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Aselzion
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posted March 03, 2003 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Annie...

Yep, just started again actually after a several year hiatus. Working on The Master Pattern Lessons now, next up is the Tree of Life I believe.

Being born with the veil or "caul" is supposed to confer magical/psychic powers. I think it's when the amniotic sac comes out still covering the baby.

The "old wives" used to sell it to sea captains to help keep their ships safe when out to sea.

Well, do what you feel is the right thing. I know how hard it is to quest for knowledge and not find the answers that you seek in the various Paths you try. I found BOTA to be very reliable and useful, so I went back. Listen to your Inner Voice, and be led by that... you will do the right thing.

Blessed Be...

A

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A Learning Angel
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posted June 09, 2003 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A Learning Angel     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone read The Treasure of Montsegur by Sophy Burnham? It is a historical fiction of the Cathars.

The author comments:

"Pope Innocent III called for a Chrisian Crusade against another Christian Group. The largest army ever seen in Europe, perhaps as many as three hundred thousand men, gathered in the Languedoc region, which is now the south of France, to fight the heretics. The targets of their assault were known as Cathars, the Pure Ones, or Albigensians. They worshiped Christ, were pacifists, vegetarians, with strict rules of poverty, work, chastity, charity.

In January of 1244 the Cathars, seeing the end was near, smuggled their treasure gold and money off the mountaintop and hid it "underground" They held out for another 6 weeks, but on March 1, 1244 their fortress fell. The night before the surrender, three perfecti and one other, who may have been a guide, were lowered down the cliff on ropes and vanished into the woods. Their task: to keep their church alive.

The Cathar treasure has never been found. I'm told that Hitler sent an expedition to the south of France to search for it. Strange tales make more of the mystery, connecting the treasure and the Cathar heresy to the Knights Templar and various occult brotherhoods."

I just bought the book and can't wait to start reading it!

ALA

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Annie Kuzma
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posted June 10, 2003 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
http://gnosistraditions.faithweb.com/mont.html


Here is a brief history


PEACE AND LOVE
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StarLover33
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posted August 14, 2003 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message

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Annie Kuzma
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posted August 25, 2003 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
How weird!!

I was thinking of this and I was led back to here!!
(I guess you had to be there)

I would like to know what peoples opinions on King Author. If hereally lived, and what place he had in the scheme of things today!

I have always though he was real, and that he was connected to the magic part of life.

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StarLover33
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posted August 25, 2003 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Intuitively speaking...
The real story about Camelot was that it wasn't brought down by a love triangle. What had really happened, was back then, many people were practicing magick. It was apart of everybody's life. Many cults were created and some of them were really good and some of them were really bad.

The bad ones that were causing harm were being attacked by King Arthur. It was a War on Terror so to speak. Unfortunately the methods failed, because you can't attack hate with more hate. At the time Black Magick was very rampant and everybody tried hurting everybody else. And in the end it was all brought down. Christianity stepped in and changed all of that.

Christianity taught that magick was evil because of all the negativity that was created. Eventually everyone forgot about magick and began to live their lives without it. The sad part, is that it became so surpressed, that all the good left with it. Only a select few, kept all the knowledge from the mass, but this too was very bad. Even though, there was a good reason to remove magick, it was also a sad loss to remove vital knowledge.

But we'll find out that it was much better this way, and we'll learn not to repeat the same mistakes.

-StarLover

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