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Topic: Horary exchange with someone, or just a reading?
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filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 12:37 PM
  
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^ And you know, I kind of fibbed on the time by three minutes or so. When I put in the time I had figured out what I was asking it was 27 degrees. At the moment I'm talking to a Leo, and he compliments me but it feels more friendly. I feel more platonic towards him than a romantic (which is a blessing in disguise for him really) 2nd house also has to do with self-esteem and self-worth imo, and I'm getting back in to shape and focused / excited about that more than finding a relationship. I got out of being emotionally involved with/towards someone a few months ago (as you all know :P) and it just left me not bitter... more defiant. I'm trying to achieve my dreams like playing guitar, getting into shape, traveling the world, saving up to move out of state, etc. I just worry I'm going to get too set in my ways and the opportunity will pass me by :/
Hmm! So it's either too late to answer your question or you already know it's answer... I'm so glad to see a woman take such a positive spin on a breakup and take her life into her own hands!!  The opportunity won't pass you by, because the right opportunity will shake you on your little boots and make itself know. (I'm a cynic Virgo who is romantic... don't mind me.) IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 12:41 PM
^ What are your other placements? I don't know why but you feel so familiar to me! I DO have Virgo IC though, but still. You're very energetic and lively for a Virgo. Do you have Leo in your chart (well, you probably do - but where?) My Virgo Sun friend is never this exuberant. She's got Scorpio ASC and even Libra planets and a Sag moon and she's lifeless. Driven? Yes. Creative? Yes. But she has no presence and I've always found it weird. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 12:46 PM
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Honestly, I don't care anymore - I'm too frustrated that I'm unable to see a clear a picture of what it's saying to really give a d*mn. >:-/I'm sending him an email. As soon as my Yahoo account decides to work again. ¬¬
Interesting! Wait, so let's look at Mercury again. Is it opposing Uranus at all? and Jupiter is trine Saturn - the chart was cast a few days ago, maybe that was when you should've e-mailed him vs. now right before Mercury RX. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 12:55 PM
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^ What are your other placements? I don't know why but you feel so familiar to me! I DO have Virgo IC though, but still. You're very energetic and lively for a Virgo. Do you have Leo in your chart (well, you probably do - but where?) My Virgo Sun friend is never this exuberant. She's got Scorpio ASC and even Libra planets and a Sag moon and she's lifeless. Driven? Yes. Creative? Yes. But she has no presence and I've always found it weird.
I have Leo Venus, Aries Mars and Aqua Moon - I guess it makes for an exuberant person after you've got to know me? This is me:
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filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Interesting! Wait, so let's look at Mercury again. Is it opposing Uranus at all? and Jupiter is trine Saturn - the chart was cast a few days ago, maybe that was when you should've e-mailed him vs. now right before Mercury RX.
I'll write it and cast a second chart? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 01:03 PM
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I'll write it and cast a second chart?
Sure. I'm bored at work, lol and plus it's getting more fun to read horaries when I forget the "rules" and just do it my own way. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 01:12 PM
I know this is off-topic but I like bending rules every once in a while  Did you see anything that would explain my exuberance, even though I'm a Virgo? IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 01:14 PM
If this is not karma, I don't know what it is... Same significators, almost the same planets in the same houses... It's fate, or what?  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 01:22 PM
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I know this is off-topic but I like bending rules every once in a while Did you see anything that would explain my exuberance, even though I'm a Virgo?
Yes, your Leo Venus and Mars in Aries definitely explains it right off the bat. Plus you have an Aqua moon, and I have Moon trine Uranus.  Your Venus in Leo comes through really strong which now that I know it's in the 8th house, doesn't surprise me. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 01:23 PM
Moon is opposing Mercury, so perhaps that indicates the difficulty even sending him an e-mail because of your Yahoo Account (also Mercury related, btw.) Not the right time, imo. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 01:24 PM
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Yes, your Leo Venus and Mars in Aries definitely explains it right off the bat. Plus you have an Aqua moon, and I have Moon trine Uranus. Your Venus in Leo comes through really strong which now that I know it's in the 8th house, doesn't surprise me.
Yeah, and to top that off, Venus is my ultimate dispositor, which would make me Venusian, even though I have singleton Pluto in Domicile and Mars in Domicile (granted, my Mars is retrogade, so it shouldn't be showing through). IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Moon is opposing Mercury, so perhaps that indicates the difficulty even sending him an e-mail because of your Yahoo Account (also Mercury related, btw.) Not the right time, imo.
But look, Moon is sextiling Jupiter (me). So it's a good time for me to send it, but not a good time for him to receive? But now that I've written it, I really want to send it...  And it's such a nondescript message, just a "how are you, these are my news, what are your news"... I don't even touch on his singledom (or not)... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 01:40 PM
Yeah but why would you want to send an e-mail if it's not a good time for him to receive it? It lowers your chance of getting a response you're happy with! Moon sextiling Jupiter - both are your Sigs would emphasize how much you want to send the email, I think. Jupiter expands what it touches, etc. I mean it's a harmless e-mail so don't let a chart hold you back. Plus then we could evaluate his response and see if we were right with the horary or not.IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 01:45 PM
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Yeah but why would you want to send an e-mail if it's not a good time for him to receive it? It lowers your chance of getting a response you're happy with! Moon sextiling Jupiter - both are your Sigs would emphasize how much you want to send the email, I think. Jupiter expands what it touches, etc. I mean it's a harmless e-mail so don't let a chart hold you back. Plus then we could evaluate his response and see if we were right with the horary or not.
I agree. It's not a rocket science or even a deep message... Just to be safe, I drew three playing cards for his feelings when he sees my email: Queen of Diamonds, 2 of Diamonds and 4 of Hearts, with the 10 of Hearts signifying the basis for the question. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 01:54 PM
To me that says busy juggling work and stressed out or not open to anything else (In my mind I'm using the tarot cards Rider-Waite) The Queen of Pentacles is holding / offering one more Pentacle to the already juggling act of the 2 of Pentacles. It looks like there isn't enough time or room on his plate at the moment.IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 20, 2013 02:07 PM
^^ But the thing is, the meaning seems to be different with the playing cards, since they have no image...
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/using-playing-cards-for-tarot.html
http://www.alcyone.com/arcana/oracle.html IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 21, 2013 01:23 AM
Dignified by term means a significator found in its own terms.It represents someone in his/her own terms.This significator is more apt to act because he or she has the capacity to do so.If they choose not to act, it's because these are their terms,they know when to 'negotiate'. Dignified by face however means the significators know how to behave with dignity,how to keep their poise and makes an acceptable appearance but it doesn't give them the right of speech or action.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 21, 2013 07:37 AM
^ So basically, Moon in Cancer would be dignified etc.?IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 21, 2013 07:38 AM
To anyone: What if the DSC ruler didn't aspect your ASC ruler, but aspected the second significator. Is the "Yes" weakened? ETA: Actually, I just noticed the Moon was sitting in 27 degrees, so this means it's void of course right?IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 21, 2013 11:14 AM
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^ So basically, Moon in Cancer would be dignified etc.?
Yes.Moon is dignified in Cancer, and exalted in Taurus. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 21, 2013 11:31 AM
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To anyone: What if the DSC ruler didn't aspect your ASC ruler, but aspected the second significator. Is the "Yes" weakened?
That's tricky. Is there mutual reception between the significators/co-significators? I've learned the key to making things work in horary is mutual reception,that is both parties are willing to go the extra mile. If the main significators are not applying. Where are they positioned in the chart? What kind of reception are they involved into? If planets that are not significators are in perfect mutual reception it could indicate the help of a third person. Planets/the significators could be in mutual reception by any of the other dignities too : exaltation,triplicity,term and face or they could be mixed reception like for instance Mars in Capricorn, saturn in libra at 28 degree, both exalted in the signs they occupy and in mutual reception by term. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 21, 2013 11:41 AM
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That's tricky. Is there mutual reception between the significators/co-significators? I've learned the key to making things work in horary is mutual reception,that is both parties are willing to go the extra mile. If the main significators are not applying. Where are they positioned in the chart? What kind of reception are they involved into? If planets that are not significators are in perfect mutual reception it could indicate the help of a third person. Planets/the significators could be in mutual reception by any of the other dignities too : exaltation,triplicity,term and face or they could be mixed reception like for instance Mars in Capricorn, saturn in libra at 28 degree, both exalted in the signs they occupy and in mutual reception by term.
If mutual reception is something like... Jupiter in Cancer and Moon in Pisces, then no they're not. My significator is Venus (Sag, 3rd house, 14 degrees) co-sig. is Moon in Taurus (at 27 degrees though) in the 8th house. Their significator is Mars and it is in the 11th house in Virgo at 3 degrees. Their co-sig. would be the Sun I believe, but that's in the 1st house at 28 degrees and is inconjunct Moon and semi-square Venus. However, I just saw another chart where the Moon was in 28 degrees and that meant VOC, so if 27 degrees is also VOC then all of this is nil.
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hannaramaa
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posted October 21, 2013 09:47 PM
How does timing in horary work? I'm on Skyscript reading right now, but it's wordy (she whined, lol!)IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted October 22, 2013 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
To anyone: What if the DSC ruler didn't aspect your ASC ruler, but aspected the second significator. Is the "Yes" weakened? ETA: Actually, I just noticed the Moon was sitting in 27 degrees, so this means it's void of course right?
I have not been following the entire thread, but just read this. Yes, usually 27 degrees and onward is VOC - UNLESS, before the moon leaves the sign it makes an applying aspect to another planet. Super busy, so I may not check back in, but it seems like you are starting to 'get' it. Might be a bit too soon to say, but looks like improvement. ALSO, just a head's up to everyone, Mercury is Rx right now, so EVERYTHING is going to start being wonky. I have had a crazy day, and it is only beginning. Just know that and that this is significant in horary as well as Mercury will be Rx... Mercury Rx will affect the outcome of the question asked. Usually the person asking the question will change their mind or what looked good during the Rx period will have a serious flaw once Mercury goes direct. In a lot of cases, Mercury will give a negative outcome to the question asked. FROM: PART V - http://www.astrologicalpredictions.ca/news/horaryseries.htm IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 22, 2013 02:23 AM
 Thanks! To be honest I kind of threw all the technicalities out the window and that was when more of the horary charts started making sense to me. I'm still confused on what order to read the aspects between significators, and timing, but in due time. Thanks for the link too, gonna check it out now. ETA: Link is ah-mazing!! Definitely bookmarked it on my computer. IP: Logged |
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