posted October 12, 2013 03:21 PM            

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This is what I was asking someone before about Horary! Again, we see they have Venus square Mars. I've seen Venus square Mars in my horary questions for awhile now therefore it's reasonable to assume everyone who asks a question at this moment will have Venus square Mars. What is individual about this?! Is it where we cast our charts that makes a difference in it's definition?

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Again, I think it's the nature of the question and the wording behind it that matters. But honestly, I've stopped using the co-significators for the time being, as I'm still learning what the significators can mean and I read it usually gets too confusing to start with everything on the chart.

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I'm still up in arms about when to use the 11H or when to use the 7H. What if they meant we use the 11H when we're asking FOR a friend? Also, Cancer ASC means we're liked? I cast a chart and my ASC was Cancer so I'm curious... -_p

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Interesting. I questioned his relationship status too, but because I saw Venus squaring Mars and Moon quintile Mercury (although I suppose Moon would technically be Rain, but like I said I'm winging it!)

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Now I'm confused again! Do we not use Uranus as chart rulers only, or at all? It's inconsistent... ?

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posted October 12, 2013 04:48 PM            

My significator is Saturn, and square the Moon. This could mean a lot of things - fear of getting close for one, or perhaps also indicates that yes - I was unpredictable since Saturn is squaring the Moon which I believe is a separating aspect.

Neptune and Chiron in my first house makes sense. I'm not seeing the situation clearly and it's painful for me (somewhat. Not agonizingly so.)

posted October 12, 2013 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Are you guys still talking?

If you use the 7th house, his ruler won't aspect yours, but if you use the 11th, Jupiter is trining and applying to each other.

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posted October 12, 2013 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Are you guys still talking?

If you use the 7th house, his ruler won't aspect yours, but if you use the 11th, Jupiter is trining and applying to each other.

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posted October 12, 2013 05:30 PM            

You're in Scorpio. You're holding something from him, most likely a grudge. Did you ever tell him about your crush? I don't know... I'm getting the feeling that you're resenting him for some reason.

He's in Cancer (using 11th house/Jupiter significator). He's sensitive. He didn't like whatever happened between you two and has retreated into his shell, so to speak. (Crabs have shell, right?) Cancer is also notorious for giving the silent treatment when they're hurt, so that cold war thing can be explained by this.

You're dignified by term and he's exalted. You still like him, but I think he took whatever happened as a blow and the fondness for you might have decreased. Or this could be a reflection of you having a crush on him and him not on you...

What was your question about really? I think that we've had a hard time with horary because people want to phrase their question with why/how, and we're still novice and should be working with a simple yes or no question, proposed in an affirmative way, e.g. does he like me or did he understand what I said.

posted October 12, 2013 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Ok, I'm gonna wing it intuitively, so let me know if I'm way off

You're in Scorpio. You're holding something from him, most likely a grudge. Did you ever tell him about your crush? I don't know... I'm getting the feeling that you're resenting him for some reason.

He's in Cancer (using 11th house/Jupiter significator). He's sensitive. He didn't like whatever happened between you two and has retreated into his shell, so to speak. (Crabs have shell, right?) Cancer is also notorious for giving the silent treatment when they're hurt, so that cold war thing can be explained by this.

You're dignified by term and he's exalted. You still like him, but I think he took whatever happened as a blow and the fondness for you might have decreased. Or this could be a reflection of you having a crush on him and him not on you...

What was your question about really? I think that we've had a hard time with horary because people want to phrase their question with why/how, and we're still novice and should be working with a simple yes or no question, proposed in an affirmative way, e.g. does he like me or did he understand what I said.

What'd you think?

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I thought my question was okay but I think it would be better phrased in Yes or No terms (I get what you mean... we're newbies and here I am being like "Intermediate chart, here ya go!") It was a blow, so I understand that. Lol I would not be surprised or hurt if the fondness for me decreased considering what I said to him.

posted October 12, 2013 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Why don't you try interpreting it from that angle, then?

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posted October 12, 2013 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I didn't know that's what I really wanted to know 'til you made me analyze it that way. Do I put up a new chart now or just use the one posted already?

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You should use the one already here...

posted October 12, 2013 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Moon is in one degree Aquarius - is that via Combusta? Mars is also almost in another sign. The only aspect we see is Venus square Mars, but other than that he doesn't aspect my ruler so we don't know how he feels.

Also he wouldn't be in Cancer using the 11H or 7H... he'd be Saturn or Mars since the 11H looks to be ruled by Capricorn and the 7H is ruled by Leo.

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Via Combusta is from 15* Libra to 15* Scorpio.

Look, you're Saturn because the ASC angle falls in Aquarius and he's Jupiter because the cusp of the 11th house is there.

posted October 12, 2013 06:28 PM            

However, Mars is in the 7H so is that a red flag for "yes"? He's in Scorpio's house too although not the sign itself, but I still see it as a metaphor for being in hiding.

posted October 12, 2013 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Via Combusta is from 15* Libra to 15* Scorpio.

Look, you're Saturn because the ASC angle falls in Aquarius and he's Jupiter because the cusp of the 11th house is there.

He'd only be Saturn if we were looking at your 12th cusp, which we are not... Then, you'd be forced to be ruled by the Moon, and you'd be squaring him in a 10* orb...

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But Jupiter and Saturn are trining, and him and I aren't talking, so that doesn't make sense.

posted October 12, 2013 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
But Jupiter and Saturn are trining, and him and I aren't talking, so that doesn't make sense.

By the way what's your Sun sign? Is it Libra?

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Actually, it might make sense if you consider that the trine is applying, therefore the answer has yet to be played out. The trine means it'll come easily, without you two having to fight to reach it, but I'd say this would take 5 weeks or months (I have to check which one it'll be)... Jupiter, if I'm not mistaken, is faster than Saturn, so he'd be the one to approach you...

If we use Sun for his significator, I'd have to say this relationship is done, since you're not aspecting him.

We should also consider Neptune in your 1st house, which implies you're not aware of all the facts surrounding this matter.

posted October 12, 2013 07:05 PM            

Yeah, I just went to check the timing and it would mean it'd take him 5 years to approach you

posted October 13, 2013 04:03 AM            

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[B]What about this one? I asked if my friend understood why I got upset or was upset. The first thing I noticed was his significator, the Sun, opposition Uranus in Aries, so I think he found me unpredictable and disruptive. But he is in the 8H, which makes me think there was something deeply connecting for him?! Like I said I'm not going by traditional rules (granted I've been asking questions about them, but I'm winging it based off my own interpretation)

My significator is Saturn, and square the Moon. This could mean a lot of things - fear of getting close for one, or perhaps also indicates that yes - I was unpredictable since Saturn is squaring the Moon which I believe is a separating aspect.

Neptune and Chiron in my first house makes sense. I'm not seeing the situation clearly and it's painful for me (somewhat. Not agonizingly so.)

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Okay you are Saturn and in the 9th house squaring the 12th house moon. Something you are doing or thinking isn't 'shedding any light' on the situation at least to him. But in this case maybe a separating aspect isn't bad. You are seperating from this think you are doing, not from him, so maybe will find a way to let him know why you are angry.

As i'm reading him as the sun, such the 7th house is Leo, and that is that planet, then he is also the Sun in the 8th house. he could possibly be feeling like he is being 'kept in the dark' about what really went on, or that you are playing psychological games or something with him?

there definitely is a lack of clarity (the first house Neptune and Chiron), and could really be thinking "i really don't know why she suddenly went like that on me"

okay i used a different significator from you lot, but this is what i am gathering, a lot of stuff is 'hidden' in this whole matter, and no one is putting any of it to light.

posted October 14, 2013 04:19 AM            

Neptune opposes his Mars. Hence why he probably did nothing and will do nothing, the confusion that is conjunct with some point(Chiron) is preventing him from taking action/doing anything (Mars.)

ofcourse unless we count from the house of where he sun is....then these would be in his 6th house, and it could be causing him some grief manifesting either as emotional or physical problems. Then we have Uranus in his house relationships, so looks like some upheaval is going on in his life because of it.

posted October 14, 2013 05:04 AM            

Where do I look for your email??? I just don't see it anywhere

PS: I'm on the phone now, but later I'll leave another chart for you guys to dissect... My objectivity is impaired on this particular question.

posted October 14, 2013 05:13 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I want it, NoRain

Where do I look for your email??? I just don't see it anywhere

PS: I'm on the phone now, but later I'll leave another chart for you guys to dissect... My objectivity is impaired on this particular question.

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Sure thing, go to any of the two forums i moderate (the last one in this section) or the health one, and then right click on my user name and copy the email, and then paste it into your mail and send it.

so that i know it is you put the name given to people from your city in your subject...like people from BsAs are porteños....and from your city are C....

posted October 14, 2013 06:03 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
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posted October 14, 2013 06:05 AM            

(I used the time the thought first crossed my mind and it was easy because it was actually when I was replying to someone.)

I know the early ASC says it's too early to pose the question, but humour me... what do you see?