posted January 30, 2003 06:57 AM         

First and foremost, that was a GREAT lexi, Aselzion. It certainly rang true for me not to mention it had a glimmer of hope to balance out all that gloom and doom I was picking up from our other lexis on Balmoral Castle and Bohemian Grove.

Further, I think you are very close, if not, right on about a connection to the Ark of the Covenant. Just my sense.

I received some interesting information from a friend last night (interesting timing). My friend's source said that the Cathari were a combined Grail Line lineage who descended from the Essenes and who held ancient records of the "two Christs" ascenson teachings. Further, they were rumored to have a power device from the Atlantian times. The "witchhunt" against the Cathari was to stop them from teaching the truths about the Christ lineage, planetary templar, star gates and ascension and of course to get their hands on the Cathari's "treasures". The Cathari hid their "treasures" and it is still not found today.

Now to further stir the pot...My friend's source said the Knights Templar also had this knowledge and were rumored to have the Ark of the Convennant for a short time.

Aselzion and others...does any of this ring true to you?

Interesting I get this information and you post this lexi...Are we being guided to a solution?

What about the Druids? Where are they in all this? The Cathari, Templars & Druids? Is there a connecting thread? My sense is that the Druids do have a role in this. But what? Could it have something to do with Balmoral Castle?

I will keep you posted as I learn more.

A Learning Angel

posted January 30, 2003 11:19 AM         

ALA.. not sure about the Druid connection. I'm not sure what I believe about the Druids (as opposed to the word druids) as so much contradictory material has been written about them...

My sense is that they were nature loving and peaceful, dedicated to spiritual unfoldment... but I'm not sure if the REAL Druids are still here on this plane, or if they went the way of the Eleves and Avalon and other magical beings that disappeared without a trace when man and war and hate started running amok...

My spider-sense is telling me that there's more to alot of this than meets the eye.

In terms of your massive Knights Templar Lexigram, if you don't want to post it, perhaps you could e-mail it to me, my e-mail addy is in my profile.

posted January 30, 2003 11:52 AM         

I'd like to ask Quinnie if she has any comments about the Druids. I, ignorantly, assumed they were still alive among today's Celts.

Your email is not in your profile. Please know I consider this in a draft form and I'm not ready to share it with too many people until I'm more comfortable with it. That said, I sense you may be able to give me some helpful feedback and will email it to you, if you share your email address.

posted January 30, 2003 01:08 PM         

I am not very familiar with Tarot, but there is something curious about that Devil card and the chained Adam and Eve.

Has anyone seen the British Royal Crest? Among other symbols, there is a Lion on one side and a Unicorn on the other. There are those who say that the Lion symbolizes a particular bloodline, the Royal bloodline/genetics, and that this Lion symbol is interchangeable with the Serpent. The Unicorn, according to this school of thought, symbolizes humanity or human potential. On the crest, the Unicorn is chained down.

Am I reading too much into this? Back again to Balmoral and the Royal family via the Cathars and the Knights Templar.

What kind of spiral has been sprung here?!

posted January 30, 2003 02:09 PM         

I'm pretty much a novice at most of what we are discussing but I have recently read a book about the period of Scottish history with W. Wallace & R the Bruce. I have not read where Wallace was a Templar but I HAVE read that The Bruce was and his great victory at Bannockburn was attributed to late arriving Templars.

I have read where Wallace was captured early in his wars (not the one where they killed him). He was left to starve in a prison and then thrown away when they thought he was dead. Apparently, he was found and nursed back to life. It is said he became a mystic after having a religious experiences while in prison.

I am not sure about the Balmoral lexi...sorry. Still learning!

posted January 30, 2003 02:13 PM         

ALA, my e-mail is aselzion@hotmail.com.

Ra: I didn't know about the royal crest I'll have to have a look at it.

The Lion, at least in my mind, has always been connected with Judah, as in the 12 tribes of Israel. Then, of course, there is the connection to Richard the Lion-hearted, but I don't know enough history to tell which family line he came from.

Very intriguing! We're on to something, but I'm not quite sure what yet!

Blessed Be...

posted January 30, 2003 03:40 PM         

His father was King Henry II of England and his mom was the famous Eleanor of Acquitaine (France).

His grandfather was Geoffrey Plantagenet, Count of d'Anjou, who was thought to be one of the original Knights Templars. Geoffrey married Matilda, the daughter of the King of England Henry I. Henry I was the son of William the Conqueror. Geoffrey was the eldest son of Fulk, King of Jerusalem.

His great grandfather, Fullk, was from a long line of Angevin kings. The legend was that these kings were descended from the daughter of Satan, and it was said: "From the Devil they come, and to the Devil they will return".

An interesting family...

ALA

posted January 30, 2003 04:23 PM         

How do you all feel about the history of Celtics, Saxons, and Anglos?

What about the Holy Grail and the Grail watchers?

What about the myth of Merlin and King Arthur?

...Are they all not connected?

Joseph Arimathea was the man who brought the Holy Grail to Briton in the dark ages from present day France.

posted January 30, 2003 08:43 PM         

Great food for thought! Can you explain your comments about the Druids using dark forces?

Weren't the Columba brothers on the island of Iona of druid descent?

Great information, Quinnie.

posted January 31, 2003 02:58 PM         

I'm thinking that Joseph was a descendant of Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ...there would be no other, good reason, as to why he would have the cup. However there really is no proof so it's very open to debate.

King Arthur really existed around the time 700 AD (there was no written history after the fall of Rome.) The Byzantine Empire also existed at the time.

Merlin really did exist, I think they have documented proof, of his prophecies.

The picture of The Devil originated from the greek god Pan. There were many religious sects that worshipped nature at the time, and the christians needed a reason to condemn them.

posted January 31, 2003 08:43 PM         

I always thought the Arthurian stories were symbolic.

posted February 01, 2003 08:38 AM         

The Aurthurian stories may well be symbolic here in the physical world of what is the etheric world. Perhaps the Aurthurian stories are the etheric stories of Jesus but as the etheric permeates the physical so all myths,legends and etheric stories have a physical actuality too...
And the Aurthurian stories are as real to the etheric world as Jesus is to the physical.
As above so below, as within so without...
And the etheric is as real to the initiate as the physical..

posted February 02, 2003 06:46 AM         

Thanks for sending the Lexigram.. it was very well done! Unlike your friend, it did not put me to sleep, but rather stirred my own spiraling.

I shall have to give "The Knights Templar" a go sometime in the near future!

Thanks, and keep up the good work!

posted February 02, 2003 03:17 PM         

With his thougts in my mind...I made a research in the internet and I found some absolutely fantastic things ... but I don't know if I will get to coordinate my thoughts in a logical way...
With my Aquarius Asc, not always I get to proceed in a straight line in my reasoning, but I will try...

Let's see if there is a link that tie Druids, Knight's Templars, The Cathars, The Devil Arcana ,Satan, Dragon, Serpent, Balmoral Castle, British Royal Crest, Richard the Lion-heart, Holy Grail, Avalon, Merlin, King Arthur, Mary Magdalene, Jesus Christ, Joseph of Arimathea... I should be forgetting someone, but for the time it is enough... I think !

I have a lot of information...that's why I'll post in many parts...

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It is said that Llewelyn Olaf ap Gruffudd, The Last True Prince of Wales, was a Knights Templar. He was also the greatest unifying force of Wales during the middle ages. After imprisoning his brothers and taking the kingdom of Gwynedd for himself, Llewelyn was able to assert his claim to be called "Prince of Wales".

The title was accorded him officially by Henry III in l267 at the Treaty of Montgomery recognizing the Welsh leader's claim to the three kingdoms of Gwynedd, Powys and Deheubarth. Wales was poised to take an early place among the developing independent nation states of Europe. All changed, however, and all too soon. The accession to the English throne of Edward I in l272 completely reversed the tide of affairs.

The ambition of King Edward was to unite the whole of the island of Britain under his kingship and this meant he had ultimately to conquer Wales and Scotland. Llewelyn's own formidable problems made the task a much easier one than was perhaps expected, considering the early defeats that the Welsh armies inflicted upon the invading English, not used to fighting in mountainous terrain.

In 1264, although Prince Llewelyn allied with Simon de Montfort against the King of England, his alliance was short lived. In 1265 Simon de Montfort was killed at the battle of Evesham, and the King of England pushed Prince Llewellyn deep into Wales. But finally at the treaty of Montgomery, Llewellyn succeeded in obtaining from the king, confirmation that he was the true Prince of Wales, and the right to demand homage by all the Welsh lords.

Prince Llewelyn was patron to Hywel Voel who was a Druid and Bard. Hywel Voel wrote of Prince Llewelyn's involvement with the Knights Templar and the Order de Sion.
Our records show that in 1271 A.D. Hywel commanded those trusted scribes and clerks who owed allegiance to him, to begin the task of compiling what was left of the known mystical knowledge of the Llewelyn family into ordered volumes. It is said that Hywel was the first to collect The Thirteen Treasures. He also caused The Owl, to be created. This was the first Grimoire or spell book of our tradition. The accumulation and recording of this knowledge, was no mean feat, for the political climate of those years was not conducive to study, travel or teaching.

The manuscripts also claim that relatives of Eleanor de Montfort, Prince Llewelyn's wife's, were initiates of the Ordre de Seon in France. Eleanor and Prince Llewelyn were first married by proxy in 1275. Eleanor's lineage was highly distinguished. Among her uncles was a king of England, a king of France, and a holy Roman Emperor. Eleanor sailed from France to Wales in 1275, but her ship was seized and she was imprisoned by the king of England, in Windsor castle.

At the Treaty of Aberconwy in l277, Prince Llewelyn was forced to accept humiliating terms and to give up most of his recently acquired lands, keeping only Gwynedd west of the Conwy River.

It was Also in this year that Hywel compiled the Thirteen Treasures and added additional knowledge from several sources: from the Druids came the sacred knowledge of the Stones; from the Order of the Knights Templars he added the Magick of the Egyptians (Hywel claimed that Prince Llywelyn was initiated into the Order of the Knights Templars in 1279 ); from the Persian Gypsies he added the Mithraic astrological mysteries; from Pictish ancestors came the remains of the Faerie tradition; from the nine maidens of the Isle de Seon came the ancient mystic knowledge of the Etruscans and the Ordre de Seon.

Prince Llewelyn died in 1282.

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posted February 02, 2003 03:26 PM         

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"We the Knights of Christ and of the Temple follow the destiny that prepares us to die for Christ. We have the wish to give this rule of living, of work and of honour to the constructors of churches so that Christianity can spread throughout the earth not so that our name should be remembered, Oh Lord, but that Your Name should live."

In 1095 , Pope Urban II declared a “holy war” against the Muslim invaders of the Holy Land, and launched an effort to retake the “sacred” city of Jerusalem; the infamous “Crusades” had thus begun .…

By 1099, this was accomplished. Then, in 1113, a new order was formed within the Catholic Church that came to be known as the “Knights Hospitalers.” One of the original members of this Order, St. Bernard of Clairvaux, also created a monastery in Seborga in northern Italy in 1113. Documents found in this ancient monastery state that it was built to protect a “great secret.”
Later, nine Knights (this number will become important later) split off from the original Knights Hospitalers and, all dependent on one another through a complex series of family relationships, presented themselves to King Baudoin I of Jerusalem in 1118 -- requesting the duty of keeping Christian pilgrims safe on the roads and highways leading to the holy city from the port of Jaffa. Obviously, such a task was far beyond the capabilities of a mere nine men, and the entire “protection gambit” was a ruse concealing another agenda for public consumption.

Upon arrival in Jerusalem, the Knights (under the patronage of this Vatican appointed Monarch of Jerusalem) proceeded directly to the Temple Mount, the ancient site of the Temple of Solomon, and immediately began excavating the (even then) ancient ruin. It is for this work that they received their name, the “Knights of the Temple” (Knights Templar).

According to Knight and Lomas in “The Hiram Key,” the Temple of Solomon was a structure designed under the precepts of "sacred" geometry by the earliest progenitors of Freemasonry, and was laid out in such a way as to invoke the essence of the Egyptian myths of Isis and Osiris. According to the Royal (British) engineers who later examined the excavations of the Templars (in 1867), the Knights in 1118 found a secret room beneath the Temple Mount, apparently knowing exactly what they were looking for and where to find it. Just “what” they found is the subject of legend, but it has gained scholarly support recently. According to the European Templar Heritage Research Network:

“On the exterior of Chartres Cathedral, by the north door, there is a carving on a pillar, which gives us an indication of the object sought by the burrowing Templars, representing the Ark of the Covenant, but in a rather strange context. The Ark is depicted as being transported on a wheeled vehicle. Legend recounts that the Ark of the Covenant had been secreted deep beneath the Temple in Jerusalem centuries before the fall of the city to the Romans. It had been hidden there to protect it from yet another invading army who had laid the city to waste. Hugh de Payen, one of the original nine Templar Knights, had been chosen to lead the expedition mounted to locate the Ark and bring it back to Europe. Persistent legends recount that the Ark was then hidden for a considerable time deep beneath the crypt of Chartres Cathedral.

The same legends also claim that the Templars found many other sacred artifacts from the old Jewish temple in the course of their investigations and that a considerable quantity of documentation was also located during the dig. While there has been much speculation as to the exact nature of these documents, a reasonable consensus is emerging that they contained scriptural scrolls, treatises on sacred geometry, and details of certain knowledge, art and science -- the hidden wisdom of the ancient initiates of the Judaic/Egyptian tradition.

Until very recently these legends received short shrift from academic historians, but that situation is undergoing considerable change. One modern archeological discovery tends to support the speculative scenario that the Templars knew where to look and precisely what they were seeking...

The Copper Scroll, one of the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered at Quamran, tends to confirm not only the objective of the Templar excavations but also, albeit indirectly, gives some credence to the bizarre concept of the transmission of knowledge through the generations that led to the original Templar discoveries underneath the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

“The Copper Scroll, which was unrolled and deciphered at Manchester University under the guidance of John Allegro, was a list of all the burial sites used to hide the various items both sacred and profane described as the treasure of the Temple of Jerusalem. Many of these sites have been re-excavated since the discovery of the Copper Scroll, and several of them have disclosed not Temple treasure but evidence of Templar excavation made in the twelfth century.”

After their excavations were completed at the Temple Mount, the Knights returned to their native lands. Two of them ventured to Rosslyn, Scotland, where they set up their headquarters. Shortly afterwards, the Knights were given the official seal of the Roman Catholic Church, and their numbers swelled as wealthy landowners and aristocrats joined their ranks.

The Templars went on a binge of Temple construction and brought back many sciences, such as astronomy, from the holy land. Their order grew in stature, wealth and power quickly, and they won battle after battle against the Muslims during the various crusades. Their secret power was supposedly that they held possession of a piece of the true cross of the crucifixion of Christ (probably found in the Temple Mount excavations). This gave them powers over their enemies in battle and they were said to have never lost a battle while in possession of the Cross.

They eventually lost the Cross in the battle of Hattin in 1187 to the Muslim Saladin. After marching on July 2nd, the Templars were surrounded and cut off from water supplies. On July 4th, they broke ranks in thirst and panic, abandoned the encampment and the Cross, and were wiped out by Muslim forces. (These two dates later would become crucial -- not only in the Templar-inspired formation of the United States of America...

Ultimately, despite the loss of the Cross, the Templars apparently became a threat to the Church itself. The Pope and the nearly broke King of France, Philip le Bel (1268-1314), plotted to undermine the Order and seize their considerable treasures in France. On Friday, October 13th, 1307, the King's men moved against the Knights and arrested many of them. (This is also why “Friday the 13th” is now considered ‘unlucky”).

Although the Papal conspiracy with King Philip succeeded in obtaining various "confessions" under torture and a considerable sum of Templar wealth, the conspirators never found the ultimate “Templar treasure” itself -- which by now had been secreted away to Scotland. Even so, most of the Order was wiped out in the “10/13” raid (the leader, Jaques de Molay, was burned at the stake), and its members scattered across Europe ... and beyond. On March 22, 1312, the Church officially dissolved the Order by Papal Bull .Surviving German members formed the Teutonic Knights, and the Scottish members went underground ... only to eventually re-emerge as “the Freemasons.”

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posted February 02, 2003 03:41 PM         

I will begin with the Pentagram , that I don't need to describe what it is... I just want to make a connection here ...

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The sacred caves of the Sabarthez cluster around the small resort town of Ussat-Les-Bains are known as 'doors to Catharism'. To reach Bethlehem, the most important of the Cave Churches of Ornolac, one must climb the steep Path of Initiation. The Cave of Bethlehem may well have been the spritual center of the Cathar world. For it was here that the 'Pure' candidate underwent an initiation ceremony that culminated in The Consolamentum.

Four aspects of the Cave were utilized in the ceremony:

·A square nich in the wall in which stood the veiled Holy Grail
·A granite altar upon which the Gospel of John lay.
·A pentagram hewn into the wall.
·Telluric currents eminating from the rock walls and floor.
A coin from the Cathars...looks like a Celtic Cross ...

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The Druids in Britain were forerunners of the Celtic Christian Church. He saw in the culture of the mediaeval Cathar stronghold of Languedoc strong resemblances to the Druids. Their priests akin to the Cathar Parfaits. The Cathar secret wisdom being preserved by the later Troubadours, the travelling poets and singers of the medieval courts of France.

Éliphas Lévi -A writer on Magical Freemasonry, that has been called, "the last of the Magi" and is best known for his Doctrine of Transcendental Magic (1855), Ritual of Transcendental Magic (1856) and History of Magic (1860), -say that the direction of the rays of the pentagram determine if it represents the good or evil principle: one point up representing order and light, two points up representing disorder and darkness.

The planet Venus makes a pentagram every eight years over "Rennes?!". What's the connection ?
Venus is Mary Magdalen's star. It's also the Morning Star, the star of Jesus.

There are five elements, four of matter ( earth, air, fire and water ) and THE quintessential - spirit. These may be arrayed around the pentagrams points.
- The word 'quintessential' derives from this fifth element - the spirit.