posted September 07, 2011 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aww
You are so cute. I love to see pic with charts

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Thank you, lol

I agree, seeing your picture and having the visual really helps when looking at your chart. Your chart suits you--may sound weird to say but I guess I just wasn't surprised, that's the person I imagined.

posted September 07, 2011 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by abcd efg:
Hey Soothsayer, you indeed look very very young. Like a fairie! Or an angel. Do you have invisible wings? I used to look pretty young for my age too. (Now i don't look that young any more.) So, ppl used to mistaken me for a school girl. So i changed my attire to look a little elderly when i started working. lol

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Hahaha no I am not a fairy, although that would be cool

Yeah that is what I should do, try and dress a bit more mature. But that would require changing my sense of dress and style and I don't wanna do that. And I usually don't wear makeup--not that I don't like to but I'm usually too lazy to put it on (plus my job is basically like a work out, a timed work out, and I work a lot so if I wear makeup it just ends up smeared all over my face or I just sweat it off lol).

Guess I'll have to accept looking like a child for a while lol.

posted September 07, 2011 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't know what I did and didn't do ,so I am just gonna start with some things.
Sun in Virgo in 2nd Quinc moon in Aqua(29 degree) in 6th

Ok. you are very focused on finding material security and a solid place in the 3D world.
You pay attention to details and are grounded on the earth,as opposed to having your head in the clouds lol
This part of you struggles with your deep heart which wants to be of selfless service to in a way that is bigger than your own material needs.
This is prolly quite a big struggle for you.Is it? Please explain.
The Virgo wants to make you think small. The 2nd house focuses you on YOU. The Aqua makes you think big and the service makes you go beyond yourself.
Tell me what you think.

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Wow Ami, yes this is very true.

Interesting, I always read my Sun as being in the 1st house, as that is how it looks BUT my Sun is at 28 Virgo and my second house cusp is at 28 Virgo so exact conjunction. That makes a lot more sense.
The second house governing self worth and values. I thought I was smart enough to know it on my own haha--the first house Sun is more outer directed. The second house Sun (especially being in critical Virgo) would base a strong emphasis on materialstic items and possessions. I am a lot more content now, but when I was younger I was humiliated about being in a smaller home, not having all the toys/gadgets other kids did. I am JUST starting to not stress about going into public without looking nice or having the "in" clothing. It wasn't even because I truly cared about those things its as if my selfworth depended on what others thought of me. It makes so much more sense to me. Maybe when I look at my chart I deny that side of myself and was kind of inspired to have a first house Sun and didn't read into it as well as I should have. Kinda foolish, but like I said when I first posted my chart it is so easy to be biased reading your own chart.
Gosh it just seems to obvious to me now lol but anyhoo,

Sun quincunx Moon...yep I despise this aspect. Such a pain in the a** to tell you the truth. The worst part about it is the way it comes across to others, Aquarius in the mix doesn't help this either. I worry so much about financial stability and having a nice home with a beautiful garden. Somethng I can be proud of. I am definitely grounded and willing to work hard and do what is needed in order to gain the possessions I am working to gain. But I also detest obsession over money, disagree with absolutely everything the goverment stands for, I hate society's value system (and unfortunately they are almost all the same in every country besides the ones that are starving and suffering )..basically I have the typical "radical" opinion that Aquarians have when it comes to practically everything especially; politics and religion. With Aqua being my Moon this is almost like a deep rooted emotion. Maybe I was a rebel in a past life?
These two qualities definitely cause confusion in my life and when it comes down to making a descision.
Basically, I want to live the dream--but I despise all the things it takes to get you there. I was success, but I don't want to give into what I hate. I guess it's not as difficult as I make it seem. I do think to much on things sometimes. I thnk I may cause myself more grief than is needed.

I am grounded and realistic, but I am also idealistic and wish for a better world.
I am confusing haha.

I hope this made sense to you. I feel as if I am rambling right now though.

posted September 07, 2011 01:02 AM            

How would you describe this?

posted September 07, 2011 03:11 AM            

You have powerful reserves of intuition and insight, you just need to learn how to use it constructively.

posted September 07, 2011 04:33 AM            

Obviously I will start with the 5th house stellium:
We both have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune here. We both have Uranus square Mars.
We both have our 6th, 7th, and 8th house rulers in the 5th.
We both have Chiron in the 11th opposite Saturn in the 5th.
And we both share: Sun quincunx Moon, and Moon square MC.

As for synastry, I would like to a step by step approach, just how Ami does it (she's got it right I think ). I would like to start with our Mercury aspects to eachothers personal and inner planets and angles; starting with the strongest aspects.

Your Mercury in my 4th house;
square my Mercury and ASC
sextile my Mars
You communicate in a way that is familiar to me. The things you talk about are things that I understand naturally.
Our conversations will be lively and exciting, although there may be some disagreements and discord. I think we should be able to learn from one another.

MyMercury in your 3rd house;
opposite your Mars/Jupiter conjunction
We talk about similar subjects. My mind is focused on the things you like to study and understand.
The opposition is hard for me to interpret. I think this would indication of your drive and passion on my part.
I will look more into that after, my mind is a little hectic at the moment (yes I am being an insomniac again...I honestly don't know how I am able to get myself to work most days but I do it )

Your Mars and Jupiter conjunction is also conjunct my DC. This could explain the connection..you are much like the people that I am constantly attracting into my life. The side of you that you strive to be, a more obvious side of you is similar to my inner secret self?

My Mars is conjunct your IC.
hmm

Tell me what you think, share your thoughts. Once we've covered Mercury we can go over the Sun and Moon maybe.

I also want to take a look at the aspects between the both of us and Ami, should be interesting

posted September 07, 2011 11:27 PM            

I will look a bit more at your chart belle in a bit.
If you can think of any more to add to our synastry when you're on here that would be cool.

posted September 08, 2011 03:40 AM            

I see you are going through house transits that I will soon be going through, thus you have experienced already some of the transits I am having right now.
Uranus is transiting my 8th house but I'm not sure if I am feeling it's effects yet. Still has years before it reaches my 9th. This seems like such an ugly transit to me. How was it for you?
Also, in a few years Pluto will be transitng my fifth like it is in yours now. How is this one? Seems exciting to me. Gotta be strong for you or I with that fifth house stellium (stronger for you, probably). I would assume this would bring on psychologic purging and release through creativity and fun. Transforming through art and romance possbly?
How has it been for you? I am actually really excited about this transit, around the same time it enters my fifth is around the time transiting Pluto trine my ASC will finally be in orb (I think).
I would liken this to be a time of intense expression and passion. With it trine my ASC I am hoping it will help me be more in tune with who I am and what I need.

posted September 08, 2011 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Belle,
I am going to attempt interpreting your Mars/Jupiter in Pisces/8th trine your Cancer Moon in the 12th.

You are energetic and enthusiastic when engaging in psychic and spiritual pursuits. This adds more to your passion and idealism. You have a strong physical and emotional need to manifest your need to grow and expand your knowledge of philosophical and metaphysical subjects. This gives you a strong drive to master all of your psychic and intuitive abilities.
You have a powerful subconscious. I think your Moon in the 12th explains your powerful and vivid dreams.

You have powerful reserves of intuition and insight, you just need to learn how to use it constructively.

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posted September 09, 2011 05:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Wow you are stunning, belle, I am quite jealous and you don't look like a poser lol.

Well looking at your transits I see Pluto is 8degrees from your Sun so it's effects are probably over.

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Thankyou, that is very sweet

To answer ur question about the 5th/ and plutos influence over it... yeah i think plutos influence going thru the 5th and specifically thru my natal sun had been quite a revelation. I have been cutting out the superficial, and what is weird is that that includes my appearance (when i was a teen i was dyin my hair, then suddenly that felt very artificial)friends/ social activity/ lifestyle and so on. I have been concerned with spending time on things that have real meaning, true and not false, if things r light and fun then i don't want it to be with superficial people or friends, that sorta thing, like i do not have time for the false only the real. i have felt like i need to transform and express the REAL me in mind and body. I have never been superficial but this transit i think has allowed me to evolve away from the ego's and other peoples needs and more towards my real inner needs. Both the 5th and 8th are the romance and love houses so you will prob experience something similar but maybe will be a more profound effect on ur personal self. Especially since the 8th house is its home, u could experience intense love affairs or generally a time of intense obsessions that could border on violent or attracted to those taboo/ criminal activities.Apparently under that influence ppl can become either an offender or a victim! Be careful, not to let Pluto become self-destructive in ur life either thru obsessions or whateva; like u sed to Ami b4.. u have to OWN it, not let it own u. Are there any differences u are recently experiencing that cud relate to this powerful influence? Ur 8th house isn't tenanted so the effect may be slightly lightened but being that its in the sign of Aries; u will prb be very driven and agressive in ur interests and obsessions.

I think it is exactly conjunct Neptune now and neptune is in cappy so i think i am experiencing an attempt to focus on my ideals and my goals.. hopefully neptunes influence won't help to blur the vision but will manifest thru its positive traits and cappys practicality n discipline will be aided by plutos transformative effects. I have faith.

posted September 09, 2011 05:27 AM            

I have pasted the link if ur interested?

posted September 09, 2011 06:06 AM            

Your ic is on my 5th, including on my mercury:

This could indicate u are attracted to my mind and the fun side of my personality (my ego, fun times, and general child-like qualities) and you feel at home with them. Being in the sign of Sag too, could show we both have access to and can relate to each others need for fun and expression, me at an ego level and u at a familial core level.

Your mercury in my 3rd: Your mercury is at the beginning of my 3rd house this could reveal like u sed we talk about similar subjects and bring out the need to communicate in one another, ur merc is in 1st/asc so you know how to express ur ideas/ flow of thought easily; through ur personality and i am attracted to this easy expression and it arouses my 3rd house perfectly because the 3rd house is concerned with mental agility, communication and variety

Im not too sure about reading the aspects on a synastry, as i said i am new to it so don't want to give incorrect info.

There was a lil article i c about house overlays on cafeastrology, im just gonna look for it, gonna c if i can find it quick......
http://cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html

I thought it was quite interesting. Helps u to interpret and look at the overlays both ways round.

posted September 09, 2011 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by bellesoul:
Thankyou, that is very sweet

To answer ur question about the 5th/ and plutos influence over it... yeah i think plutos influence going thru the 5th and specifically thru my natal sun had been quite a revelation. I have been cutting out the superficial, and what is weird is that that includes my appearance (when i was a teen i was dyin my hair, then suddenly that felt very artificial)friends/ social activity/ lifestyle and so on. I have been concerned with spending time on things that have real meaning, true and not false, if things r light and fun then i don't want it to be with superficial people or friends, that sorta thing, like i do not have time for the false only the real. i have felt like i need to transform and express the REAL me in mind and body. I have never been superficial but this transit i think has allowed me to evolve away from the ego's and other peoples needs and more towards my real inner needs. Both the 5th and 8th are the romance and love houses so you will prob experience something similar but maybe will be a more profound effect on ur personal self. Especially since the 8th house is its home, u could experience intense love affairs or generally a time of intense obsessions that could border on violent or attracted to those taboo/ criminal activities.Apparently under that influence ppl can become either an offender or a victim! Be careful, not to let Pluto become self-destructive in ur life either thru obsessions or whateva; like u sed to Ami b4.. u have to OWN it, not let it own u. Are there any differences u are recently experiencing that cud relate to this powerful influence? Ur 8th house isn't tenanted so the effect may be slightly lightened but being that its in the sign of Aries; u will prb be very driven and agressive in ur interests and obsessions.

I think it is exactly conjunct Neptune now and neptune is in cappy so i think i am experiencing an attempt to focus on my ideals and my goals.. hopefully neptunes influence won't help to blur the vision but will manifest thru its positive traits and cappys practicality n discipline will be aided by plutos transformative effects. I have faith.

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Sorry if this isn't all that in depth, it i 6am here and I just started my first cup of coffee lol but I appreciate your response, it was definitely what I wanted to hear.

I am no where close to be superficial but the one thng I love about the end of Pluto transits is that transformation, the time where you get to the truth, the heart, of whatever part of you or your life it is affecting. Pluto going through my fourth has been quite interesting. I've been ferreting out the facts about family and situations between members in my family. Coming to terms with psychological issues ingrained from my childhood issues, if you will.
It's been a hard and scary journey but now that will be coming to an end in a couple years, I believe I've learned what Pluto wanted me to learn.
I'm fascinated with Pluto transiting my 5th so thank you so much so explaining it so well. I am hoping I can take that transit to spend some time to focus on myself and my needs. I hope I can manifest all my creative and passionate side and truly enjoy my life. Growing up I have always been self contained and insecure, and the focus has always been on other people and not so much on myself. I hope this transit allows me the courage to take a step back from others and finally enjoy myself and my talents.

posted September 09, 2011 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by bellesoul:
Just a random question before i move onto ur observations. I was looking at my natal and looked at chiron and i have loads of (as u can see) aspects to it. I was quite concerned about the sun opposing chiron ( the conjunct looks like it has easier potential to heal). I read that this is very negative, there was a page about chiron on astro which i skimmed thru. I understand u can turn this into something positive and chiron has the capacity to heal but this placement is very ominous. It results in a lack of will to live; depression, this info was in the section key themes: the sun working against chiron (and this is something i have suffered with since i was in year 8 at school... no pity) it just felt so surreal to read bcoz it gave me answers but it doesn't have to be fated i no.

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_wounding_e.htm

I have pasted the link if ur interested?

It got me curious and i looked at urs and noticed u had only Jupiter opposing chiron, which is very minimal(nevertheless, how do u feel this effect?)Most other fams/friends charts i look at have quite a few, does this manifest in u thru u not being or feeling very wounded, even though u went thru issues at school. Do u feel like at a deeper level u r quite whole and not susceptible to 'infection' lol.. i think thats my attempt at a metaphor.

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posted September 09, 2011 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by bellesoul:
Im not too sure about reading synastry as i am quite new to it. So my interpretations are just in my mind, just ideas i have formulated based on some knowledge, so i aint going to write a lot...plus i think u have to interpet it differently if on the inside n outside coz if u was on the inside we'd have different aspects n so forth. I'm gonna discuss ur discussions ----

Your ic is on my 5th, including on my mercury:

This could indicate u are attracted to my mind and the fun side of my personality (my ego, fun times, and general child-like qualities) and you feel at home with them. Being in the sign of Sag too, could show we both have access to and can relate to each others need for fun and expression, me at an ego level and u at a familial core level.

Your mercury in my 3rd: Your mercury is at the beginning of my 3rd house this could reveal like u sed we talk about similar subjects and bring out the need to communicate in one another, ur merc is in 1st/asc so you know how to express ur ideas/ flow of thought easily; through ur personality and i am attracted to this easy expression and it arouses my 3rd house perfectly because the 3rd house is concerned with mental agility, communication and variety

Im not too sure about reading the aspects on a synastry, as i said i am new to it so don't want to give incorrect info.

There was a lil article i c about house overlays on cafeastrology, im just gonna look for it, gonna c if i can find it quick......
http://cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html

I thought it was quite interesting. Helps u to interpret and look at the overlays both ways round.

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You explained this very well, better than me actually lol. Thanks for that link too, cafeastrology is a very imformative website, I enjoy reading their articles and lessons. Was one of my main references. They gave such a great and accurate description of my Moon sign actually and completely explained all of my emotional issues and helped me to understand them. The entire description was 100% accurate it's amazing.
Kind of off topic, but this specific description made me laugh when I read it. Unbelievably true...

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Moon in Aquarius people are rarely flighty people, but they can be unreliable when it concerns the little things in life. Often, this is simply an assertion of their independence. In the long haul, however, they are rather constant, as Aquarius is a fixed sign. As long as they have their own space and the freedom to be themselves, however kooky that may be, they are trustworthy and loyal.

Lunar Aquarians generally make wonderful friends. They'll make a point of leaving nobody on the outside. Many will fight for other's rights and crusade for equality

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