posted September 26, 2011 10:30 PM            

First glance at my chart you wouldn't assume me to have any Sagittarian qualities. I was confused to see this after a while when first studying my chart as I feel very Sagittarian. My ideals are Sagittarian. I may not appear this way or express myself this way but it describes me very well I thnk. At least this is how I view myself.My IC is Sagittarius. Everything you say to describe Sag totally describes the core of my being. My deep feelings. What causes me to feel the way that I do. I have an enormous amount of faith and emotional abundance. Not matter if I enter a bout of depression or frustration I always know at the back of my mind that everything will turn out and that everything happens for a reason. I have learned throughout my life to be broad minded and to be open to high learning and ideas.
Looking at midpoints I have a lot of Sag also. All of them involve the Moon, notice how it is the natural ruler of the fourth house.
Sun/Moon midpoint is 13 deg. Sag
Moon/Mars midpoint is 21 deg. Sag
Moon/Jupiter midpoint is 0 deg. Sag
Moon/Merc midpoint is 8 deg. Sag
Moon/ASC midpoint is 3 deg. Sag

My IC is conj. my Moon/Jupiter (exact) and Moon/ASC (3 degrees).

posted September 27, 2011 07:27 AM            

Sun=Venus/Pluto;Extremely powerful feeling and sexuality. A need to dominate.
Sun=Venus/ASC; This influence gives great natural charm and beauty which will last for life. Often creative ability, music.
Sun=Mars/Neptune;The tendency to be in a constant state of discontent. Does not use full potential.
Sun=Jupiter/Neptune; The tendency to be impractical. Not good with money. Deceitful.
Moon=Venus/Neptune; Highly emotional, needing to give and receive a great deal of love and affection. Deceitfulness.
Moon=Neptune/Pluto; Will weaken powers of endurance and heighten emotions. Powerful imagination with creative potential for the unusual or occult.
Mercury=Pluto/Node; The tendency to show off knowledge and intellectual prowess to other less educated people. (I have this one...lol)
Mercury=Pluto/MC; Incisive thinking and good powers of deduction will enhance career prospects. A researcher or detective.
Mercury=Node/ASC; The ability to improve others' minds while at the same time exercising one's own grey matter.
Mercury=ASC/MC; A lively individual with a good mind that works in harmony with the personality and objectives.
Venus=Mercury/Node; A desire to meet "beautiful people" , celebrities, pop stars; hero worship. (This one I do not understand, nor do I neccessarily agree with. Seems a little drastic and irrelevant).
Venus=Mercury/MC; Excellent rapport with colleagues. Out of working hours, ties of friendship and love.
Venus=Uranus/Neptune; A hopeless romantic who may shy away from commitment in relationships. High sensitivity.
Mars=Moon/Pluto; Vulnerability to drastic mood swings. Strong and passionate feelings. Obsessive love. (my bf has this one and in his case it is extremely accurate)
Mars=Moon/ASC; The love life might be stormy but it won't be dull. Mood swings could cause problems.
Mars=Mercury/Jupiter; An excitable and enthusiastic person, always keen for action.
Mars=Venus/Node; Strong passionate feelings, which will be expressed warmly to others. (bf also has this one)
Mars=Venus/MC; One of the world's workers. A willing teammate. Over-enthusiasm can lead to careless mistakes; sometimes argumentative at home and work. (some of that coincides with your Sag influence)
Mars=Jupiter/Saturn; Inner discontent due to inability to sustain effort.
ASC=Sun/Mars;A lively, keen, energetic individual. Selfishness. Sporting ability.
ASC=Sun/Jupiter; A happy and philosophical attitude to life. Success without ruthlessness. (again coinciding with your Sag)
ASC=Sun/Uranus; Unpredictable tendencies. Stubbornness. Unusual outlook on life.
ASC=Mercury/Neptune; Tendency to be taken advantage of by other people. A weakening influence on the Ascending sign. Not lacking in imagination or ideas.
ASC=Saturn/Neptune; Environmental problems inhibit progress, and the full development of Ascending sign potential. (hmm)
MC=Sun/Pluto; A power complex which will cause hurt to others. A "big head".
MC=Venus/Uranus; The subject needs to make little or no effort to attract lovers.
MC=Uranus/Pluto; Restlessness. A constant need to change and ever-evolving circumstances.
MC=Uranus/ASC; An original, inventive personality able to express this potential in the career. Unusual aspirations.

posted September 28, 2011 06:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Awwww thank you. It's funny you say that, my uncle just told me the exact same thing lol "I love your mind". Well, thank you. I gotta say I definitely love your as well, we have a very similar way of thinking. I think our similarities are very Sag/Jupiter orientated.

First glance at my chart you wouldn't assume me to have any Sagittarian qualities. I was confused to see this after a while when first studying my chart as I feel very Sagittarian. My ideals are Sagittarian. I may not appear this way or express myself this way but it describes me very well I thnk. At least this is how I view myself.My IC is Sagittarius. Everything you say to describe Sag totally describes the core of my being. My deep feelings. What causes me to feel the way that I do. I have an enormous amount of faith and emotional abundance. Not matter if I enter a bout of depression or frustration I always know at the back of my mind that everything will turn out and that everything happens for a reason. I have learned throughout my life to be broad minded and to be open to high learning and ideas.
Looking at midpoints I have a lot of Sag also. All of them involve the Moon, notice how it is the natural ruler of the fourth house.
Sun/Moon midpoint is 13 deg. Sag
Moon/Mars midpoint is 21 deg. Sag
Moon/Jupiter midpoint is 0 deg. Sag
Moon/Merc midpoint is 8 deg. Sag
Moon/ASC midpoint is 3 deg. Sag

My IC is conj. my Moon/Jupiter (exact) and Moon/ASC (3 degrees).

This explained so much to me.
And some of these conjunct your Sag planets.

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Thanks

posted September 28, 2011 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
hmm belle, just realized you and your bf both have Mercury square Mars. How would you say this manifest when you are together. Do you guys often find yourselves making decisions and not following through with them?

I am interested.

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Hmmm i wouldn't really say so, but i can see how u worked that out, i guess there could be a struggle with action/ thought that could be expressed in a number of ways, i think it culminates more in being quite aggressive with our speech/ opinions (but other aspects lessen this, like his Libra tact etc)I found this info on cafeastr.. i agree with all of it, except the bit about being prone to lying. Def not us, we both take honesty very seriously.

"You can be quick on the trigger when it comes to verbal reactions to others, and you are not always courteous or tactful when it comes to expressing your opinions. You often take things quite personally, and your defensiveness can make it hard for others to have peaceful or productive conversations with you at times. You might often compete for the floor when it comes to expressing your ideas, thoughts, and opinions. You might often find yourself stirring up controversy with what you say, or how you say it.

You are very quick with your perceptions, and you might speak quickly and move quickly as well. You are an energetic worker, and you are excellent at rallying for what you believe in.

You are very witty, and often sarcastic. You are quick to offer an opinion and express your thoughts, often without much sensitivity. Some with this aspect in their charts are prone to lying. You love a good debate, but sometimes turn conversations that needn't be stressful into arguments.

Your mind is very sharp and critical, and you are insatiably curious. Your mind can be so quick that you are nervous, easily stressed, often over-stimulated, and prone to headaches. Impatience, especially while driving or operating machinery, could lead to accidents."

Its weird how we met actually, i was gettin angry at a group of guys for being fakes, insincere (long story) and he intervened but in a strong, tactful way, he agreed with me and what i was saying but i think we both attracted each other for being outspoken and havin a strong belief in our own opinions. Not one of the other guys sed anything to me, 'cept him and there was instant attraction. Its also weird that i had met him briefly the year before at a gathering,and his dress sense really stood out to me and him generally but the situation didn't allow us to connect and then the followin year, fate brought us together

posted September 28, 2011 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Here are some of your midpoints. These are not my interpretations, I am refering to Julia and Derek Parker's book 'Parker's Astrology: The Definitive Guide to Using Astrology in Every Aspect of Your Life.'
Some of these may sound generalized or even over exaggerated. Let me know which ones resonate the most. Personally I feel they use the word "deceit" way to much in Neptune combinations. I understand where it comes from but I don't think that is always what it will mean.

[b]Sun=Venus/Pluto;Extremely powerful feeling and sexuality. A need to dominate.
Sun=Venus/ASC; This influence gives great natural charm and beauty which will last for life. Often creative ability, music.
Sun=Mars/Neptune;The tendency to be in a constant state of discontent. Does not use full potential.
Sun=Jupiter/Neptune; The tendency to be impractical. Not good with money. Deceitful.
Moon=Venus/Neptune; Highly emotional, needing to give and receive a great deal of love and affection. Deceitfulness.
Moon=Neptune/Pluto; Will weaken powers of endurance and heighten emotions. Powerful imagination with creative potential for the unusual or occult.
Mercury=Pluto/Node; The tendency to show off knowledge and intellectual prowess to other less educated people. (I have this one...lol)
Mercury=Pluto/MC; Incisive thinking and good powers of deduction will enhance career prospects. A researcher or detective.
Mercury=Node/ASC; The ability to improve others' minds while at the same time exercising one's own grey matter.
Mercury=ASC/MC; A lively individual with a good mind that works in harmony with the personality and objectives.
Venus=Mercury/Node; A desire to meet "beautiful people" , celebrities, pop stars; hero worship. (This one I do not understand, nor do I neccessarily agree with. Seems a little drastic and irrelevant).
Venus=Mercury/MC; Excellent rapport with colleagues. Out of working hours, ties of friendship and love.
Venus=Uranus/Neptune; A hopeless romantic who may shy away from commitment in relationships. High sensitivity.
Mars=Moon/Pluto; Vulnerability to drastic mood swings. Strong and passionate feelings. Obsessive love. (my bf has this one and in his case it is extremely accurate)
Mars=Moon/ASC; The love life might be stormy but it won't be dull. Mood swings could cause problems.
Mars=Mercury/Jupiter; An excitable and enthusiastic person, always keen for action.
Mars=Venus/Node; Strong passionate feelings, which will be expressed warmly to others. (bf also has this one)
Mars=Venus/MC; One of the world's workers. A willing teammate. Over-enthusiasm can lead to careless mistakes; sometimes argumentative at home and work. (some of that coincides with your Sag influence)
Mars=Jupiter/Saturn; Inner discontent due to inability to sustain effort.
ASC=Sun/Mars;A lively, keen, energetic individual. Selfishness. Sporting ability.
ASC=Sun/Jupiter; A happy and philosophical attitude to life. Success without ruthlessness. (again coinciding with your Sag)
ASC=Sun/Uranus; Unpredictable tendencies. Stubbornness. Unusual outlook on life.
ASC=Mercury/Neptune; Tendency to be taken advantage of by other people. A weakening influence on the Ascending sign. Not lacking in imagination or ideas.
ASC=Saturn/Neptune; Environmental problems inhibit progress, and the full development of Ascending sign potential. (hmm)
MC=Sun/Pluto; A power complex which will cause hurt to others. A "big head".
MC=Venus/Uranus; The subject needs to make little or no effort to attract lovers.
MC=Uranus/Pluto; Restlessness. A constant need to change and ever-evolving circumstances.
MC=Uranus/ASC; An original, inventive personality able to express this potential in the career. Unusual aspirations.

Let me know what you think, of each one would be really helpful. I am going to look at your transit/progressed midpoints hopefully I can find you some answers that way. [/B]

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Thanks for that. I wanna get that book now!
Is the midpoint the last planet or the first? so for the first one that uv done is it the sun or pluto? il go thru them all after... so to give more clarity.

I know i think they love to over-simplify with the word deceptive to describe Neptune. Mind u, a lot of Piscean people (the more under-developed ones)are very more than just vague they will very easily resort to lies, i don't no whether it is coz of their own lack of boundaries between truth and reality or just the easy way out of situations/ confrontations, prob a bit of both. My friend's bf is she thinks a compulsive liar; libra sun, taurus moon and pisces asc.. he appears charming but quite insincere, untrustworthy and too concerned with image and keepin his rep up. eughh. the amount she moans about him then gets back with him and then he lies again. Seriously i don't understand how u can have a relationship with someone without any trust, u would lose all respect for someone without any moral compass or just lack of true, honest character. I ain't judging, i know it looks like i am but i think u have to have a certain level of respect in a relationship to make it work. The thing is i know completely what it feels like to love someone deeply and unconditionally, but they have got to give it back too and i think this is what she needs to come to terms with. There's a fine line.

posted September 30, 2011 04:09 AM            

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Seriously i don't understand how u can have a relationship with someone without any trust, u would lose all respect for someone without any moral compass or just lack of true, honest character. I ain't judging, i know it looks like i am but i think u have to have a certain level of respect in a relationship to make it work. The thing is i know completely what it feels like to love someone deeply and unconditionally, but they have got to give it back too and i think this is what she needs to come to terms with. There's a fine line.

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This is something I am telling my friends constantly. I've also never understood the reason why all these girls will date any one just for the sake of being in a relationship or feeling safe. They don't even really have to know the guy, they just date them. Usually it's the arrogant a**hole type who showers them with false compliments and they automatically assume this guy is really into them.

Relationships are hard. They are full of ups and downs, heartache, drama. Not matter how fulfilling it is and how in love you are, you will never have a committed relationship where there wasn't any complications. So why would you want to go through this constantly with different guys you do not truly love. I'm not saying I have anything against having been with different people. It's having all those different boyfriends, superficial relationships. Having gone through all that heartache and tears over these different guys that you could care less about or even talk to after the end of the relationship.
I include this in friendships.
Any relationship I have ever had, have been true and meaningful and despite coming apart and having disagreements, am stillclose to now and always will be. I'll never have a relationship that I can later on think nothng of it. All my interactions (once I feel safe enough to have them lol) have ran deep and are all meaningful to me.
I know for sure that if my boyfriend and I were to end things one day it will be for honest reasons and somethng we both wanted. We will always be friends and very close. He is my best friend. I just know that would never change no matter what happened and we'd find a way to make it work as friends...