posted August 07, 2004 01:15 PM         

Geminis communicate fairly well BUT they do change their minds very often, so they may say one thing and then say the opposite later without any feeling/thinking in between. The motivation and thought process is missing, which is crucial to respect in a relationship.

Geminis do tell the truth bluntly, but they don't like to hear it much. Try telling a Gemini the blunt truth about herself/herself and you won't last long.

It's a problem that is caused my a need to dominate the conversation.

I don't mind it, except that I have a very strong Mercury and I am very secure in myself, so combined most Gemini men feel I am walking over them.
My Aries Venus and Mars 1st house doesn't help that way.

I do better with less macho Geminis. I would think a Gemini with a Mercury that is compatible to your mercury would make for good commuinication.

As I've always said, Mercury aspects are crucial,

Swerve, it sounds to me like you are articulate, you only need to channel and refine what you are saying. The emotional power is there.

Good Luck and the main thing you need to focus is on your security, and self confidence.

posted August 08, 2004 08:33 AM         

Another couple of aspects we have that I think contribute strongly to the connection I believe exists is the fact that her Jupiter in Scorpio is conjunct my Moon and Ascendant and Uranus, while my Jupiter in Aries is conjunct her Venus. Its like we are drawn together very powefully when together but very subtle. EVERYONE that sees us together notices it. But when we are apart I think I am the only one still concentrating on it. But then thats what Pisces do isn't it - daydream.

I agree that I have to focus on my self-confidence and self-esteem first, and I am doing this all the time, no small part down to all the positive energy I have received here. I am lucky to be able to communicate with genuine souls such as yourselves.

posted August 08, 2004 08:20 PM         

As a true-blue Geminian lady, I was touched by your words. I was involved with a Piscean male and really cared about him. He showed his sweet, sensitive, patient side to me for two years. The whole time, I was aware of his feelings but didn't know what to do about it because the intensity of his emotions rather intimidated me -- I would always use my charm (verbal wit) to brush him off in some way. This is not something I am proud of, but it was just the way I was.

Anyway, I always admired him for being able to be so in tune with his emotions, and very often I would catch him gazing at me with a longing expression in his eyes. It's just that I didn't feel like I was worthy of such intent devotion, and being a Gemini, I rather liked being free to go as I please and flirting with life itself. Truth to be told, I very much strung this man along, because although I was drawn to his caring sensitivity and adoration, I couldn't see myself with him for fear of never being able to reciprate those feelings with the same amount of intensity.

Eventually, he was able to let go of me. This was difficult because I believe he had an extremely idealized image of me; I was the one he was looking. But I had my own issues to deal with, and I don't think that I would have been able to satisfy him on an emotional level. We are still friends, but it took him a long time to even speak to me again. We will never be friends at the same level as before (where we were borderline lovers on a mental level).

That is just my story, and I thought I'd share. I do regret not treasuring him in the way that he deserved, and I've realized that he is going to make some lucky girl very happy.

posted August 09, 2004 11:18 AM         

But, I have a different take on things. You see, what you say about the longing and the intense emotions is true from a Piscean. Thing is, what makes you believe that we need to be loved the same way in return? Actually, I might be different from my fishy brethren here, but I don't expect her to reciprocate my feelings for her in any other way than is normal for her. I expect her to want to have fun with me, socailise with the world but know who she is going home with. I expect her to need me when she is hurting and to be there for me if I should be suffering. I expect loyalty and trust, and signs of love and affection that aren't nessecarily overly-dramatic. I fell in love with a Gemini, not a Pisces, and this should show that my needs might be different to what you expect. I cannot speak for your piscean, but I hope I would be wise enough not to look love too closely in the mouth (like a Gift Horse Astro junkie - *wink*).

Besides, what on Earth did you replace a Piscean's love with, don't you know we have taken lifetimes to perfect our brand?

Just joking - I am grateful for your post, as I consider it to very close to my own reality, unfortunately.

posted August 09, 2004 12:01 PM         

Swerve with mercury in Aqua, that helps quite a bit. Jupiter in Aries would be very attractive to Venus in Aries and Venus in Aries and Mercury in Aqua work very well together.

You are correct about the Jupiter/Moon connection, luck is on your side there.

As long as you are both doing things for each other, it's not all one sided. I do not sense that you are being strung along, and Venus in Aries really can't string anyone along for a long time, feelings are pretty obvious.

The key is to act on any signals you are getting, and show that you can pick up on them. A Gemini with Venus in Aries would expect you to notice her in a direct way.

posted August 09, 2004 05:03 PM         

Gives a coward a chance to think of how to apporach the situation when she's back. Think I'll take it a little slowly so as not to pressurise her or make the situation uncomfortable. Besides, it may take a couple of weeks for her to settle as she is also looking for a job.

If say, she fails to ring me after a week of her being back, does that mean she doesn't really care? I called her last time she was back and she seemed really excited to hear from me. But it can take the sting out if you do the same things over and over.

Anyone know of any famous Piscean/Geminian couples? We have Petre Andre & Jordan over here, but I very much doubt you know who they are over the Pond. Just curious...

posted August 09, 2004 05:39 PM         

Her name is Edele - birthday is 22nd May 1982.

Hopefully I can return the favour some time.

posted August 09, 2004 05:43 PM         

22+2+1976 = 29

22+5+1982 = 29

Our birthdays both add up to this. Probably doesn't have much meaning, curious though.

posted August 09, 2004 07:36 PM         

Trine Sun/Venus, Trine Sun/Jupiter, Conjunction Venus/Jupiter, Sextile Venus/Mars, Trine Venus/Mars, Sextile Venus/Uranus, Conjunction Jupiter/Uranus, Conjunction Saturn/Pluto, Trine Mercury/Pluto, Trine Jupiter/Neptune

Please keep in mind that you will need compromise, long-term understanding, respect for each other, mutual freedom, and watch out for illusions.

posted August 11, 2004 02:52 AM         

I was hoping that my post would give you some solace, as it parallels yours -- forgive my insensitivity, as I failed to mention that I am looking for an alternate ending to yours (!). In response to your post ... I completely agree. Your advice is coming lightyears too late, but it's true: a Piscean love is deep, and it is exactly the sort of true devotion and security that I (secretly) crave. I was just too afraid to express to him just how much I cared for him, and as I said before, it didn't seem like I could ever give back to him at the same level. What I'm ultimately getting at is that, I thought he deserved a love just like his. I'm reflecting on what you said, though, and it's so true it makes me ache. I would have loved for him to say that to me, that he would have been okay with however I choose to express my love for him. I would like to add that, as a Gemini, I have a tendency to flirt with everyone and everything (just harmless, scout's honor) -- and I remember that that would always bother him. We Gem girls do love our freedom. But if he's like you, I would imagine that after a while, he would understand that it would be his arms I would run to, at the end of the day.

My goodness, that was personal. I'm not used to opening up like this (another Gemini part of me? We can talk about anything under the sun, but take a close look, and it's all light-hearted small-talk). Lucky for me, this is somewhat anonymous, plus I've found a very supportive and intelligent community. I just joined about 2 days ago.

Oh! I just thought of something. Swerve, keep calling her -- I know I used to love hearing from him. She's thrilled to hear your voice, trust me. She won't show it though. My advice is to keep things light and breezy; always be the first one to end the conversation. Keep her intrigued, while also showing that you care. Also, *Navia* hit it right on the head. I'm secretly looking for a man who fits that exact description.

Sthenri, I have my Mercury in Taurus. Is that what you were asking, and if so, what does it mean?

posted August 18, 2004 03:21 PM         

I am beginning to wonder if I am only setting myself up for rejection. I know if I was excited to see or hear from somebody I would have to show it. She never really does. Kinda tells me a story.....

posted August 18, 2004 04:17 PM         

I'm sure it'll be okay, but you've got a lots of us around here if you need a cyber shoulder to **not** cry on.

posted August 18, 2004 04:36 PM         

(By the way with Defoe and Wright-Phillips its like Ian Wright has been reborn for England - Twice! - I am of course a Gooner)

posted August 21, 2004 11:14 AM         

Someone tell me if I'm wrong on this one.

Natasha - You said in response to my posting my chart in the other forum that my personal security was well...secure...during this period. Can you shed any light into what I can do to understand the challenges I face and how I can rise to meet them? I would be very grateful as I have so much riding on the decisions I make at present - not just this situation.

Anyway, hope you are all well.

posted August 21, 2004 11:23 AM         

I want to be careful not to get too excited about a phone call, as I was trying to get over her the last few days for my own peace of mind. Well, that didn't bloody work at all!

If I close my eyes I can smell her hair and brush a fingertip across her cheek and trace the outline of her mouth.

I need a hobby.

posted August 21, 2004 11:29 AM         

Thank you and I will hold you to that when I get back.

You doin OK?