posted October 30, 2008 03:44 PM         

I guess if you start a thread with a natal chart and the following:

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The election day's Scorpio and Capricorn planets are rather heavy... and they show discrimination at a high intensity. It could be either positive or negative for Obama but the day is discriminatory for sure.

So, What do you think? We have already seen several astrologers putting McCain as the winner based on astrology. If it really happens, then is it because there is a 'hidden' discrimination in white/non black voters that will prevail on the election day?

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You might think it astrological and carry on in that manner rather than being a sheep and follow the crowd.

posted October 30, 2008 04:22 PM         

well jhwop it seems we have quite a lot in common. i am also a leo, with pluto ON the sun, mercury and venus in virgo, and scorpio on the midheaven, not rising. and i find the weakness of double leos (sun/moon) is to be more than stubborn, arrogant with it.

i realize, jwhop, that you think you are right and that the rest of us are the bullshitters. but unfortunately the electoral votes appear to agree with us.

i listed above a bunch of "socialist" countries, among them some of the top economies in the world. you are welcome to move to ireland if YOU like, where the economy is peachy keen, but i'll warn you the weather is hard to take, especially for a double leo from florida!! and even the irish have a degree of socialism in their welfare plans...healthcare is NOT REFUSED to those who cannot afford it...seems you just can't go anywhere those pesky socialists aren't these days.

and my friends in england seem to be doing just fine...better in most cases than when thatcher was putting the hatchet to the socialist system. but do you know that since privatisation took place prices have skyrocketted and even the mail isn't reliable?

never mind, soon florida will be so hot and so underwater it won't matter anyway...

posted October 30, 2008 05:24 PM         

My idea would be for all those who can't get with the American agenda of self sufficiency and taking care of themselves and their families to go elsewhere. They could do a lot worse than Ireland but I fear Ireland is not up to their Socialistic tendencies of having the government act as their nanny all their lives.

I find those who are wrong and continue to argue when they know they are wrong and have been shown they are wrong...I find those people to be arrogant. I find those who wish to overturn the most successful society that ever existed on earth..to date and stand it on it's ear in pursuit of personal or political gain..I find those people who are attempting to wag the dog arrogant beyond belief. I find O'Bomber with his megalomania about "saving the world" to be one of the most arrogant twits I've ever had the displeasure of hearing.

I wouldn't count those electoral votes just yet if I were you. I know Mr. Supreme Arrogance himself is already measuring the drapes in the White House but if it were me, I'd put the tape measure away and wait for the voters to decide.

As for those Socialist countries you mentioned katatonic, let me suggest you check those economies against the United States and what capitalism produces. While you're doing that, you might want to check Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and Vietnam.

When you do your checking, you might discover that the entire EU with it's 500,000,000 citizens in 27 nations with a workforce of 223,000,000 have a combined 2007 GDP of 14.43 trillion, measured in USD. The US with about 300,000,000 and a labor force of 153,000,000 produced GDP of $13.86 trillion in USD. Now, if you want to separate those who you say are among the top economies of the world out of the EU numbers and compare them to the United States, be my guest.

Well, Florida may again be underwater but I'm a very good swimmer so I'm not in panic mode just yet.

So katatonic, are you saying O'Bomber didn't trot out a bunch of people to wail and moan about how they just can't make it in America...without O'Bomber? Are you saying O'Bomber didn't attribute all of America's woes to Bush and McCain? Because if that's what you are saying then I'll go and look up a transcript of O'Bomber's commercial from last night.

posted October 31, 2008 12:00 AM         

i have yet to see the whole thing so i will only comment on what i did see. it was an infomercial. i don't have much patience with politicking. that's why i am not a politician! don't tell me mccain's approach has been honest or without slander.

posted October 31, 2008 04:23 AM         

Yeah...I can see that....if you use co-rulerships, Jupiter rules his
2nd house....so Moon trine 2nd house ruler

He has his 8th house ruler Mercury oppose/contraparallel Jupiter
too....that can be good...especially when you add the Moon....3
planet configuration...so Moon makes easy aspects to both 2nd house
ruler and 8th house ruler

His 8th house ruler Mercury links to Jupiter contraparallel Pluto in
declinations...that could be good for business,investments.

Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is said to be associated with wealth
he has that midpoint square his Ascendant with 51 minutes of arc. He
has Sun/Uranus midpoint oppose his Ascendant with 51 minutes of arc.
This looks like a person who can help generate great change that is
beneficial for him and others.

His Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc Midheaven squares Natal
Jupiter/Pluto midpoint with 27 minutes of arc applying on Election
Day. That looks like beneficial changes,power expansion.
That also means that his Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc Midheaven has
been conjuncting his Ascendant which seems like he found his soul
life purpose when deciding to run for President of the United States.
It look it is the right time for him to run for president,and so he
shouldn't wait for 2012 or later.

He has Sun square Jupiter/Uranus midpoint with 31 minutes of arc, and
that indicates he can have sudden look, beneficial changes.

Ebertin said that Jupiter/Uranus midpoint is "Thank The Lord"

I find it interesting that transiting Jupiter/Uranus midpoint is
conjuncting his Ascendant now,and he will still have that transit on
Election Day. He had that transit when Colin Powell endorsed him too.

Transiting Jupiter/Uranus midpoint aspecting his midpoint picture of
Ascendant = Sun/Uranus = Jupiter/Pluto on Election Day looks like he
will be thanking god for being allowed to make beneficial changes by
being in power. In other words, looks like a good transit
configuration for somebody that's elected president....especially
when he already has Jupiter/Uranus midpoint aspect any way that is
reinforced by his Jupiter/Uranus midpoint.

Transiting Jupiter/Node midpoint conjunct his Jupiter exact on
November 7th. That looks very good for him

hmmmmmmmm.....I should have looked at his Cosmobiology chart. These
midpoints show a lot..

He even looks like a natural reformer with Uranus conjunct Sun/Pluto
midpoint with 30 minutes of arc.

posted October 31, 2008 09:33 AM         

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No need to call me "sir". This is an informal setting.

When racism is brought into a discussion then I don't care how it was introduced; it has become a political comment by a person who sees racism in every corner of American society.

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I guess you can put astrology and politics in the same basket, according to astrology. Both involve personal opinions and heated debate.

My sincere apologies for making light comments on a serious subject, mainly aimed at you. All in fair play of course

To answer your original question...we have Gordon Brown...dont you know he is good with the economy?
Maybe after the worlds eyes are taken away from America, we can have clearer sense of what will happen over here.
Its not just Americans who are affected by this election in the coming weeks.

posted November 05, 2008 12:22 AM         

NO!! Racism did NOT prevail in the US election!!

posted November 05, 2008 12:30 AM         

THE POLITICS OF HOPE DEFEATING THE POLITICS OF FEAR!

YES...WE CAN!

YES...WE DID!

posted November 05, 2008 12:32 AM         

"Sorry XXXX"

posted November 05, 2008 12:36 PM         

Geocosmic Valentine

posted November 07, 2008 12:19 AM         

A friend read today that overall most racial communities were roughly split on the issues of gays & abortions, save hispanic & black. Hispanic populations tend to be opposed to both while the black community is opposed mainly to gays but supportive of abortion rights. While not conclusive, it does suggest that the black vote may have been the "bigot vote" in the election because of this.