posted December 01, 2021 04:47 AM            

I guess I am really confused how a heavy 12th houser like myself survive in this material world?? How do i bring money...
I feel like i am very emotional/sensitive AND i have to 'feel it' to really work/do a job/feel engaged.
tldr: have been crying real tears for past few years. Friends here, asking for birth chart interpretation to help me figure out my career path.i want to choose something & be masterful at that thing.

posted December 01, 2021 07:14 AM            

The South Node is transiting your first house - you’ve been forced to feel detached / to let go— you’re undergoing change in your physical environment, since Sept 2020.

You’ll begin to feel more active after December 6th - when mars transits into your first house (sidereal, whole sign)

I’ll take a look at your chart better later.. just wanted to tell you as someone born Feb 1993, that you’re fine. Your only real job is to love (trust, respect) your self (spirit, and body). Start there.

Jupiter entered your fourth house - prime time for soul searching. Practicing Meditation daily (15 minutes) absolutely will help you - and a dream journal.

With your 12th House placements, you’ll find support in a foreign country or within large institutions. Do you already live away from your birth place? Similarly, an example, you could train to become a nurse.

posted December 02, 2021 08:43 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by vansio:
sweetie, 1993 is not old whatsoever: believe it or not, we’re young adults. Saturn return on the bend. try to not be so hard on yourself. you have time.

The South Node is transiting your first house - you’ve been forced to feel detached / to let go— you’re undergoing change in your physical environment, since Sept 2020.

You’ll begin to feel more active after December 6th - when mars transits into your first house (sidereal, whole sign)

I’ll take a look at your chart better later.. just wanted to tell you as someone born Feb 1993, that you’re fine. Your only real job is to love (trust, respect) your self (spirit, and body). Start there.

Jupiter entered your fourth house - prime time for soul searching. Practicing Meditation daily (15 minutes) absolutely will help you - and a dream journal.

With your 12th House placements, you’ll find support in a foreign country or within large institutions. Do you already live away from your birth place? Similarly, an example, you could train to become a nurse.

I recommend her, for more guidance. Seriously.
http://youtube.com/channel/UC1Q3g9wcmDORrrhJAb_AxOw

---

Hi @vasio, whenever you are free, i'll be waiting for your interpretation..:-):-)

posted December 02, 2021 08:44 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by saronna:
I wasted years not looking at my chart. Career & not able to decide what to do. I focused on my 25/7 lifepath & asking questions why am I here & purpose of life & I was given Linda Goodman star signs. I didn't know it was my natal chart I can have a plan for my life. I don't know if it's a business a life coach who plans your life with your natal chart but if it wasn't for my natal chart I wouldn't have thought of a business I can do at home

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posted December 02, 2021 08:45 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by vansio:
sweetie, 1993 is not old whatsoever: believe it or not, we’re young adults. Saturn return on the bend. try to not be so hard on yourself. you have time.

The South Node is transiting your first house - you’ve been forced to feel detached / to let go— you’re undergoing change in your physical environment, since Sept 2020.

You’ll begin to feel more active after December 6th - when mars transits into your first house (sidereal, whole sign)

I’ll take a look at your chart better later.. just wanted to tell you as someone born Feb 1993, that you’re fine. Your only real job is to love (trust, respect) your self (spirit, and body). Start there.

Jupiter entered your fourth house - prime time for soul searching. Practicing Meditation daily (15 minutes) absolutely will help you - and a dream journal.

With your 12th House placements, you’ll find support in a foreign country or within large institutions. Do you already live away from your birth place? Similarly, an example, you could train to become a nurse.

I recommend her, for more guidance. Seriously.
http://youtube.com/channel/UC1Q3g9wcmDORrrhJAb_AxOw

---

HI @vansio Thanks for taking time out to reply & giving me all this consideration. And a big thanks for all the encouraging words.Also please excuse my english, it's not my first language.
I must admit i really don't know what i am good at/love doing & it's hard not to lose hope . Would most definitely like to read your interpretation.
No i'm living at my birth place only...& i'll most definitely check out the youtube channel!
Thanks again!

posted December 03, 2021 09:10 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by saronna:
It's good for your 12th & second house sensitive/emotional self to work from home. I had a look at your second house & it's Capricorn it's good to work from home & start a business you own

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posted December 22, 2021 04:35 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by mirage29:
When you described yourself being an entertainer/actress, you were on-point with where your I-Am ego strengths shine.

You have strong ambitions.

You entertain a strong sense of 'I am' and Shine like an Actress, a Starlet. Perhaps your parents approved of what you portrayed. Encouraged it. Rewarded you for your portrayal as 'The Hero' stable self totally buying into that picture-portrayal of Who you are {who you think you're 'supposed' to be, in order to please and be accepted}.

It's also what you want the world to believe.
And 'you' believe that 'this' is what the World wants you to be.

But inside you --- your deep inner you, your mutable sensitive absorbing self .. abandons being on-stage during your performance as the outer-you. Your inner-you wishes to escape and be alone, and go into nature, and contemplate the intimate things of the Universe.

There's a "quincunx" problem, a mismatch exists, between your feeling Moon and your I-Am Self-- you're not always on the same wave-length. The two are not vibrating the same thing. One wants one thing, and the feelings decide on something else.

I once attended a certain Actor's Workshop with a known supporting-actor in some of the popular TV Shows in my time. {I'm an older person. He had acted roles in the original Star Trek series in America. Also was in some Western-themed shows, and crime-detective shows.}
. .
I paid very-close attention to the direction he gave others that attended; and the advice he had given 'me' was life-changing.

One of the things I learned in that Workshop is that you have a 'you', and that 'you' now portrays a Character he would assign us. We'd have to memorize a script. We'd act-out scenes with others in the workshop.

See... Your voice can be filled with the emotion of the scene you are giving to your audience with a certain 'believability' -- However, if your "feelings" are not matching-up to the very-line of 'emotion' you portray in this Character, then, it's going to have a kind of phony projected-presentation OF the Character you wish to portray.

Your deepest inner "feelings" have to rise up to MATCH and support the level of emotions of the Character you're playing.

For you,

Your MOON represents "feelings".
Then you have that beautiful Starlet which is definitely your strength. It's the STRONG part of who you ARE, your I-AM, and you present that AS your special Role. It feels wonderful. It's 'you' and you WANT very much to 'fully' fulfill this role you are playing.

You get up on that Stage, fully thinking that you FULLY play that part. ~~~~
. . but then . .
Your Moon, your "feelings" decide that they'd rather be doing something else!! .. You don't always "feel" what you want the rest of the world to accept and believe about you.

You might get jobs where one day you 'feel' it's right, then a few hours go by and you think, oh no, maybe this isn't "it" that this isn't for "you" and you want to leave because your mood shifted--- but you can't because you need that money to live.

You have a MOON in dreamy escapist Pisces.
That MOON needs to be nourished, in order to support what you NEED to do to keep a job.

Your MOON feels a Wealth in itself.
Your Sagittarian Soul wants/needs that Pisces Dreamer to find a way to cooperate, so the I Am part of you can Serve the Vision .. the wordless Vision?

Being a Performer is a strength for you.

If you can afford it, {have your parents be online with it}, you might do well to TAKE some Acting classes. This could even be very therapeutic for the inner-you, psychologically.

Join an Actor's club in your area.
There are Improvisation Acting clubs in many areas.
They get together at restaurants and stage-theatres, and learn the Arts, and give Presentations. {Even visit nursing homes and shut-ins.} Most of all, it's a great outlet, and you'll socialize. You'll learn more about 'you' too.

We have different kinds of 'banks' inside us.
Doesn't involve money.
In your teens and 20's your fill up what's called an Emotional Bank. It's full of your Values that you choose to keep or create while you went through the Saturn square transits of 19-21 or so years old.

And, during that time (and throughout your lifetime) you are also making Deposits into what's called an "Experience" Bank. ... From what I've been reading in your various posts, you are full of thoughts ideas plannings: but where you 'lack' is having a taste of the 'experience' of making your wondering-imaginations get some reality to it.

It's not too late to "try" various experiences you're imagining. Will help you narrow it down. Our 'imaginations' aren't telling us what is fully true.

You need to 'do'. You need some real-life experiences. This information you'll get (from 'experiencing' the various fields of interest) can assist you!! It will help you gauge where you want to end up in life.

For example, let's say you were thinking to be a cook--- but then, you don't demonstrate and test your ambition to BE one, for real. You could show that you want to be one, BY making special dinners that you throw a party to invite your friends to sample. .... HOW will you really know that THIS cooking is a good job/vocation 'for you'? ..
. . If you hear your friends say, maybe you need to think of doing something ELSE with your life??, then with that feedback, you'll save yourself time. *grin* Look into doing something else?

You possibly have one of the markers of being a stand-up comic, or speech giver.
Ever think of writing, then eventually getting up to an open-mic night to test your jokes, your poems, your ability to be a story-teller? ...
Even if it's just in front of your friends?

Also... with anything.... Going out to do some Volunteer Work IN the various fields of your 'possible' interests is a wonderful way to 'introduce' yourself to the bosses. Give each other a chance to see 'what you got'. They could even decide to 'train' you in something they see could 'fit' that job field.

In your Saturn Return, Saturn puts you through an array of TESTS. Its task is to show/demonstrate 'where' your strengths and your weaknesses are inside you.

When people don't know the astrology transits and WHAT they try to accomplish in forming 'who' you are, and 'what' you can and can't do for what you are wired with, they can come away from some HARD transits feeling like they just FLUNKED out of LIFE-itself...

This is Value that Astrology can bring you...
It's supposed to be there to help hone you into the Best self you can be, that you can Build.

It is VERY advantageous when you can have a circle of Good Friends too -- people who 'know and understand' you. They can be your feedback. {You have a GREAT 11th House... I've known people with some of your placements there. Their friends really show support for them-- and they reciprocate.}

You would do well with someone to Mentor you with looking at your talents, and giving solid advice.

Your culture is different from mine.
There are awful things going on in various countries right now that are Changing the Govts-- and some of those changes are for the worse!!!

What do your Parents do for money?
What did they choose to do with their lives?

What area of the Globe are you in???

I see you as asking for help, not just life, but for your mental state right now?

Talk with people who Know you.
Ask to sit down with some to discuss what you can 'do'?

Your Moon will not allow you to 'feel comfortable' with ANY decisions??

This task of making money is going to be made from common-sense mind. The feelings/emotions will have to discipline themselves. Play an inner game that you will reward self after doing good work.

I'll come back to see how you're doing later.
Gotta go for now.
My roommate wants computer-time.
It's his computer (not mine).

__________________
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Hi thanks for such a detailed answer..i have been keeping busy with a routine, hence the late reply. I agree with a lot of what you said-especially my inner me wanting to be alone. I may have an actor inside me but perhaps i'm way too shy.. Also i do keep on changing about what i want to do..How can moon be nourished? You're right i need to do something,not just imagining but don't you think that doing/trying so many things will make me lose even more time & getting confused. Why can't i recognize what i want to do with my life? Others very quickly do...

Anyway i just wanted to ask you any practical strategies to help me as to why i'm always looking for help left & right...i lack independence even when i go to work...i ask too many questions & i'm always looking for someone to help me. Tips to become more independent? Also i become lost in my thoughts a lot. I always made deluded career decisions based on what others are doing? I am also very emotional & sensitive...
Also any practical tips for communcaton skills- i feel like isolating myself. I am just very uninterested in talking/casual talks. I don't think i'll make a good writer(check my chart saturn in 3rd/mercury square saturn)..

posted December 22, 2021 05:03 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by mirage29:
When you described yourself being an entertainer/actress, you were on-point with where your I-Am ego strengths shine.

You have strong ambitions.

You entertain a strong sense of 'I am' and Shine like an Actress, a Starlet. Perhaps your parents approved of what you portrayed. Encouraged it. Rewarded you for your portrayal as 'The Hero' stable self totally buying into that picture-portrayal of Who you are {who you think you're 'supposed' to be, in order to please and be accepted}.

It's also what you want the world to believe.
And 'you' believe that 'this' is what the World wants you to be.

But inside you --- your deep inner you, your mutable sensitive absorbing self .. abandons being on-stage during your performance as the outer-you. Your inner-you wishes to escape and be alone, and go into nature, and contemplate the intimate things of the Universe.

There's a "quincunx" problem, a mismatch exists, between your feeling Moon and your I-Am Self-- you're not always on the same wave-length. The two are not vibrating the same thing. One wants one thing, and the feelings decide on something else.

I once attended a certain Actor's Workshop with a known supporting-actor in some of the popular TV Shows in my time. {I'm an older person. He had acted roles in the original Star Trek series in America. Also was in some Western-themed shows, and crime-detective shows.}
. .
I paid very-close attention to the direction he gave others that attended; and the advice he had given 'me' was life-changing.

One of the things I learned in that Workshop is that you have a 'you', and that 'you' now portrays a Character he would assign us. We'd have to memorize a script. We'd act-out scenes with others in the workshop.

See... Your voice can be filled with the emotion of the scene you are giving to your audience with a certain 'believability' -- However, if your "feelings" are not matching-up to the very-line of 'emotion' you portray in this Character, then, it's going to have a kind of phony projected-presentation OF the Character you wish to portray.

Your deepest inner "feelings" have to rise up to MATCH and support the level of emotions of the Character you're playing.

For you,

Your MOON represents "feelings".
Then you have that beautiful Starlet which is definitely your strength. It's the STRONG part of who you ARE, your I-AM, and you present that AS your special Role. It feels wonderful. It's 'you' and you WANT very much to 'fully' fulfill this role you are playing.

You get up on that Stage, fully thinking that you FULLY play that part. ~~~~
. . but then . .
Your Moon, your "feelings" decide that they'd rather be doing something else!! .. You don't always "feel" what you want the rest of the world to accept and believe about you.

You might get jobs where one day you 'feel' it's right, then a few hours go by and you think, oh no, maybe this isn't "it" that this isn't for "you" and you want to leave because your mood shifted--- but you can't because you need that money to live.

You have a MOON in dreamy escapist Pisces.
That MOON needs to be nourished, in order to support what you NEED to do to keep a job.

Your MOON feels a Wealth in itself.
Your Sagittarian Soul wants/needs that Pisces Dreamer to find a way to cooperate, so the I Am part of you can Serve the Vision .. the wordless Vision?

Being a Performer is a strength for you.

If you can afford it, {have your parents be online with it}, you might do well to TAKE some Acting classes. This could even be very therapeutic for the inner-you, psychologically.

Join an Actor's club in your area.
There are Improvisation Acting clubs in many areas.
They get together at restaurants and stage-theatres, and learn the Arts, and give Presentations. {Even visit nursing homes and shut-ins.} Most of all, it's a great outlet, and you'll socialize. You'll learn more about 'you' too.

We have different kinds of 'banks' inside us.
Doesn't involve money.
In your teens and 20's your fill up what's called an Emotional Bank. It's full of your Values that you choose to keep or create while you went through the Saturn square transits of 19-21 or so years old.

And, during that time (and throughout your lifetime) you are also making Deposits into what's called an "Experience" Bank. ... From what I've been reading in your various posts, you are full of thoughts ideas plannings: but where you 'lack' is having a taste of the 'experience' of making your wondering-imaginations get some reality to it.

It's not too late to "try" various experiences you're imagining. Will help you narrow it down. Our 'imaginations' aren't telling us what is fully true.

You need to 'do'. You need some real-life experiences. This information you'll get (from 'experiencing' the various fields of interest) can assist you!! It will help you gauge where you want to end up in life.

For example, let's say you were thinking to be a cook--- but then, you don't demonstrate and test your ambition to BE one, for real. You could show that you want to be one, BY making special dinners that you throw a party to invite your friends to sample. .... HOW will you really know that THIS cooking is a good job/vocation 'for you'? ..
. . If you hear your friends say, maybe you need to think of doing something ELSE with your life??, then with that feedback, you'll save yourself time. *grin* Look into doing something else?

You possibly have one of the markers of being a stand-up comic, or speech giver.
Ever think of writing, then eventually getting up to an open-mic night to test your jokes, your poems, your ability to be a story-teller? ...
Even if it's just in front of your friends?

Also... with anything.... Going out to do some Volunteer Work IN the various fields of your 'possible' interests is a wonderful way to 'introduce' yourself to the bosses. Give each other a chance to see 'what you got'. They could even decide to 'train' you in something they see could 'fit' that job field.

In your Saturn Return, Saturn puts you through an array of TESTS. Its task is to show/demonstrate 'where' your strengths and your weaknesses are inside you.

When people don't know the astrology transits and WHAT they try to accomplish in forming 'who' you are, and 'what' you can and can't do for what you are wired with, they can come away from some HARD transits feeling like they just FLUNKED out of LIFE-itself...

This is Value that Astrology can bring you...
It's supposed to be there to help hone you into the Best self you can be, that you can Build.

It is VERY advantageous when you can have a circle of Good Friends too -- people who 'know and understand' you. They can be your feedback. {You have a GREAT 11th House... I've known people with some of your placements there. Their friends really show support for them-- and they reciprocate.}

You would do well with someone to Mentor you with looking at your talents, and giving solid advice.

Your culture is different from mine.
There are awful things going on in various countries right now that are Changing the Govts-- and some of those changes are for the worse!!!

What do your Parents do for money?
What did they choose to do with their lives?

What area of the Globe are you in???

I see you as asking for help, not just life, but for your mental state right now?

Talk with people who Know you.
Ask to sit down with some to discuss what you can 'do'?

Your Moon will not allow you to 'feel comfortable' with ANY decisions??

This task of making money is going to be made from common-sense mind. The feelings/emotions will have to discipline themselves. Play an inner game that you will reward self after doing good work.

I'll come back to see how you're doing later.
Gotta go for now.
My roommate wants computer-time.
It's his computer (not mine).

__________________
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Hi thanks for such a detailed answer..i have been keeping busy with a routine, hence the late reply. I agree with a lot of what you said-especially my inner me wanting to be alone. I may have an actor inside me but perhaps i'm way too shy.. Also i do keep on changing about what i want to do..How can moon be nourished? You're right i need to do something,not just imagining but don't you think that doing/trying so many things will make me lose even more time & getting confused. Why can't i recognize what i want to do with my life? Others very quickly do...

Anyway i just wanted to ask you any practical strategies to help me as to why i'm always looking for help left & right...i lack independence even when i go to work...i ask too many questions & i'm always looking for someone to help me. Tips to become more independent? Also i become lost in my thoughts a lot. I always made deluded career decisions based on what others are doing? I am also very emotional & sensitive...
Also any practical tips for communcaton skills- i feel like isolating myself. I am just very uninterested in talking/casual talks. I don't think i'll make a good writer(check my chart saturn in 3rd/mercury square saturn)..

posted December 22, 2021 01:02 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by KAHRAMANBENDEN:
Hi thanks for such a detailed answer..i have been keeping busy with a routine, hence the late reply.

I agree with a lot of what you said-especially my inner me wanting to be alone. I may have an actor inside me but perhaps i'm way too shy..

Also i do keep on changing about what i want to do..How can moon be nourished? You're right i need to do something, not just imagining but don't you think that doing/trying so many things will make me lose even more time & getting confused.

Why can't i recognize what i want to do with my life? Others very quickly do...

Anyway i just wanted to ask you any practical strategies to help me as to why i'm always looking for help left & right...i lack independence even when i go to work...i ask too many questions & i'm always looking for someone to help me. Tips to become more independent?

Also i become lost in my thoughts a lot. I always made deluded career decisions based on what others are doing? I am also very emotional & sensitive...

Also any practical tips for communication skills- i feel like isolating myself. I am just very uninterested in talking/casual talks. I don't think i'll make a good writer(check my chart saturn in 3rd/mercury square saturn)..

Also does my 12th scorpio pluto make me a good psychologist?

Yes i'm thinking of volunteering too
Anyway thanks..

---

You're welcome {{ }} ... and,
I 'do' know how hard this is for you.

You used the word "practical", that you want 'practical' advice.. yes yes yes!!!!

What word is IN the word "practical"?
Answer: That word would be "practice"!!!

You've stayed soooo stuck in your head, your thoughts, your dreaming, that you have had no ACTUAL trying-out OF the things floating around your imagination.
{hug}

The other thing?.. If I can say this, because you ARE seriously asking for GENUINE and REAL advice to get your life moving.... K, I had read about your chart, aspects, tendencies: one of the things that's hampering your own efforts is that there is a 'laziness' mixed into parts of your chart. That might sound pretty shocking, right? ... yeah. Some of that confused, that mixy mixy, is that there's lack of discipline in the rudder of your life.

I don't know if you've ever read things about the medical condition called 'a lazy eye'? .. The person themselves didn't "cause" the lazy muscle that holds the eye forward and focused. It's not their 'fault'--- however!! That person NEEDS to do some corrective-measures FOR that eyeball that tends to want to roam around in the orbital socket of that person's face.
..
The condition is usually diagnosed while the person is in childhood. The parents, the doctors, work on ways to 'strengthen' the weaker roaming eye, by making it need to work harder than the stronger eye. The stronger eye became even MORE strong to compensate for the weaker eye.
..
They can do it 'on purpose' to blur the strong eye a bit, to make the weaker eye need to focus FOR the person to have vision.

I like symbolic examples of things.
If you do too (with your Moon in Pisces and Pluto in the 12th), you might read about what it might 'mean' if you applied it to your situation.
.. You wanted to know if you could possibly be a good psychologist?.. Well, this is a good exercise for you then.

When a psychologist forms a diagnosis, then, there is a "treatment" that gets applied. The child (or whoever the patient is) needs to 'DO' whatever 'work' (on the brain, on balancing strengths of mental capacities-- left brain, right brain, practicing with color pencils, etc.). The therapy requires the parents to help the child 'do' the required exercises.

What I mentioned in my first post to you---
is that you need to step OUT of your head, and INTO the world of real-life.

If someone talks to you about having a spaghetti dinner, and you've never TRIED it, .. then yeah, you can 'imagine' what it must probably taste close-to, ... but you'll NEVER know the taste until you go to the restaurant with your Friend. Sit down and physically ORDER the meal.... then you taste it.

Now, having a super-imagination IS a Strength, and an IQ Measurement area. It takes inborn 'talent' to be able to use the mind, use the imagination, to for example pick up an imaginary cube, and turn it all kinds of ways IN the mind.

Thing IS? you need the 'material' experience to go along WITH the mental.

One psychology experiment I recall from school was where they lined up students to do a "Basketball" practical experience.

One line of students would bounce the ball and shoot the hoop.
One line of students would just-sit and 'think' about 'what it's LIKE' to shoot balls at the basket.
The third line of students were given time to do BOTH: They would shoot hoops, and they could meditate on the experience of shooting the hoops.
. .
The RESULTS of the experiment showed that the students(subjects) who did BOTH, practice and focus on the mental experience, did the BEST on the Basketball Courts.

So... ... If we can now take you into that example?
You are VERY experiences at the "thinking" part of the experiment.
What you need NOW?... is to DO it.
Go shoot those balls at the hoops.

You are already defeated if you go take any kind of job with the thought in your head of how much you HATE to work.

New assignment for you?
TELL yourself (pretend!!), say outloud to yourself,
"I LOVE to Work!"
'For JOY, For JOY, yippeee 'I get PAID for this!!'"
"I like the feeling of having accomplished something in my real day life."

Practice the PRACTICAL, sweetie.
Maybe your not 'wanting' to do 'work' is like a 'lazy eye' problem.

You'll have to make "going to work" as FUN for you.

(music) movie: Mary Poppins
"A Spoon Full of Sugar" with lyrics
[3:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8VHc49ZdP4

You said you keep having to ask for help?
uhmmm yep. I read about the astrology of you doing that?
What the article said is that this is a way of 'procrastination' where it lets you AVOID doing any part of the work yourself?..
(oh my..?)

It could be good for you to observe yourself--
'think' about that?
Could it be true...?
What IF it were true,,,,?
etc etc

You're a very Brave Soul having ASKED for "Practical" advice.
That's a GREAT sign.
You'll go far...

Sending you MUCH Love!!

posted December 31, 2021 09:08 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
You're welcome {{ }} ... and,
I 'do' know how hard this is for you.

You used the word "practical", that you want 'practical' advice.. yes yes yes!!!!

What word is IN the word "practical"?
Answer: That word would be "practice"!!!

You've stayed soooo stuck in your head, your thoughts, your dreaming, that you have had no ACTUAL trying-out OF the things floating around your imagination.
{hug}

The other thing?.. If I can say this, because you ARE seriously asking for GENUINE and REAL advice to get your life moving.... K, I had read about your chart, aspects, tendencies: one of the things that's hampering your own efforts is that there is a 'laziness' mixed into parts of your chart. That might sound pretty shocking, right? ... yeah. Some of that confused, that mixy mixy, is that there's lack of discipline in the rudder of your life.

I don't know if you've ever read things about the medical condition called 'a lazy eye'? .. The person themselves didn't "cause" the lazy muscle that holds the eye forward and focused. It's not their 'fault'--- however!! That person NEEDS to do some corrective-measures FOR that eyeball that tends to want to roam around in the orbital socket of that person's face.
..
The condition is usually diagnosed while the person is in childhood. The parents, the doctors, work on ways to 'strengthen' the weaker roaming eye, by making it need to work harder than the stronger eye. The stronger eye became even MORE strong to compensate for the weaker eye.
..
They can do it 'on purpose' to blur the strong eye a bit, to make the weaker eye need to focus FOR the person to have vision.

I like symbolic examples of things.
If you do too (with your Moon in Pisces and Pluto in the 12th), you might read about what it might 'mean' if you applied it to your situation.
.. You wanted to know if you could possibly be a good psychologist?.. Well, this is a good exercise for you then.

When a psychologist forms a diagnosis, then, there is a "treatment" that gets applied. The child (or whoever the patient is) needs to 'DO' whatever 'work' (on the brain, on balancing strengths of mental capacities-- left brain, right brain, practicing with color pencils, etc.). The therapy requires the parents to help the child 'do' the required exercises.

What I mentioned in my first post to you---
is that you need to step OUT of your head, and INTO the world of real-life.

If someone talks to you about having a spaghetti dinner, and you've never TRIED it, .. then yeah, you can 'imagine' what it must probably taste close-to, ... but you'll NEVER know the taste until you go to the restaurant with your Friend. Sit down and physically ORDER the meal.... then you taste it.

Now, having a super-imagination IS a Strength, and an IQ Measurement area. It takes inborn 'talent' to be able to use the mind, use the imagination, to for example pick up an imaginary cube, and turn it all kinds of ways IN the mind.

Thing IS? you need the 'material' experience to go along WITH the mental.

One psychology experiment I recall from school was where they lined up students to do a "Basketball" practical experience.

One line of students would bounce the ball and shoot the hoop.
One line of students would just-sit and 'think' about 'what it's LIKE' to shoot balls at the basket.
The third line of students were given time to do BOTH: They would shoot hoops, and they could meditate on the experience of shooting the hoops.
. .
The RESULTS of the experiment showed that the students(subjects) who did BOTH, practice and focus on the mental experience, did the BEST on the Basketball Courts.

So... ... If we can now take you into that example?
You are VERY experiences at the "thinking" part of the experiment.
What you need NOW?... is to DO it.
Go shoot those balls at the hoops.

You are already defeated if you go take any kind of job with the thought in your head of how much you HATE to work.

New assignment for you?
TELL yourself (pretend!!), say outloud to yourself,
"I LOVE to Work!"
'For JOY, For JOY, yippeee 'I get [b]PAID for this!!'"
"I like the feeling of having accomplished something in my real day life."

Practice the PRACTICAL, sweetie.
Maybe your not 'wanting' to do 'work' is like a 'lazy eye' problem.

You'll have to make "going to work" as FUN for you.

(music) movie: Mary Poppins
"A Spoon Full of Sugar" with lyrics
[3:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8VHc49ZdP4

You said you keep having to ask for help?
uhmmm yep. I read about the astrology of you doing that?
What the article said is that this is a way of 'procrastination' where it lets you AVOID doing any part of the work yourself?..
(oh my..?)

It could be good for you to observe yourself--
'think' about that?
Could it be true...?
What IF it were true,,,,?
etc etc

You're a very Brave Soul having ASKED for "Practical" advice.
That's a GREAT sign.
You'll go far...

Sending you MUCH Love!!

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And i am taking your advice & ogoing to apply henceforth..That i love to work...i'll keep saying that in my head.
Regardless i am thinking of opening another topic of discussion- psychology itself.