo cept Mars, in Scorpio. Love? Tricky question, it is, will always be more lust to him.

However. having said that, we have been apart for 15 months and neither of us has taken another.


Hm. I have only known ladies irl with this particular placement and they put ALL their energy into working. The only "lust" I see, if you can call it that, is for their careers. It's amazing. I don't know how they do it. It's kind of machine like, though one I know does have psychosomatic issues from not dealing directly with stress. Like with me, I react to stress right away. She doesn't react, instead, she gets tension headaches and this is how she deals with stress.

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I tend to agree with FruitTree and Starlight on some of the points they made.

Virgos and I are often drawn to each other, so I've known quite a few with Venus in Virgo (and some Leos as well).

I agree, they are very particular about who they get involved with romantically (even the Leos), but once they do get involved, they're very dedicated and caring.

Like any Virgo placement though, they can be overly analytical and critical of their relationships, and if they lack maturity they can pick apart a relationship before it really has a chance to grow.

I had a Virgo/Virgo Venus friend once who was unbelievably one-sided in her relationships. She expected her partners to see to every little idiosyncratic need that she never voiced, and if they didn't...well. It was all their fault, naturally.

But mostly, I find them to be very caring, nurturing partners, and the physical expression kind of has to depend on other placements and aspects. Otherwise, I could see them being very reserved.

Most that I've known have had a Leo moon or Mercury, or Mars in Scorpio or Leo (or a combination of those placements), so they weren't totally devoid of affection.

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posted August 12, 2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Hm. I have only known ladies irl with this particular placement and they put ALL their energy into working. The only "lust" I see, if you can call it that, is for their careers. It's amazing. I don't know how they do it. It's kind of machine like, though one I know does have psychosomatic issues from not dealing directly with stress. Like with me, I react to stress right away. She doesn't react, instead, she gets tension headaches and this is how she deals with stress.

Well, it's his Mars in Scorpio (conj within a degree my Scorp asc) that keeps the lust thing going on.

Tho, men tend to confuse love with lust anyway.

O, yea, he is a typical Virgo, service, service, service...and with a Cancer asc...it's all about mommy.

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posted August 12, 2013 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus is in its "fall" (weakest place) in the sign of Virgo. The planet that represents love and beauty, placed in the sign that represents discrimination. With this placement, you may look at things and people with a critical eye; you appreciate people and things that are the right size, the right shape, the right color, not too flashy or too loud. You appreciate order, organization, neatness and cleanliness. You may be discriminating in love; you might have a list of requirements for any potential partner, and you can't or won't fall in love unless those requirements are fulfilled.

I am not familiar with the placement of Venus in the 1st house, but I imagine that your attractiveness and general appeal to other people are important to you. You may dress, act and speak in a neat, refined way in an effort to attract others' attention or win their approval.

What is your rising sign?

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Storyteller
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posted August 12, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Storyteller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi blackbird


rising sign is virgo , sun in leo , moon in aries..x

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Storyteller
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posted August 12, 2013 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Storyteller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
virgo rising, sun in leo, moon in aries blackbird

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Zander916
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posted August 12, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackbird:
Venus is in its "fall" (weakest place) in the sign of Virgo. The planet that represents love and beauty, placed in the sign that represents discrimination. With this placement, you may look at things and people with a critical eye; you appreciate people and things that are the right size, the right shape, the right color, not too flashy or too loud. You appreciate order, organization, neatness and cleanliness. You may be discriminating in love; you might have a list of requirements for any potential partner, and you can't or won't fall in love unless those requirements are fulfilled.

I am not familiar with the placement of Venus in the 1st house, but I imagine that your attractiveness and general appeal to other people are important to you. You may dress, act and speak in a neat, refined way in an effort to attract others' attention or win their approval.

What is your rising sign?


This.

I hate this placement personally. (I have it)
Although in some things I'm not THAT critical.

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elixir
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posted August 12, 2013 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoa..this describes two people i know with venus in virgo...

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Originally posted by FruitTreeFresh:
We are picky yet we love to serve the person we love. Wholeheartedly.

The disadvantage would probably be - we serve the wrong person. OR the person is just not for us.

I wonder if it is my Moon in Aquarius (waiting for someone who's very different to catch me like a butterfly) or my Venus in Virgo playing the trick.

Do you position yourself like Cinderella? Sometimes I do.


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FruitTreeFresh
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posted August 12, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh goodness, I couldn't agree more. It seems like I'm going to marry to my job or no white knight is ever going to come to my garden.

@ Storyteller, yes I'm pretty reserved. I haven't learn all the planets. All I know is I'm a Libra Sun, Moon Aqua, Aries Mars, Virgo Venus. I could be a Scorpio Rising I'm not sure, because I'm always hated.

Funny even I'm an Aries Mars I don't know how to snag a guy.

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FruitTreeFresh
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posted August 12, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Violet, does Rising plays a part?

How do I know my Rising? Is my Moon detrimental?

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meissieri
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posted August 12, 2013 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus in Virgo is great for anyone who fulfills a mission or has a sense of duty. The ones I know irl who have it are tremendously duty-bound and service oriented, especially to their career/jobs. They are fulfilled knowing they are serving the public in some way, helping others.

On the opposite side of the coin, I have not noticed this particular placement doing much in the love department.


*deep sigh* This. Tell me about it. I have had to give up some chances to meet some new people or even to have fun (Venus expression, too) for family visits, school, problems, health.

Been single for a very long time. Soon it'll be five years. I've had one date in my entire life, which was with my boyfriend at the time. FML I hate this placement so much.

Maybe it's the earth sign in me, but I want to just find out through experience what it's like to have dates, the excitement of a possible relationship growing, getting closer. Not just by having to think to myself what I'm looking for or by using astrology. Some stuff I thought would be great turned out to be not as beautiful and fun when I went through it for real. I want some experience, but it just never happens.

It's to the point where I'm close to bursting to tears whenever I see a couple happy on the streets or read about love topics on this board. I wish I had a relationship or a date I could ask you guys for advice about.

There's more in my chart tipping the odds against me, but Virgo Venus definitely doesn't help me aside from figuring out which Venus sq Uranus crush is actually more than just a crush.

I don't think I've ever heard someone say they're looking for a partner who is modest, helpful and works to keep the relationship going. Ugh.

And now that my Venus has finally progressed into Libra, I'm still not any better off because it squares my Cap stellium and Cancer Jupiter/Chiron/MC.

Just had to get this off my chest. Maybe other Virgo Venuses can identify with my post.

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Ami Anne
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posted August 12, 2013 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller:
I recently read that venus in virgo is a huge disadvantage, can anyone shed any light on this?

I have venus in virgo in my 1st house...any ideas how this would play out?


Venus is in it's detriment here.

The Detriment and the Fall are not easy, flowing places for any planet and we all have one or two.
This venus is too picky for the love nature of Venus. It seeks perfection too much as Virgo has that tendency

When this is applied to love, it is not an easy thing. That is how I feel this venus would work.

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posted August 12, 2013 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meissieri:

Been single for a very long time. Soon it'll be five years. I've had one date in my entire life, which was with my boyfriend at the time. FML I hate this placement so much.

I have the same placement - Venus in Virgo - so I have a pretty good idea of where you're coming from. I am 29, and I went on my first date when I was 27. I've only had two short relationships, and I've been on a few dates with other people between those relationships -- one date each. That's all it takes for me to screw it up, apparently.

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Maybe it's the earth sign in me, but I want to just find out through experience what it's like to have dates, the excitement of a possible relationship growing, getting closer. Not just by having to think to myself what I'm looking for or by using astrology. Some stuff I thought would be great turned out to be not as beautiful and fun when I went through it for real. I want some experience, but it just never happens.

I feel, and have felt, the same way. The things I dreamed about and hoped for, for a very long time, turned out to be total letdowns in reality ("I waited 10 years for this?"). Part of it was my expectations and lack of previous experience. I think I just waited too long. Part of it may have been my partners at the time. There was not necessarily anything wrong with them, or with me, but I didn't know what I wanted and needed, and even if I did, I probably would not have known how to communicate those things. I still don't have the whole picture, but at least a few things are clear for me.

Now I am (more) ready/willing to "roll the dice", to just contact or call people, ask for a date and see what happens. On the 2-3 dates I've gone on since the end of my previous relationship, nothing has happened -- no spark or chemistry, I wasn't interested in them and I didn't think they were interested in me. But that was the only way to find out if it could have worked or not.

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It's to the point where I'm close to bursting to tears whenever I see a couple happy on the streets or read about love topics on this board. I wish I had a relationship or a date I could ask you guys for advice about.

You can ask me. I haven't fallen in love yet, and I wouldn't call my two previous relationships huge successes, but I'm willing to share whatever details you're interested in.


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I don't think I've ever heard someone say they're looking for a partner who is modest, helpful and works to keep the relationship going. Ugh.

You have now: Me. I'm just saying, you're not alone. I've met someone here on LL that might appreciate my particular style of love. So maybe we both have better chances than we've given ourselves credit for; there really are people out there that are looking for the stuff we're offering.

If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the 1600s, buy Manhattan from the natives for a handful of beads, return to the present and start collecting billions of dollars of rent every month. But before I did that, I'd go back and find myself when I was 16 or 17, and I would tell myself: Relax, have fun, and take chances. Nobody's perfect, so stop worrying so much. If it doesn't work out, laugh and try again.

Oh, I have a little piece of advice -- call this the voice of experience. I suggest that you avoid getting involved with someone that is in a drastically different situation than you are, or anyone that has drastically more (or less) experience than you have. If you're single, never married and have no children... don't get in a relationship with someone that has kids already or has been married and divorced twice. You probably aren't ready to deal with someone else's children, and your partner is likely to have all kinds of expectations and demands for you which are related to their previous (failed) relationships. You don't deserve that, so don't do that to yourself. You want to find someone else that is exploring and learning about themselves, just like you are.
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posted August 12, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blackbird, thank you so much for your reply, I'll get back to it fully when I have more time.

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posted August 12, 2013 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello storyteller! Welcome to LL

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posted August 12, 2013 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this weird combo.
Libra Rising and leo sun draws them in. I don't seem to have much trouble there according to a female friend of mine.
I have an aspect with Neptune and Venus I think it is. It makes me all dreamy about love.

Then..... My virgo Venus kicks in and I see flaw after flaw but refuse to let go. It usually doesn't end well.

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posted August 12, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have really enjoyed reading this...I have intuitively known what I have been up with this particular dude, for a while.

Now it has been put into words...

Very, very insightful thread

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posted August 12, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another bit of advice: Be honest with yourself about your desires. You don't have to tell us or anyone else, but you should get in touch with your own wants. Don't deny your desires. Admit to yourself that you want... well, whatever it is that you want. You want what you want, and that's okay. If you want to share some intimacy with someone else, to hold hands and make out and more, that's all normal, nothing to be ashamed of. Living in shame or fear of your desires will make it hard for you to date.

I had this thing where, for a long time, I was afraid to want anything even remotely sexual. I didn't want to think about it, much less talk about it with anyone. I'm trying to get over it. It's hard, and it's going to take a while.

I've tried a few different online dating sites, and one of the things that I keep reading on (women's) profiles is "I'm not looking for sex". In typical Virgo fashion, I conform my thinking and my approach to suit the other person. I reject whatever desires I had, and I basically make my approach completely Platonic. I don't banter, I don't flirt, I don't tease. I ask factual questions and I offer factual information about myself, like my career and my goals for the future, to show that I'm a stable, practical, sensible person.

There are two problems with this. The first, semi-obvious one is that it totally backfires. The other person probably *did* want to banter and flirt and be teased; they just said "no sex!" to try to avoid some of the manwhores. Those particular requests and statements aren't targeted at me, but I tend to take everything personally (hooray Mercury Combust!). It's one of those situations where people say one thing, but mean something else: "I don't want sex -- on the first date", or "I don't want sex -- if you're a player that sleeps with a different person every night and you have STDs because of it". They kind of messed up, because they weren't specific enough; and I screwed up too, because I responded to the literal request instead of reading between the lines. So my approach ends up being extremely bland and boring, and the conversation fizzles and dies before it ever really goes anywhere.

The other, less obvious problem is that I've hurt myself; I've screwed myself up, denied who I am and what I want so I can try to make other people happy, and I've been unhappy as a result.

I'm not sure where I was going with this.

Oh yeah, I remember now: Allow yourself to be a sexual and sensual person. Yes, you. I see you blushing. Gooooood. You're cute that way. You want to cuddle, don't you? Yeeaaaaaah. Feels good, doesn't it?

Haha. Okay, maybe I'm just projecting.

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posted August 12, 2013 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blackbird:
Another bit of advice: Be honest with yourself about your desires. You don't have to tell us or anyone else, but you should get in touch with your own wants. Don't deny your desires. Admit to yourself that you want... well, whatever it is that you want. You want what you want, and that's okay. If you want to share some intimacy with someone else, to hold hands and make out and more, that's all normal, nothing to be ashamed of. Living in shame or fear of your desires will make it hard for you to date.

I had this thing where, for a long time, I was afraid to want anything even remotely sexual. I didn't want to think about it, much less talk about it with anyone. I'm trying to get over it. It's hard, and it's going to take a while.

I've tried a few different online dating sites, and one of the things that I keep reading on (women's) profiles is "I'm not looking for sex". In typical Virgo fashion, I conform my thinking and my approach to suit the other person. I reject whatever desires I had, and I basically make my approach completely Platonic. I don't banter, I don't flirt, I don't tease. I ask factual questions and I offer factual information about myself, like my career and my goals for the future, to show that I'm a stable, practical, sensible person.

There are two problems with this. The first, semi-obvious one is that it totally backfires. The other person probably *did* want to banter and flirt and be teased; they just said "no sex!" to try to avoid some of the manwhores. Those particular requests and statements aren't targeted at me, but I tend to take everything personally (hooray Mercury Combust!). It's one of those situations where people say one thing, but mean something else: "I don't want sex -- on the first date", or "I don't want sex -- if you're a player that sleeps with a different person every night and you have STDs because of it". They kind of messed up, because they weren't specific enough; and I screwed up too, because I responded to the literal request instead of reading between the lines. So my approach ends up being extremely bland and boring, and the conversation fizzles and dies before it ever really goes anywhere.

The other, less obvious problem is that I've hurt myself; I've screwed myself up, denied who I am and what I want so I can try to make other people happy, and I've been unhappy as a result.

I'm not sure where I was going with this.

Oh yeah, I remember now: Allow yourself to be a sexual and sensual person. Yes, you. I see you blushing. Gooooood. You're cute that way. You want to cuddle, don't you? Yeeaaaaaah. Feels good, doesn't it?

Haha. Okay, maybe I'm just projecting.




You're good. Very good.
This person knows!
There's not ONE thing that you said that I couldn't immediately connect myself to. Not one

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