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sarah9
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posted June 27, 2006 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Knowflakes,

Just feeling a bit confused and low at the moment.Would love some insight in my situation. And i need this to be the hard fact truth even if it hurts...

Know a guy whos a virgo (Either leo or cancer moon). Our first meeting started off with us hitting it off really well and flirting shamefully. However, later when he hinted at going out i refused because i couldnt make out how sincere he was.We were out of touch for a while after which we regained contact due to work related things. He helped me out and asked me out again to which i refused...again.

Thing is i know and the whole Organisation knows that hes a huge flirt!!!And he makes no bones about it and his fascination for girls. He has even declared it in front of me.

Iam confused because he DOES NOT flirt with me. In fact he is SO SERIOUS all the time when iam around...

Recently a whole group of us left for an outside location and he was included. Everyone was teasing him abt his 'girlfriends' and he loved the attention. But the way he behaved with me was so very strange...simply gazing at me all the time...coming and sitting beside me for ages not saying anything....just sitting there...asking me if i was ok and whether ide be alrihght and if i was feeling well etc. A no. of times i would see him just keep taring and then he would come sit wherever i was and not say anything?!!!It was uncomfortable and i dont know what hes trying to say here?He cant look me straight in the ye....cant alk much to me either....kinda stammers when he does...and yet he declared hes a flirt in front of his friends and me?

What do i think? How do i respond?

Pls help....iam kinda very lost. The flirt turns me off but the above behavious makes me wanna reconsider...

Regards
Sarah

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GeminiLover75
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posted June 27, 2006 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like he sincerely does like you... but just as a hypothetical 'worst case' scenario, say if he did flirt with someone else when you were together, even if the flirtation was meaningless, could you handle it and know that it was indeed, meaningless?

Maybe when he is in love, he doesn't flirt with anyone else. I was with a Virgo for five years and he was VERY loyal.

Do you know his birth date and time? If not, can you find out?

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themysteryclub
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posted June 27, 2006 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themysteryclub     Edit/Delete Message
sarah9,

Hey there! I don't have a well of advice to give accept this: Listen to your heart, try to tap into your higher self, in order to understand. Whenever I have trouble understanding either the way I feel about someone or the way someone feels about me, I meditate deep in my heart and the answers always come. I am sure someone will give you more practical advice and more applicable advice, but I hope that this helps. Sending you loveing and thoughts and clarifying energy

TMC

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lovely*
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posted June 28, 2006 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
he likes you

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sarah9
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posted June 28, 2006 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks so much for your replies knowflakes. The knot in my heart has eased a bit with your replies...

Geminilover,I was wondering if he sincerely liked me and wanted me to know the same by the way he was behaving then why does he keep talking abt his flirtations? And since he hasnt told me anything how can i handle his other flirtations? I would obviously think he didnt give a damn and maybe hes just playing some game with me...

His birthdate is : 27.8.1981. Location India. Dunno his birthtime though.Hope this gives some clue.

Mysteryclub, my heart says its fine and hes fine right since i met him and so does my intuition. But ever since ive seen the reality (am a virgo moon) iam definately not sure anymore and i think it might land me in trouble if i go with gut instinct in this case.I dont know...what do you think?

Lovely, well that was truly a lovely thing to say.....i sure do wish it was true...

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Swerve
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posted June 28, 2006 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
He wants what he can't have.

The fact he is comfortable with others talking about his "conquests" in front of you would make me very seriously doubt his sincerity.

You have him confused, but I doubt he would stay interested if the challenge faded.

Protect your heart first, entertain your imagination second.

Swerve

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sarah9
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posted June 28, 2006 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm....

Swerve, maybe youre right. Maybe this is an ego issue for the guy cos i have refused him a few times.

Another bit of info is that just before we went for that Outing together, we had a bit of a tiff on a professional matter to which i wrote very curtly and he didnt say anything to it but gave me some sentimental stuff when the work was done. Funny thing was he didnt acknowledge the tiff...and then he was being so concerend and stuff later...

Anyways, i dont think i need pursue this at all...

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sue g
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posted June 28, 2006 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Would you be happy to be with a guy that always had his eye on other women....ask yerself this....

I know I wouldnt....

I agree with Swerve.....when the challengs is over.......

Good luck and yes, mind that heart of yours

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sarah9
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posted June 28, 2006 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Sue nope i would definately not like to be with that kinda guy.

Only thing is that he really doesnt look like a flirt at all....have never seen him flirting either and he actually looks like a really serious kinda guy. Just like a virgo actually...i did once think that all this was just a whole lot of hot air and maybe he likes to boast around but is internally a serious kinda guy....but maybe its vice versa....maybe hes really a womaniser...

Am in process of drawing away...

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sue g
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posted June 28, 2006 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Sarah

I would be interested to know if he has that Leo moon...could make a difference....I know a couple of guys with this and they come across as tho they are Gods gift. One of them is a friend of my best friend. Everytime I see him in the street, I turn away....I feel he expects all the women to love him...

What sign are you Sarah?

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sarah9
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posted June 28, 2006 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Sue,

Actually quite confused on the moon sign. He definately acts like a leo moon....but almost always in a party scene he is just a spectator. Like i said before, i at least havent seen him flirting but yes boasting abt it. He looks very moody and reticient in gatherings so iam confused how a leo moon can be that way unless its a cancerian one and since i dont have the time of birth i wont be able to tell...

Iam a pisces with virgo moon!

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themysteryclub
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posted June 28, 2006 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themysteryclub     Edit/Delete Message
sarah9

I think it is wise of you to keep a boundary around him right now...if you don't feel you can trust your initial 'instict' take time to allow insight to develop...it sounds like you haven't known him very long...so be observant and aware and your intution will show you the way

Lots of luck,
TMC

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Mama Mia
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posted June 28, 2006 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
I was about to say you being a Pisces you should be able to read him, but sometimes in the beginning it is hard. I went through the same thing when I was with my lil ones Dad he is Virgo and I am Pisces. LEt him be himself and try and build a friendship with him. Check out his Mars sign, that will tell you also alot about him..

Goodluck you can land him if you want they are not that hard to figure out..Thats coming from a Virgo magnet..

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sue g
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posted June 28, 2006 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I have been with a Virgo for 17 years and still dont understand him....thank God (I bore easily, so he is a very good challenge for me).

I think Virgo men are profoundly deep and hard to understand and they smoulder a lot....and at times you would never know what they were thinking...

Mmmmm....intriguing, if you are up for a challenge!

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sarah9
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posted June 29, 2006 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks knowflakes for your insights...

TMC, i dont know him very well yes. But have known him for an year now. But he's still around? Why? My intuition says a big loud red YES...but my mind just dosent like the whole thing at all...

Mama Mia ive been doing nothing but reading him during our 3 days together...definately looks like he likes me, even feels like it. We had the opportunity to hold hands, brush against each other and things and well u just get the vibes...hes very protective and concerend abt me somehow...he definately has a way with women though.

Sue well i generally understand virgo's v well since i have a huge history with them.I know that when virgo's start liking you for real they throw you with some real sentimental and concerned and deep feelings suddenly. Its that mercury influence you can see and you suddenly wonder wow!was this the guy who just looked so cold?

Also What iam pondering here is that a REAL FLIRT, would he really boast abt flirting? I mean wouldnt he be doing it in a hidden way?

And just a bit of info...We have met coincidentally abt 10-15 times this year.....pure coincidence; We have been repeatedly got together in work situations despite running the other way;and the of course the last has been this Outing with just a few people which included him and me. The prg was to bond and get to know each others deeper self...

Funny thing was the day we left we were the only 2 people in bright red t shirts and everyone was pointing it out to us...

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CapGirl
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posted June 29, 2006 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
No one has pointed out the one obvious attraction here of her Virgo moon and his Virgo sun.... could just be the beginning explanation for why she can't draw back from this.

I've encountered a similar situation... the guy was extremely flirty when I first met him, w/ me, w/ waitresses, strangers, and was just generally gregarious. As things got more involved betw. us, he started showing his more serious side and stopped flitting about in public so much when we were together. He would also talk about other girls and conquests when we were first hanging out and getting to know each other as friends.

I think it is a nervous, insecurity thing- the talking about conquests and that. I pegged this guy for a gemini rising which also fits w/ that kind of outward personality. It may not be who he truly is as you seem to be finding out.

Watch yourself though like others have said. It's hard to take these types seriously, and you shouldn't until his actions give you reason to.

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sarah9
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posted June 30, 2006 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Yup right now at least, am protecting my heart!!

Thanks for the warnings guys!I think i am a bit more sure of just being very passive here...not at all reacting.I feel quite peaceful which is funny since when ure in a confusion u are anxious. However HE seems that way....been calling me for work and he's giving me the sentimental stuff about how close we all became during our outing and blah blah.....weird!

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sarah9
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posted July 01, 2006 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmm.....just yesterday he gave me three calls just to thank me for the work i had done for him. Another lady also involved did not get any calls from him.

I missed them all...was in a movie! So he smsd his thank you!

Knowflakes do u think he just kinda likes me as a person and wants me to know or is this stuff definately romantic??!!!

Also just to add, he's abt 6 yrs younger to me not only in age but abt 2-3 posts junior in the org.

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sarah9
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posted July 06, 2006 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Just an update....i dont know if this means anything but...

Now whenever ppl are teasing him abt his girls in front of me he just tells them its just 'Fun' and nothing serious....and he almost always says this seriously....

Iam actually touched...shucks!i need to THINK!Someone pls help ...any advise is good!

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sarah9
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posted July 13, 2006 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmmm....

Dont know again but 2 major thing...

- He came all the way to see me at my office and then acts as though he came to talk to everyone else but me!haha! So shy....for a flirt?

- I had my 1 year completion anniversary at the Org and mutual friends planned a party in my honor. He made sure he came all the way to the party, late at night when work was done...iam touched....

And quite sure he's got a cancerian moon. He's so shy, quiet and kinda uncertain with me. He's definately showing me that hes there for me....oh gosh then why does he keep talking abt his silly flirting?

I found out that he was actually a really simple dude. He admitted that he wasnt a flirt as well. But its a fact that hes GENUINLY good with the ladies. He isnt particularily good looking but hes extremely soft, sensitive and concerend and well no wonder women are crazy abt him.

Now in the above circumstances please knowflakes ADVISE ME! Fate is making me meet him everytime...my intuition is scrwamin....hes being so nice....i dont know....iam ABSOLUTELY confused and very very vulnerable right now!Pls advise!

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pixelpixie
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posted July 13, 2006 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Well, hey, if you are interested, even in getting to the bottom of it.. as you obviously are, with all your posts trying to figure it out....
Rather than speculatihng.. be warm toward him, if he asks you out, accept.
To be afraid of a broken heart through every possible relationship means you never get past the 'wondering about it' stage.
Even if he flirts.. most likely it is an attention thing.. wanting to show you he is an alpha male or what have you.... and flirting does not mean acting out that flirt..
I am a huge flirt, but I don't act on it... it's just the way I communicate... I have accepted it..
So maybe his obvious like for you can be pursued... non one but you can get past this stage.
Try him out... you're already focusing on him...
If you want to.

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Azalaksh
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posted July 13, 2006 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
sarah ~

I'm with pixie (hey there's a news flash ) and lovely -- he likes you, go out with him!! As for the flirting thing -- he may be proud of the attention (other people talking about his flirting), as it points out to you that other women find him desirable/interesting. I suspect that since he is tongue-tied around you, he likes you and hasn't worked up the self-confidence to flirt with YOU because you mean more to him than casual flirting.

Go out with him a few times and see if he loosens up, and if you like his company

Zala

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sarah9
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posted July 14, 2006 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
I just LOVE you guys for that advise!!!!!!!!!!!

Iam feeling really happy, warm and secure and things...iam so comfortable with him its not funny!!!

I think ill just have to mention casually the about going out....ysee he has asked me out like a Zillion times already in the past year.....

But now i know him...maybe i should give it a try.

He's such a sweetheart....so concerend and caring and hes always there for me!!!

Iam awfully scared, terrified of taking the risk though....but shall update!!

Knowflakes seriously, you think he likes me?!!!!!

Shall update soon, HOPEFULLY!!!Keeping my fingers crossed!!!

thanks SO SO SO much!!!

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Swerve
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posted July 14, 2006 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Good luck Sarah.

Fingers crossed for you.

Swerve

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sarah9
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posted July 14, 2006 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Ohmigosh!!!

He ACTUALLY buzzed me on my messenger today...
generally its mostly work, so i asked him what he wanted and he says he didnt want ANYTHING....just wanted to talk to me!!!

And well he was advising me on a few things, being all caring and concerend and stuff.....

shucks!i dont beleive this is happening.....!!!!

Swerve, fingers crossed and hes making it so much more easier!

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