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Topic: Horary exchange with someone, or just a reading?
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 14, 2013 11:48 AM
Typing it from my cell phone but I'd like it too NoRain Also I think you're right about the upheaval! Is there a way to figure out what exactly is upheaving? IP: Logged |
Twirl Knowflake Posts: 2422 From: Europe Registered: Mar 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 11:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: My question was: Am I in love with him?(I used the time the thought first crossed my mind and it was easy because it was actually when I was replying to someone.) I know the early ASC says it's too early to pose the question, but humour me... what do you see?
Too early & not a valid chart. If you still want to look it shows that mars (you) & venus (him) are squaring. Not a good sign, right? I really don't know anything about this though. Or would you take the 5th as his significator?
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filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 04:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Twirl: Too early & not a valid chart. If you still want to look it shows that mars (you) & venus (him) are squaring. Not a good sign, right? I really don't know anything about this though. Or would you take the 5th as his significator?
No no, his significator is definitely the ruler of the 7th I think it depends on what would constitute as bad in my situation... A square probably means I'm conflicted about my feelings for him (true), and the opposition going on with Neptune probably means I'm not seeing things clearly and everything is being blown out of proportion (also true). I'm trining with the Moon, though. Does that mean that I can see my emotions objectively? Or that they are agressive/disruptive/strong? Thoughts? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 14, 2013 04:51 PM
I would think more in lust - Moon trine Mars is the first Moon aspect (I know you're an Aries ASC in this chart though, js)IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 04:56 PM
doesn't any ascendant less that 3% mean it is too early to answer he question, so the chart is invalid?? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 14, 2013 04:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
doesn't any ascendant less that 3% mean it is too early to answer he question, so the chart is invalid??
Yeah but we're still reading it just for practice's sake IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:11 PM
but better cast another chart then no? more 'practical' practice u know IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 14, 2013 05:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: but better cast another chart then no? more 'practical' practice u know
I'm undecided on that... I feel like if you asked and the ASC was too early, then it's improper to ask immediately after again (or soon, anyway). But I understand why a chart needs to be valid to actually read it too, degrees and everything. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:39 PM
The other question I posed about him was also invalid - early ASC, too early to tell ¬¬But since I asked if I was in love with him, I think it's still valid to read the chart for my emotions, no? IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I would think more in lust - Moon trine Mars is the first Moon aspect (I know you're an Aries ASC in this chart though, js)
He is HOT - that's all I will say for myself!!! IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:43 PM
** if you cast two charts, both invalid, then that in itself is a reading saying it's not time yet. happened to me last week, when i was exchanging with Hera. And the universe knows what it is doing.but FA, why do u need to ask a chart that question lol?? if u don't know him it is clear that it is lust not love ....now yet anyway, hence why the charts are telling u it' too early to tell. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I'm undecided on that... I feel like if you asked and the ASC was too early, then it's improper to ask immediately after again (or soon, anyway). But I understand why a chart needs to be valid to actually read it too, degrees and everything.
i meant anyone participating in tht thread or FA if it is another question. A lot of times we are casting charts with thoughts from the 'mind' ...but i noticed when it's that 'feeling' not though, the chart does start shedding light.... IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:50 PM
^^ The first question was "is he in love with me?". I drew the chart in the end of September. The second one is about "am i love with him?" so I get what you're saying, NoRain... It's a bit complicated, lol. I've know him for 9 years, we're friends and I crushed on him in the past. I went back to crushing on him after someone told me he talks a lot about me, especially when drunk - my hopes went through the roof after that. Nothing has come out of it so far, though. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 14, 2013 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: The other question I posed about him was also invalid - early ASC, too early to tell ¬¬But since I asked if I was in love with him, I think it's still valid to read the chart for my emotions, no?
We could but 0 degrees is way too early for accuracy, especially since it's dealing with the 7H too. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 15, 2013 09:15 PM
How about this one guys? I asked what the next big change to happen in my life was (maybe I should've asked when?) IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 15, 2013 09:18 PM
Ugh so basically you can tell the querent (me) is hoping for a relationship, but it isn't happening because Moon is square Venus, and Venus is square Mars? Also, reading SkyScript - Angular houses represent days, and Succeedant ones weeks. My Moon is in a Succeedant house but my ASC ruler is in an angular one which is days. - Confused. Still researching on what house would be used for changes in one's life. ETA: For some reason my intuition is kind of point at Uranus dangling in the 11H in Aries, my natal sun sign. I wonder if since it's barely started moving in there and Aries rules the 12th house it means I won't see the change coming but it'll be sudden? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 16, 2013 04:23 PM
Has a synastry chart between the asker's natal chart and the horary chart ever been done? Does that accomplish anything?IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 06:10 AM
Time for my caveman style try.Yes i looked at Uranus to, as it's the planet of change. Your Venus Trines Uranus which is in the 12th house...the changes definitely seem hidden or at least 'internal' ...the change could happen inside you maybe suddenly you have an epiphany or something and really the next minute will mark 'this is the first day of the rest of your life' that it is in a trine with Venus,EDIT which is in the 9th house, maybe travel, or you are going to take up spirituality in a way you never have in the past??...but as i said caveman style...so will need to look at this again, and try and apply all the reading! IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 07:36 AM
Which house are we looking at for the quesited's ruler?I think the 8th should be used, since, beside standing for death, it can also stand for rebirth and change... no? IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 07:45 AM
And my latest....was wondering about this person and where he went, and such all card readings seemed to suggest it...i asked if he is dead and....i guess we say goodbye. My fault for not being strong enough to carry on, from where i left, rather than wasting time fixing what is already broken...illness could have been the cause, or something that had gone seriously wrong. i'll check once i get out and ask the people who would know. he is the Sun in the 8th house, the north node is exactly on the cusp of the 8th/9th house. Jupiter squares the sun, so i'm guess 'down on his luck' kind of incident. on the other hand, pluto squaring my moon and uranus, both conjunct in the second house...am guessing something also his closer friends wondering about people who've passed in and out of his life.... and of course Chiron will be in the first house.... okay need to find out, but this will take a while till i get my old contacts which i totally delete quite a while ago...but sigh, explains a lot. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 17, 2013 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: Which house are we looking at for the quesited's ruler?I think the 8th should be used, since, beside standing for death, it can also stand for rebirth and change... no?
That's what I was wondering too, and that's a good idea using the 8th house. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5885 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 17, 2013 12:07 PM
NoRain - what's your question for this chart exactly? Are you asking if he's dead, or you know for sure he is dead? Who is this person to you?IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 607 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 12:51 PM
A kind of old 'friend' i was hoping to make amends with...I'll know for sure after Sunday. But i think it is right, first time i asked last week the ascendant was in the last degree 'it's too late'...and this i asked at a minute i really felt someone asking me to ask so....i'll report back in a few days.IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 08:35 AM
@NoRainI don't know if we can know or see something like that in a horary chart, since it's something in the past and has no energy influencing events in the moment. But I'll give this a try! You're Saturn, he's the Sun. There's no aspect between you, so there's not been a relationship between you. Oh wow. He's in Libra, in 8H... He's trining Neptune and squaring Jupiter, but after that I think he won't aspect anything else before leaving Libra. If he's truly gone, I think he's at peace. Libra is the sign that looks for harmony and peace, right? And he's there. You're in Scorpio, so you withheld something from his knowledge, your own or both. I'm guessing you liked him but never acted on it? Neptune in 1H - you're not aware of all the facts. Mercury is conjuncting you (Saturn), so you'll receive news about him through this person. I'm sorry if he's truly gone. :hug: IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 08:47 AM
@HannaI'm going to use 8H, like I suggested earlier. You're Venus, the big change is Jupiter. You're not having any fun or change, huh? Seems like you're a bit stuck... But you're dignified by term, so that's a positive sign. I wouldn't say you want a romantic relationship, but someone to share and spend your time with, especially with Sagittarius ruling you. The change is in 3H in Cancer, so it'll come from some communication form, short trip or people who are/live close to you. Jupiter is exalted, so it'll be a more than pleasant change. But, since you're not aspecting Jupiter, I'd say there's a lot of things that need to happen before this change comes. IP: Logged |