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hannaramaa
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posted October 18, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I've been busy! But I wanted to note I noticed NoRain's chart - his Sun is trine ASC, that's positive. I don't believe he's dead, but I do think he got some bad news. Sun is squaring Jupiter and trining Mercury. He is going through some changes at the moment, perhaps sorting out his finances (Sun in the 8th house) and getting his affairs in order. He may be dying, but I don't think he's dead yet.

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posted October 18, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
@Hanna

I'm going to use 8H, like I suggested earlier.

You're Venus, the big change is Jupiter.

You're not having any fun or change, huh? Seems like you're a bit stuck... But you're dignified by term, so that's a positive sign. I wouldn't say you want a romantic relationship, but someone to share and spend your time with, especially with Sagittarius ruling you.

The change is in 3H in Cancer, so it'll come from some communication form, short trip or people who are/live close to you. Jupiter is exalted, so it'll be a more than pleasant change.

But, since you're not aspecting Jupiter, I'd say there's a lot of things that need to happen before this change comes.


Reigomontus is kind of a weird housing system, huh? I hate how the DSC ruler doesn't actually FILL the 7th house. It makes it confusing. You're right though - no change, or fun. I started a new work-out regimen though, but socially it's the same old. I'm hoping to meet new people, make more friends. I'd like a best friend/boyfriend basically. But would be happier with the best friend part right now. Also interesting that I didn't notice this before, BUT all the houses connected are people houses! 7H. Then Cancer is ruling the 3rd, and the Moon is in Pisces in the 11th.

What does being dignified by term mean?

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posted October 19, 2013 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm starting to feel a little progress with my readings - FINALLY, lol.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What does being dignified by term mean?

I'm not sure sure about it, but it seems to mean that you're dignified less than you'd be if you were in exaltation, but that you're neither perigrine, in detriment or in fall. So you're actually in a good place right now, feeling ok about yourself.

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posted October 19, 2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I'm starting to feel a little progress with my readings - FINALLY, lol.

I'm not sure sure about it, but it seems to mean that you're dignified less than you'd be if you were in exaltation, but that you're neither perigrine, in detriment or in fall. So you're actually in a good place right now, feeling ok about yourself.


This is true,

YAY for you! I've noticed you're getting more in depth. Mine is still hit and miss, but it's fun to do it without knowing what is technically right and wrong.

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posted October 19, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh thanks guy for bringing this up...he's definitely dying as he is sick but at least with him we know.

2moro i find out what on Earth that sad face smiley meant from that girl...but i'm really thinking i can't hear any more bad news for a while, but i don't know, i feel like going on meditating somewhere on my own rather than socializing so we'll see!!

you girls are doing well...will go look for that thing i told u about and put it on the through the looking grass so that you can practice!

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posted October 19, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked: should I get in touch with him? I'm going back and forth on whether it's a good idea or not...

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posted October 19, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
This is true,

YAY for you! I've noticed you're getting more in depth. Mine is still hit and miss, but it's fun to do it without knowing what is technically right and wrong.


Yeah, I did a couple of readings I was really proud on how well they resonated

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posted October 19, 2013 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
oh thanks guy for bringing this up...he's definitely dying as he is sick but at least with him we know.

2moro i find out what on Earth that sad face smiley meant from that girl...but i'm really thinking i can't hear any more bad news for a while, but i don't know, i feel like going on meditating somewhere on my own rather than socializing so we'll see!!

you girls are doing well...will go look for that thing i told u about and put it on the through the looking grass so that you can practice!


Oh no!

But I think he's at peace, you know. I got a sense that he's made peace with himself, so that's always something to focus on in our grieving. :HUG:

If you need to talk, feel free to e-mail me - for some reason, people like my comforting ways

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posted October 19, 2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About your chart File -

Mercury is conjunct Moon I believe, which is a good sign. Moon is opposition Saturn though, so as you said you're debating if it's the right thing to do or the right time. Mercury is trine your ASC ruler Jupiter though, that's a good sign! Mercury is also conjunct Saturn - is he expecting to hear from you, and by contacting him are you planning on revealing something you learned (or you will find out something he learned) and it will be a serious conversation?

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posted October 19, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
About your chart File -

Mercury is conjunct Moon I believe, which is a good sign. Moon is opposition Saturn though, so as you said you're debating if it's the right thing to do or the right time. Mercury is trine your ASC ruler Jupiter though, that's a good sign! Mercury is also conjunct Saturn - is he expecting to hear from you, and by contacting him are you planning on revealing something you learned (or you will find out something he learned) and it will be a serious conversation?


I don't think he's expecting me to contact him. I mean, I'm the one to always initiate and end conversations by e-mail, so he gets a "surprise!" from me every few months. I'm not feeling the fessing-up vibe, so it's probably him... Actually, he said in his last e-mail he was single, so he might say he's dating now?

I try not to get into serious conversation with him... it always feels too intimate and heavy to go let things go that way - even though we were both attracted to one another (him openly, me secretively).

Wanna try to interpret the signs the rulers are in and what they might mean?

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posted October 19, 2013 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

just remembered fille!!
email me again 2moro or 2nite so i don't forget but got more horary stuff for u, and also playing cards e-books u may like such i saw u trying to practice with it...

yeah thought you will see it here

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posted October 20, 2013 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I don't think he's expecting me to contact him. I mean, I'm the one to always initiate and end conversations by e-mail, so he gets a "surprise!" from me every few months. I'm not feeling the fessing-up vibe, so it's probably him... Actually, he said in his last e-mail he was single, so he might say he's dating now?

I try not to get into serious conversation with him... it always feels too intimate and heavy to go let things go that way - even though we were both attracted to one another (him openly, me secretively).

Wanna try to interpret the signs the rulers are in and what they might mean?


Jupiter in Pisces to me would indicate being lucky at this time, or feeling good. Good "vibes," and his ruler is Mercury so I would think he's in an intellectual or focused state of mind at the moment, but open to talking since his ruler is Mercury. Is that what you meant?

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posted October 20, 2013 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about this one? I asked if anybody would fall in love with me this year.

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posted October 20, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus trine Uranus - indicates of course someone could fall in love with me this year, it could happen at any time. Doesn't necessarily indicate it WILL happen. It also isn't aspecting Mars very strongly, so probably not. The 1st house is full so I'm guessing I have to get some stuff together with myself first before that happens?

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posted October 20, 2013 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jupiter in Pisces to me would indicate being lucky at this time, or feeling good. Good "vibes," and his ruler is Mercury so I would think he's in an intellectual or focused state of mind at the moment, but open to talking since his ruler is Mercury. Is that what you meant?

Who's in Pisces, Hanna?! Hahaha. Jupiter (me) is in loving Cancer, but peregrine. So he thinks of me as homely, someone he can depend on (?). I'm in his 11th house, of hopes, wishes and friends.

He's in Scorpio, so he's the one with a secret to tell. Either about himself, about me or both. He's in my 9th house, of long-distance travel, learning and lawyers. Everything that applies to his image as I think of him. He's also peregrine.

I have Uranus in my 1st, so an unexpected surprise will blind-side me. Isn't Mercury about to turn retrogade? Then the trine won't perfect and he won't answer to my e-mail for a while, or he'll change his mind about saying anything to me.

Using that 4th house rule for the outcome, we have Pluto in Capricorn in there and Sagittarius ruling it (10th house). But what could this mean???

Ok, I've been doing some more reading on the Moon... Mine is trining Mars and Pluto, so a confrontation that will change us, our interaction, our thoughts or whatever is bound to happen.

Cancer's a cardinal sign and I'm in a cadent house, so time here is estimated to be 2 months. So he's response will only come in two months?

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posted October 20, 2013 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I said Jupiter in Pisces, when I really meant you because Pisces is your ASC ruler. I'm lagging on sleep and it's showing! Lol. Be back in a sec with more thoughts.

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posted October 20, 2013 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, yes you're in his 11H and that stands for hopes and wishes but it's also friendship! Not a terrible placement if you ask me.

You asked if you should get in touch with him, so since that's yes or no I'm just focusing on the kind of environment the chart describes. He's in your 9th house, as you noted, and while it is your house it's also the house of higher learning, etc. And him being in Scorpio just makes me think of being focused and sort of consumed. He could be really busy with a project at the moment.

Your co-sig. Moon is aspecting Mars, so you would definitely be the one initiating contact. He won't, not because he doesn't like you but like I said - I feel he is focused on something intellectually related.

Also, just out of spontanaeity I looked at what was ruling the 3rd house of communication - Taurus. So, then I looked where Venus was and it was in the 9th house in Sagittarius. I know you said he was single but I wonder if this is another woman who is on a trip somewhere or far away. I know you are far away from him too, so I'm not sure how to discern between the two.

Mars is still opposition Neptune, which clouds things.

Jupiter is trining Saturn, which trines are good but I think it's also a hint that there's only so much you can do. You're being tested on where your boundaries lie (not by him, and not maliciously but karmically).

I'm just going by the seat of my pants, so there may not be any validity to the way I just read it but that's my two cents.

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posted October 20, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ This was very good!!! I'll get to yours in a minute, but let me adress some of what you said.

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Okay, yes you're in his 11H and that stands for hopes and wishes but it's also friendship! Not a terrible placement if you ask me.

Not bad AT ALL. I just told someone a few hours ago that I'm happy to be friends with him at the moment, since I have a lot going on in my life and a relationship would weight heavily on us both... What could be beautiful might turn into resentment, especially because I'll have to be focusing more on my career than on my love life right now. I'd rather have a friendly teasing charged with sexual attraction than a broken friendship because we couldn't try to correspond to one another's expectations.

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And him being in Scorpio just makes me think of being focused and sort of consumed. He could be really busy with a project at the moment.

He is. Last time I talked to him, he said he was administering the whole place, while teaching class and working in his office. I honestly think this is his way to cope with the breakup of his latest relationship, the one he moved elsewhere for.

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Also, just out of spontanaeity I looked at what was ruling the 3rd house of communication - Taurus. So, then I looked where Venus was and it was in the 9th house in Sagittarius. I know you said he was single but I wonder if this is another woman who is on a trip somewhere or far away. I know you are far away from him too, so I'm not sure how to discern between the two.


I hadn't thought of that, but great idea!! But, to him, Venus is in his 3rd House, not my 9th... That Venus is also exalted by term...

According to Lilly's Christian Astrology:

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[MANNERS & LOVING QUALITY WHEN MIRTH, WELL PLACED.] She
signifies a quiet man, not given to Law, Quarrel or Wrangling, not Vitlous, Pleasant, Neat and
Spruce, Loving Mirth in his words

Which can stand for the description of any Sagittarius man, I guess. Which he is. But, back when I started reading horaries, I used Venus as co-significator for the female querent, which would put me in his 3rd house, confirming that I'm the one to initiate contact... Which is it, though?

Argh, so freaking annoying!!!

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posted October 20, 2013 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Venus is an excessive significator to me, the more I delve into horary. I think the ASC and it's ruler, and the Moon are plenty enough significators but that's just imho.

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posted October 20, 2013 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How about this one? I asked if anybody would fall in love with me this year.

The short answer is no. Sorry. No aspect means no relationship, and Venus and Mars are just living their separate lives.

You're in your 2nd house, so you're more focused in matters of the second house now (finances, possessions and work). Also, Mr Mars is in your 11th... are you sure you're looking for romance? I think you're more in need of a friend than you realise... You are emotionally ready for any kind of relationship, though, with Moon in your 7th. I think you're in love with the idea of being in love.

Now, for the planets in your 1st:

- Sun - indicates a question of some significance and that a solution will come about quickly. (Great news!!!)

- Saturn - represents delays in regard to the matter and additional responsibility. ( )

- Mercury - indicates speed in regard to the matter and may be connected to a document. (huh?)

Can you make sense of anything I've said?

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posted October 20, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ And you know, I kind of fibbed on the time by three minutes or so. When I put in the time I had figured out what I was asking it was 27 degrees.

At the moment I'm talking to a Leo, and he compliments me but it feels more friendly. I feel more platonic towards him than a romantic (which is a blessing in disguise for him really)

2nd house also has to do with self-esteem and self-worth imo, and I'm getting back in to shape and focused / excited about that more than finding a relationship. I got out of being emotionally involved with/towards someone a few months ago (as you all know :P) and it just left me not bitter... more defiant. I'm trying to achieve my dreams like playing guitar, getting into shape, traveling the world, saving up to move out of state, etc.

I just worry I'm going to get too set in my ways and the opportunity will pass me by :/

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posted October 20, 2013 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, the Mercury thing - I met the Leo onilne and that's what I thought of when you referred to Mercury instead of a document.

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posted October 20, 2013 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah Venus is an excessive significator to me, the more I delve into horary. I think the ASC and it's ruler, and the Moon are plenty enough significators but that's just imho.

I agree.

Then Venus signifies someone, most likely a woman, related to:

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Siblings, relatives, neighbours. Short journeys. Schooling, early education. Cars. Personal communication, letters, emails, advice. Gossip, rumours, news.

He's got a young niece back in his home town... So travel + relative would suffice this... Could it be that someone is spreading gossip about him?

Okay, I'm sending him an email and that's it. hahaha

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posted October 20, 2013 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, I don't feel that. If anything maybe she is coming to see him? Although I would think family would be Moon related in which case we'd just stick to your ASC ruler.

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posted October 20, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nah, I don't feel that. If anything maybe she is coming to see him? Although I would think family would be Moon related in which case we'd just stick to your ASC ruler.

Honestly, I don't care anymore - I'm too frustrated that I'm unable to see a clear a picture of what it's saying to really give a d*mn. >:-/

I'm sending him an email. As soon as my Yahoo account decides to work again. ¬¬

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