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poops
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posted February 28, 2003 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi to all my moonmates

One question?...What in the hell is happening with me at the moment?

I am totally losing the plot, more teary than I've ever been in my life, feel like I'm in mourning, and quite frankly, I feel like walking away from everything that we have built our lives around to start all over again.

My poor husband doesn't know what to think as I've tried to be as honest as possible, but naturally, he is extremely worried about some of the things I'm saying.

I feel as though I'm going through a change of life at bloody 34!

Any insights would be hugely appreciated.


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posted February 28, 2003 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Poops!

There was a thread a bit ago about how there was something "eeeerie" in the air. I think the person who posted that had a Scorpio moon. My daughter who has a Scorpio Moon has been "acting up" more than usual as well. Weird....

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posted March 01, 2003 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that, I'll have to try and hunt down that post.


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posted March 01, 2003 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Poops,

I don't know what it is, but I've been feeling so bad these past couple of weeks and I just can't pinpoint the problem because there is no evident problem in my life. But I feel down and somehow drained lately, to the point I can't even write in this thread. But your post made me think that there maybe is something in the air that's making some of us feel this way. I don't know, I'm just rambling now... Does anybody else feel this way too?

Swerve, I've been wanting to say hi to you for these past few days, but I just... Well, you know. So, hi!

And hi to all my other Moonmates and other people on this thread!

Till later

morgana

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posted March 01, 2003 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Morgana! I read somewhere that Mars and Pluto are playing off one another at the moment, and may even face off soon! Jonathan Cainer mentioned this and used the Iraq situation as a point to show the rising tensions all around. If this is the case, and someone should check as I haven't got the foggiest, it might explain a few things.


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posted March 02, 2003 01:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Swerve!

Thanks for the info. I'll look it up. Venus and Pluto, you say? Hmmm, that would account for the negativity that I'm feeling. I thought of the Iraq thing myself, but these things never affected me before (or maybe I haven't paid attention ... ? ) Maybe there's so much negativity in the air that it is somehow reflected in how I/we feel. I thought that maybe it was the Aquarian period of the year (square our Moon) that was the cause of that, but this is somehow different. And the Sun has moved into Pisces anyhow. (Happy birthday, all you Pisces people! ) I'm kinda passively depressed which is very uncommon for me, usually I'm depressed for a couple of hours, a day at the most, and then I get angry or spiteful or whatever and that gives me the energy to pick myself up and fight. But now it's like I'm floating in a muddy pool, sometimes I see a ray of light, but then I sink down again. It's been like this for a couple of weeks now. Strange things, bad things...
How about you, Swerve, how do you feel at the moment? Which reminds me, Uranus is about to enter your sign - big sudden changes in your life...

, morgana

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posted March 02, 2003 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm having a very tough time at the moment. Fallen out with a girl I thought I was close to. General attitude is that of "hanging on by a thread", depression doesn't cover it. Its almost like I have been let down by something or someone but can't put my finger on it. My beliefs and perspectives are being tested like never before and its as if my soul is tired but hanging in there. Shaking these feelings has been impossible, but I also feel that I am growing stronger and more confident inside. I think this thread will soon be talking about how much more focused and "together" we all feel. Trust me on this one.

Uranus you say Morgana? I hope it brings changes, I need them. This is a supposed to a massive year for Pisceans. Mars is going to be in our sign for 6 months which is unheard of! Lots of passion, power and changes for all us Fishes.

Can someone do me a favour please. I have kinda lost contact with a girl I really really fell for. I checked Linda's Relationship signs and we had 22 POSITIVE and only 1 NEGATIVE love aspects (Linda regarded certain aspects as more relevant to personal relationships), with 2 strong indications of being soulmates. She had a boyfriend while we knew each other and nothing could ever happen.

Her data is 22 May 1982 12:00pm
Mine is 22 Feb 1976 01:15am

Both born in London

I would really appreciate it if someone could read anything into whether we might meet again, or about our relationship to each other as I am just not that knowledgeable to do this for myself. I have no idea about transits or the like (yet!).

Oh, I found out that Mercury in Aquarius means I have a strong penchant for astrology. What do you know?

Hope you guys are all bearing up well,


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Twin Lady
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posted March 02, 2003 11:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone

Well, I've been pretty depressed too the past few weeks. In my case I figured it's because of what I've been going through with my daughter (described at length in the other lunar Scorp thread), feeling somewhat betrayed and my inability to have any "control" over the situation whatsoever. In addition to this, transiting Saturn is conjuncting my natal Mercury at the moment which would indicate serious/heavy thought processes, ie "depressed". Then there's Pluto in Sag, opposing mid-way between my natal Sun and Mercury; not sure what that means. Anyway...I've lately begun to feel at loose ends and as though all the hard work I've been doing for the past year is coming undone! Since the daughter I'm having problems with is also a Gemini, she's experiencing similar effects from the Saturn and Pluto transits...so in my more lucid moments I try to remind myself of this fact and remember that "this too, shall pass". Easier said than done though!

I don't know if this has helped anyone, but maybe if someone's natal Mercury or Sun is being squared or opposed by transiting Saturn/Pluto, hopefully some insight could be gained.

Till later,

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morgana
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posted March 03, 2003 06:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Twinlady! I'm up to my earlobes in work so I haven't yet had much time to look at my transits, but when I do, I'm sure I'll find some interesting squares and oppositions to my natal positions... But isn't it interesting that we all (with Scorpio traits) feel this negative?

Swerve, yes, I think so too, we'll be stronger after all this (we always are), in fact I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel as we speak... I think all the astrological sites and magazines are talking now about Uranus in Pisces so you shouldn't have any problem finding info about that, and as for Mars in your sign - well, when it was in Cancer (also for a very long time), they all said it would have a negative effect on the Cancerians because this is not a good position for Mars, but in fact I became much more aggressive and combative, I was also much more assertive and determined which is a good thing. All in all, this behaviour brought me some trouble (as in disturbing the calm, but stale waters, if you know what I mean), but in the long run I did away with the old and the unnecessary things in my life, it gave me the determination to cut off the things that bothered me, it gave me a push, and I reap my rewards now (when I need them most). All in all, it was a very positive period in my life.

As for your girl, I'll take a look later to see how her planets fall in your houses (I'll copy it from a book), but that's about all I can do because I'm not all that knoledgeable in synastry myself. I can only list you the meanings, but there's so much more to interpret. I just remembered: go to www.astro.com to Free Horoscopes and go to AstroClick Partner. This is a composite chart and it gives you all sorts of interpretations by clicking on the chart. As for meeting her again, I really don't know how to do that calculation, this falls in the area of predictive astrology. But I tell you this: if you both really want to, you will meet again. This is a fact.
Right now I want to look at some other threads and do some work, but I'll be back later with the interpretations, OK?

, morgana

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posted March 03, 2003 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, let's see...

Before I begin: she is born at midnight, is that right (in the night from 22nd to 23rd of May)?

This book lists only planets of the man in the houses of the woman (don't ask me why), so here it is:

His Sun in her 6th house: He may be in the position to offer her some kind of service. She may rest assured that she can rely on his aid, although he may occasionally call upon her to return the compliment, especially as he is likely to value her services. His wholehearted support may encourage her to make sure that she is functioning as efficiently as she possibly can, otherwise she may find that he will be ready to suggest ways to improve her system to make it more reliable. This position is more likely to occur with casual relationships rather than in the case of long term friendships and the whole association may be somewhat transitory, depending upon what is convenient to both parties. The relationship may arise through the necessity of the two concerned having to earn their living in the same establishment. It can signify an employer-employee relationship, in which the person whose Sun is involved will expect a worthwhile recompense for his services. When the Sun is re-located in the 6th house of another person, there is often no emotional involvement, though any reticence over this is unlikely to originate with the Sun.

His Moon in her 4th house: She will find that she instinctively feels »at home« with him as a result of a kind of natural affinity and he will be able to make her feel that she is »one of the family«. He will probably be able to anticipate what her instinctive reactions to a certain situation are likely to be. He may be able to make helpful suggestions that facilitate her domestic chores, perhaps helping with house decoration or improving her cooking arrangements or generally suggesting beneficial changes in her domestic environment. He may tend to assume a somewhat motherly role, going out of his way to protect her, sometimes to such an extent that he appears to monopolize her. Much will depend upon the sign occupied by the Moon and the aspects it receives. This is a link frequently found between horoscopes of marriage partners (and between one of the partners and his in-laws). The one whose Moon is involved does not always act as a particularly stabilizing influence and a marriage partner's afflicted Moon here can precipitate periodical changes of residence or unsettling domestic upheavals. The one whose fourth house is involved may experience difficulty in accumulating property as his partner may not wish to undertake commitments in this direction, which leave him with a feeling of being tied down. The purpose of this contact may be to encourage, in the person whose 4th house is involved, a more sensitive attitude towards his environment and a willingness to change or modify his surroundings so that they coincide more closely with his personality.

His Mercury in her 5th house: He may be able to provide her with ideas that act as a spur to her creative imagination. They may have first met through both being interested in the same hobby or through activities connected with children or education. If Mercury is much afflicted at birth or there are a number of difficult cross-aspects to Mercury, he may adopt a too critical attitude towards her creative efforts of his partner or his ideas may hinder rather than help the effective realization of her creative project.

His Venus in her 5th house: He may be a source of great pleasure to her and she may always enjoy being in his company. He will tend to be very appreciative of all her creative efforts and will encourage her to present them in the most attractive and dramatic form. This is often an indicator of a romantic association when it occurs between the horoscopes of opposite sexes of a suitable age, though a great deal amy depend upon the natal condition of Venus and the cross-aspects to it as to whether such a partnership endures.

His Mars in her 10th house: He will challenge her to show that she is worthy of her reputation and by doing so help her to produce her best level of performance. He can provide her with a constant stimulus to achievement and may expect her to make strenuous efforts to realize her aims. He will give her his energetic support if he feels she will make a reciprocal effort to achieve success. In some way he may play a fatherly role towards her and he may congratulate himself for his perspicacity ins ingling her out for encouragement if she subsequently enhances her reputation. He may make suggestions as to the most suitable employment for her. If Mars is afflicted at birth or the cross-aspects are difficult, this may signify a measure of rivalry and even antagonism between the two, but such enmity amy spur her on to make greater efforts. He may seek to gain prestige at her expense and, in extreme cases, he may deliberately try to damage her reputation.

His Jupiter in her 9th house: He may be able to introduce her to a wider range of philosophical and religious teachings and in the process give her a greater insight into some of the more abstract problems that she had previously been unable to solve satisfactorily. He will be happy to draw upon his own experience and knowledge in order to help her to expand her understanding and he may have the happy knack of being able to stimulate her ideas on a varety of subjects, helping her to widen her horizons. She will tend to value his good opinion of her and will trust him with her confidences. This link symbolizes a happy relationship based on mutual trust, unless Jupiter is much afflicted at birth and the cross-aspects to it are discordant. This is a good teacher/guru-pupil relationship. Jupiter may be able to foresee the direction in which the other might most profitably develop. The one whose Jupiter is involved may sometimes be able to assist the other in his travels, arouse and interest in foreign countries and sometimes provide transport for him.

His Saturn in her 11th house: He will take a practical interest in helping her to achieve her ideals if she is prepared to work hard to bring them about, and if he believes that they are truly worthwhile and within the bounds of possiblilty to achieve. A strong friendship can grow as a result of this link but she will need to convince him that she is a solid and dependable person who will not take the friendship for granted. He will expect her to contribute her full share to the friendship and sometimes he may make claims on her friendship at an inconvenient time, with the result that she has to make sacrifices in order to respond as he would wish. He may try to put her friendship to the test by making some demand upon her that would limit her freedom in other directions. He will always be willing to place his experience at her disposal. If Saturn is afflicted at birth and the cross-aspects are discordant, she may feel antipathy towards him, with the result that she prefers to avoid rather than to cultivate his company.

His Uranus in her 3rd house: He may be the means of giving her an entirely new slant on life, putting her in touch with new sources of information that give her the opportunity to develpp quite different mental perspectives. The physical attraction which is quite often a feature presenet in first house contacts, is transferred here to the mental realm so that a high degree of mental rapport becomes possible, provided the cross-aspects to Uranus are not too discordant, in which case his way of thinkign may seem to be too abnormal to merit serious attention. Even so, she may at some later date suddenly become aware of the principle behind the ideas he was trying to convey to her. He may have the capacity to keep her mentally alert and on her toes at all times, and his way of thinking may challenge her to get back to first principles and remind her that, in certain circumstances, issues are not always creal-cut and that thories based on incomplete evidence may have to be modified considerably in the light of new information. He may be instrumental in helping her to bring about changes in her environment and may suggest valuable, time-saving cuts in her methods of travel.

His Neptune in her 4th house: He may exercise some subtle influence over her domestic atmosphere. Her instinctive reactions and habit patterns will either meet with his sympathetic approval or with an unreasoning distrust. Her experiences with him may tend to loosen the effect of her parental upbringing and, if Neptune is much afflicted, may tempt her to throw overboard some of the principles carefully instilled into her in her childhood. Sometimes he may exercise some subtle claim on her hospitality or know exactly how to play on her charitable instincts so that she feels under an obligation to offer him shelter and suppport. If Neptune is much afflicted at birth and the cross-aspects to it are discordant, he may squander her estate or encourage her to do so. He may try to trick her out of her birthright or in some way involve her in scandal, causing her to neglect some vital precaution, or be the cause of some subtle deterioration in her domestic atmosphere.

His Pluto in her 2nd house: Her experiences with him may cause her to become aware of the most deep-seated motives that regulate her attitude to money and possessions. The way he acts may cause her to ask herself on what her standard of values is really based, and to re-examine her whole attitude towards the question of security. If the cross-aspects to Pluto are particularly harmonious he may be the means of bringing her much financial gain. If his Pluto is afflicted at birth and the cross-aspects to it are discordant, he may be instrumental in involving her in losses which cause her to reflect that true wealth cannot be measured satisfactorily on any material basis. When this link is present, she would be well advised not to allow him too much say in how she conducts her financial affairs, even if he may appear to take a special interest in them, and even if she feels that he can help her to achieve some spectacular breakthrough on the financial front.

My hands really hurt…

I know, it's not much, and perhaps not written from all perspectives (I got a feeling it was a bit too practical and »earthy«, I like Linda's interpretations much much more, it's a pity she didn't write a proper book on synastry), but maybe it can give you some insight and help you to transform these interpretations in your mind into a more »you-of-you« material, you know, customize it.

If you're interested, it's taken from the book »Synastry« by Ronald Davison, and unfortunately it's the only one on synastry that I have. I hope someone will be able to help you more with this.
I've noticed though that yours is obviously an attraction of opposites, since your Suns are in a very tight natural square (and your Moons in opposition), and she's a Gemini with strong earthy and airy undertones, while you're all water with air undertones. As I see it, you probably complement each other, each compensating for what the other one lacks. But if you didn't have much mutual aspects and if it weren't for your Venus and Mercury in Aquarius, you probably wouldn't even notice each other. She has the same placements as my mother: Gemini Sun, Asc. Virgo, Taurus Moon. Very practical. And probably very flirty and charming, which appeals to your romantic Piscean side. Well, you know best anyway. Good luck!

, morgana

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posted March 03, 2003 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How come we can now post such long replies all of a sudden?

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posted March 03, 2003 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YYYAAY!
It was always challenging to get the posts just the right length at times..
Now we can just ramble on and on...

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morgana
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posted March 03, 2003 02:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right!

Randall, great!

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hooked
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posted March 05, 2003 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi morgana,

You mentioned something about astrological magazines in one of your posts. Can you recommend some good ones, or can anyone else?

Thanks

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posted March 05, 2003 04:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did I? I can't remember. I was probably talking in general about something, but I can't really recommend you any magazines that I read (in fact I read only one and it's not very extensive, I just like to check out the general predictions and keep up with the movement of the planets) because I live in a non-english speaking country and I don't really buy astrological magazines in the English language anymore (well, I bought one once or twice, to be precise - hey, this rhymes! ) since there's so much stuff on astrology on the internet. But I remember reading somewhere in this forum that Mountain Astrologer is good, so maybe you'd be interested to check out their site:
http://www.mountainastrologer.com/index.html

I hope other knowflakes can help you out some more with this

, morgana

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Thanks morgana, I will check this out


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posted March 06, 2003 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

While were talking about lunar placements in water, in regards to Swerve's comment...
"when analysing feelings or people. Patterns of behaviour jump out at me and I can predict what their next moves, true motives are, even when they haven't figured it out yet. Oh, the amount of times I have said that someone is like this, or does this because, and am either validated by a close source or over time as their TRUE natures are revealed"

PERFECT DESCRIPTION SWERVE! PERFECT!
True Motives/Nature, Patterns & Prediction of Behavior, even before they know it
For me that's it in a nutshell!

I've always been able to "read" people, more so after puberty when I realized it as an actual "ability" & started to test & develop it.


I do this as well, the first time I remember was meeting a man my mother was head over heels in love with, when I was six years old. As soon as I met him I knew he was trouble. I didn't have to say anything either, she knew I didn't like him just by looking at me, but we moved in with him anyway. I guess she thought I was just jealous of his getting her attention. it turned out he had at least six other girlfriends dotted around the British Isles, and his own mother told my mum that he was a pathological liar. He put her through a lot (stuff I won't go into because it's much too personal - she almost had a nervous breakdown because of him though )

I don't always say something right away when I get that feeling in my gut, just because I know I won't be listened to. it usually comes out at some point though, and either the person I tell gets angry or laughs it off. Mum is one of the few people who will listen to me (now), and has told me she wishes she had my "inner antenna."

I'm a Scorp rising by the way, sun in Aries,
moon in Gemini.

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posted March 06, 2003 06:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hooked,

You may have read a post of mine where I talked about reading my Mom's Astrology magazines when I was a kid. Anyhow...the ones I'm referring to are American Astrology and Horoscope, monthly publications that gave general predictions for all 12 signs, a "year ahead" article based on planetary transits for the Sunsign of the month, some kind of ephemeris (if I remember correctly) and several articles of interest pertaining to Astrology. Also, I think one of them had a general advice section where people would send letters with a problem or question, include their birth data, and then a response.

I admit to not buying them much anymore (I've already so much reading material around here and find plenty of info online), though they are worth checking out if you haven't in the past. I just hope they're both still in publication, lol. There are probably others as well; just check the magazine rack in virtually any store.

Welcome teaselbaby!!

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Thanks Twin Lady, I will check those out as well


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Morgane,

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner to thank you, but thanks! You didn't have to wear your fingers off like you said, but it was very much appreciated. Chat soon.


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Bouncin it up for Tommy_Cat

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(I replied in the other thread, but it's not showing, so I copied it here

Hey I never saw your reply, LL!

I guess I can answer that now: yes he sees it and he can make me happy, but what I was talking about is a kind of a more or less permanent emotional state, probably a result of everything I went through and I can't forget (and forgive). It's difficult to explain, maybe some of us are born this way and some are born more carefree and happy. It's like I look for something to bring me down because I feel safe in the emotional state that I know so well and can control. What a twisted way of thinking, isn't it? When I'm happy I can't be completely happy for a long time because I'm waiting for everything to collapse and I just couldn't bare that. I go through an emotional rollercoaster all the time: very high and very low. This is a regeneration (Pluto) thing I guess.

Hope I haven't confused you even more

, morgana

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hi lunar scorpios.. i don't really belong here.. infact, i'm your opposite (moon in taurus), but i have a question..

pretty much everything i've read about moon in scorpio suggests there is some emotional trauma associated with the mother.. like either she dies, she's a criminal, or just really screwed up. i'm curious if this is a theme with any of you? or if you have any insight either supporting or refuting this? i worry sometimes, cuz my sweet three year old is a scorpio moon.. AND it's in the 8th. oh my. does this mean i'm going to die early? i'm going to end up hurting him in some terrible way? i know he's extremely sensitive.. he's always been so, as well as intense, but we get along well, love eachother deeply.. but i'm scared!! please share your mother experiences with me! it's been such a source of guilt for me just knowing his moon is in scorpio, if that makes any sense..

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I know 2 scorpio moons and they're both attached to their mothers. It's really in a tight bond kind of way.

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