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jwhop
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posted May 22, 2006 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Monday, May 22, 2006 11:37 a.m. EDT
Big Chill Hits Gore Global Warming Movie

In just two days, former Vice President Al Gore's blockbuster global warming movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," hits theaters nationwide. But the weather doesn't seem to be cooperating.

Instead of the sweltering late-May temperatures that might give the impression there was something to Gore's claims that the planet is melting, New Yorkers turned up their thermostats Sunday night to fend off an unusual pre-Memorial Day chill.

In the lower Hudson Valley, frost warnings were issued, as the overnight temperature dipped to a chilly 38 degrees Fahrenheit.

The rest of the country was enjoying unseasonably cool weather as well, with Dallas and Atlanta - where the temperature often tops 90 degrees by late-May - coming in 10 degrees below seasonal norms.

Chicago's temperature had climbed to just 55 degrees by mid-morning.

Still, the late-spring cold snap has done nothing to chill Mr. Gore's overheated rhetoric.

"We face a planetary emergency," he claimed over the weekend. His film's promotional Web site declares:

"Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the world's scientists are right, we have just 10 years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet's climate system into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced - a catastrophe of our own making."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/5/22/113847.shtml?s=ic

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posted May 22, 2006 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mommie, why is it soooo cold?
It's global warming little Johnny!

But mommie, the snow's so deep I can't get out to catch the school bus and the door is frozen shut. I heard on the news people are freezing to death in Europe.
It's global warming little Johnny!

Later

It's really hot today mommie.
It's global warming little Johnny!

Later still

It's such a nice day today mommie, just right.
It's global warming little Johnny!

Oh, I understand now mommie.
If it's too cold, it's global warming.
If it's too hot, it's global warming.
And if it's just right, it's global warming.
That's right little Johnny, it's all global warming!

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posted May 22, 2006 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Extreme weather on the rise

Thursday, July 3, 2003 Posted: 4:38 AM EDT (0838 GMT)


(CNN) -- Anecdotal evidence that the world's weather is getting wilder now has a solid scientific basis in fact following a dramatic global assessment from the World Meteorological Organization.

A study released Wednesday by the WMO -- a specialized climate science agency of the United Nations -- says the world is experiencing record numbers of extreme weather events, such as droughts and tornadoes.

Laying the blame firmly at the feet of global warming, the agency warned that the number and intensity of extreme weather events could continue to increase.

Citing examples, the WMO said the 562 tornadoes which hit the United States in May this year was a record -- far higher than the previous monthly peak of 399 in June 1992.

Far colder and wetter conditions than normal also prevailed in the eastern and southeastern part of the U.S. for much of May and June.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/07/03/wmo.extremes/

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2006 Monthly Global Surface
Temperature Tracker

April 2006: 0.88°F above the 1880-2005 long-term mean. The 7th warmest April on record.


March 2006: 1.01°F above the 1880-2005 long-term mean. The 7th warmest March on record.


February 2006: 0.81°F above the 1880-2005 long-term mean. The 7th warmest February on record.


January 2006: 0.50°F above the 1880-2005 long-term mean. The 13th warmest January on record.


Source: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)


2006 Monthly Global Troposphere
Temperature Tracker
(Measured by Satellite for the layer
2-6 miles above the Earth's surface)

April 2006: 0.27°F above the 1979-2005 mean. The 7th warmest April on record.


March 2006: 0.18°F above the 1979-2005 mean. The 10th warmest March on record.


February 2006: 0.23°F above the 1979-2005 mean. The 10th warmest February on record.


January 2006: 0.16°F above the 1979-2005 mean. The 11th warmest January on record.


Source: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)
http://yosemite.epa.gov/OAR/globalwarming.nsf/content/NewsandEventsTemperatureTracke r.html


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Joint science academies’ statement:
Global response to climate change

Climate change is real

There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system
as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now
strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring
The evidence comes from direct measurements
of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean
temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in
average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes
to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that
most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed
to human activities(IPCC 2001)2. This warming has already
led to changes in the Earth's climate.


We call on world leaders, including those meeting at the
Gleneagles G8 Summit in July 2005, to:

* Acknowledge that the threat of climate change is clear and increasing.
* Launch an international study5 to explore scientifically informed targets for atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations, and their associated emissions scenarios, that will enable nations to avoid impacts deemed unacceptable.
* Identify cost-effective steps that can be taken now to contribute to substantial and long-term reduction in net global greenhouse gas emissions. Recognise that delayed action will increase the risk of adverse environmental effects and will likely incur a greater cost.
* Work with developing nations to build a scientific and technological capacity best suited to their circumstances, enabling them to develop innovative solutions to mitigate and adapt to the adverse effects of climate change, while explicitly recognising their legitimate development rights.
* Show leadership in developing and deploying clean energy technologies and approaches to energy efficiency, and share this knowledge with all other nations.
* Mobilise the science and technology community to enhance research and development efforts, which can better inform climate change decisions.

Academia Brasiliera de Ciências
Brazil

Academié des Sciences,
France

Accademia dei Lincei,
Italy

Royal Society,
United Kingdom

Royal Society of Canada,
Canada

Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher
Leopoldina, Germany

Science Council of Japan,
Japan

National Academy of Sciences,
United States of America

Chinese Academy of Sciences,
China

National Science Academy,
India

Russian Academy of Sciences,
Russia
http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf


2 IPCC (2001). Third Assessment Report. We recognise the international scientific consensus of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).


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posted May 22, 2006 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The sun is at a 300 year peak radiation cycle and Algore is predicting the end of the world....from man made global warming

I'm all for sending Algore on a mission to the sun to turn the thermostat down.

January 25, 2006

President Putin Orders Russian ‘Doomsday Bunkers’ In Ural Mountains To Prepare For International Crisis As Catastrophic Cold And Ozone Hole Hit European Continent

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

For only the second time in our Modern History a Russian Leader has issued an order for the preparation of our Motherlands Doomsday Bunkers in the Ural Mountains to prepare for a catastrophic ‘event’, FSB reports are saying today.

This most troubling of news comes at a time when our Global Weather Systems continue their unprecedented breakdown due to the ever increasing Cosmic Blasts assaulting our planet, and as we can read as reported by Australia’s ABC News Service in their article titled "2005 marked by 'extreme' climate: UN agency", and which says:

"The number of extreme climatic phenomena, from heatwaves, drought and floods to hurricanes, increased notably last year, the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) says. "In 2005 abnormal temperatures were registered in many areas of the globe," WMO secretary-general Michel Jarraud said.

They included "strong heatwaves which descended on a big part of continental Europe and North Africa in July," the head of the UN agency said. They also included the worst drought in Spain and Portugal since the end of the 1940s and floods which devastated parts of Russia and eastern Europe, and then Switzerland, Austria, Germany and the Czech Republic.

Outside Europe "a record number of hurricanes hit central America, the United States and the Carribean," he said, saying there could be a link between the freak weather and global warming, which he said could "have an impact on the natural variability of the climate". "We are still seeing an increase in the number of extreme meteorological and climatical phenomena of which some were of an unprecedented intensity," he said."

To the recent catastrophic effects of these unprecedented weather intensities hitting our Russia we can read as reported by the Christian Scientist Monitor News Service in their article titled "Russia's new cold war: -96 degrees F.", and which says:

"It has to be awfully cold before most Russian men will abandon their traditional machismo and lower the earflaps of their fur hats. Normally that pegs one as a wimp - or a foreigner. (Though Canadian, I've long-since adopted Russian ways and watch the other guys on the street before deciding whether to lower my earflaps.)

But it's been strictly flaps-down weather for over a week, as a relentless Arctic deep freeze strains the country's patience - and its sagging infrastructure. Moscow has endured bone-chilling temperatures, hovering between 4 and 29 degrees below zero F. for the past eight days, with another wave of frigid air in the offing.

Meteorologists recall that thermometers plunged slightly further, to 36 degrees below zero F., during a bitter 1979 cold snap. But no one can remember anytime when it was this cold for this long.

"We get a cold snap like this maybe once in 50 years. This isn't normal," says Nadezhda Satina, a leading specialist at the Moscow Weather Bureau, which has been deluged with calls from anxious Muscovites all week."

Being kept from the American people is the enormous scale of this recent catastrophic weather anomaly, and of whose extent we can readily see from these various reports:

As reported by the Itar-Tass News Service in their article titled "30 people die in Ukraine because of severe frost", and which says, "Frosts have paralyzed the life in all Ukrainian regions. Eastern regions, which find themselves in the center of the cold anticyclone, have suffered the most. Breakdowns of electricity power lines and heat supply systems have complicated the situation in many cities."

As reported by the Free Internet Press News Service in their article titled "Coldest Temperatures In 50 Years Hit Germany, Bavaria", and which says, "Germany was in the grip of some of the coldest temperatures in 50 years Monday after the recent freezing snap in Russia spread across much of Europe."

As reported by the Greek ANA News Service in their article titled "Snow front hits Greece, closing schools, tying up ferries and canceling flights", and which says, "All of Greece was in the grips of a snow and freezing temperatures front from Siberia on Tuesday, which has tied up ferry boats due to gale-force winds and caused cancellations of flights from Athens's Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport (AIA) to several domestic and foreign destinations due to heavy snow and frost on the runways at the destination airports."

As reported by Turkey’s NTV-MSNBC News Service in their article titled “Turkey under snow”, and which says, "Istanbul authorities have been put on red alert as the city is struck by one of the most severe winter storms in years."

As reported by Bulgaria’s Sofia News Agency in their article titled "Temperatures Drop to New Low in Bulgaria", and which says, "A wave of Arctic cold spread across the whole Bulgaria on Tuesday when temperatures hit a new low - minus 20 Celsius degrees in the northeastern part of the country."

As reported by the Reuters News Service in their article titled "Bitter cold leaves 40 dead in Baltics", and which says, "About 40 people have died in the three Baltic states in a wave of bitter cold gripping northern and eastern Europe, as one capital city shivered in its lowest temperature for half a century."

But to the worst of these reports comes from the Netherlands, and which confirms Russian Scientists conclusions that Ozone Holes in our Earth’s Atmosphere are not caused by human beings but are due to the catastrophic assaults being ravaged on our planet and affecting our weather, and as we can read as reported by the United Press International News Service in their article titled "Cold temps create Dutch ozone hole", and which says:

"Frigid temperatures in Europe and very cold air in the stratosphere have created a mini hole in the ozone layer above the Netherlands. A weather balloon recorded a new record low above the Netherlands of -86.8 Celsius. The extreme cold affects the chemical balance of the air currents. If low-lying clouds allow, Polar Stratospheric Clouds will be visible -- a rare sight in the Netherlands."

Our many warnings over these past years (including our December 22, 2004 report titled "Unknown Energy Surges Continue to Hit Planet, Global Weather Systems in Chaos", and our January 26, 2005 report titled "Powerful New Energy Surges Begin Hitting Southern Polar Region, Australia Hit With Hundreds of Thousands of Lightning Strikes") have continually fallen upon the deaf ears of the Western People, but with the recent news from these Western Nations making clear to us that the ability of their people to understand and comprehend true knowledge is almost completely gone, and as we can read from these reports:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index874.htm

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youve got to be kidding jwhop.....is this your only response to a presentation by 11 national science academies for the members of the g8 summit??

perhaps you can do better than these people did trying to figure out who "sorcha faal" is.....and what are her credentials???


http://www.rense.com/general63/sorcha.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/sorcha.htm

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Apparently the idiots at NewsMax have no concept of the effect of global warming on the waters of the Great Lakes. The Great Lakes are huge bodies of water and the temperatures of the Great Lakes have risen in the past years.

Then again, why would someone who denies the existance of global warming know the effects of it on large bodies of water or anything about it at all?

Besides that, Al Gore cannot do anything about the direction the wind blows and those in the Great Lakes region know that we have been getting winds down from the northwest for over a week now. Those Alberta clippers can drop the temperatures in the Great Lakes region in a minute. We have had to have the heat on here in Michigan at night. New York is also part of the Great Lakes region you know.

In the Great Lakes region we have had hotter and drier summers for some time now and it has remained hot well into late Oct. That is not normal for this area.


Global Warming Impacts Entire Great Lakes Region
Revised report on great lakes impacts from global warming

Article is from the Union of Concerned Scientists


A revised report, originally released in 2003, finds that the Great Lakes region may suffer from the effects of a changing climate more than previously thought. A team of leading scientists from Midwest universities and solutions experts at the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) recently found that extreme heat events are occurring more frequently, heavy precipitation events, both rain and snow, are becoming more common, air quality may deteriorate due to harmful gases released during more frequent forest fires and the number of summer pollution days may be on the rise. These changes will bring challenges to residents in Great Lakes cities as well as in rural areas, highlighting the need for action to forestall many of the most severe impacts.

Report co-authors, Dr. Donald Wuebbles, University of Illinois, Department of Atmospheric Sciences, and Dr. George Kling, University of Michigan, Department of Ecology and Biology, recently updated Confronting Climate Change in the Great Lakes Region: Impacts on Our Communities and Ecosystems and found new evidence of the impacts of climate change on the region.

"While updating the report we found several directly relevant studies published since the original findings were made public," says Wuebbles. "Most of the recent evidence corroborates the findings and flavor of the 2003 report. New findings include the fact that extreme heat events are occurring more frequently as are heavy precipitation events."

The report finds that lake-effect snow may increase as a result of warmer lake surface waters and decreased ice cover, burdening cities with increased cost for snow removal. Increased drought and flood events in the spring and summer may also put a strain on municipal budgets for sewer infrastructure. A warming climate will increase the severity, and potentially the number, of pollution/ozone episodes in region.

Fortunately, clean energy solutions are readily available to help curb global warming pollution while boosting the economy in Illinois. A recent UCS analysis, Renewing America's Economy, found that a national standard requiring that 10 percent of U.S. electricity come from renewable resources by 2020 would reduce global warming emissions by 5.5 percent.

Strategies for reducing emissions include increasing energy efficiency and conservation in industries and homes, boosting the use of renewable energy sources such as wind power, improving vehicle fuel efficiency, reducing the number of miles driven, avoiding waste, and recycling.

Global Warming Means More Snow For Great Lakes Region
Global warming has had a surprising impact on the Great Lakes region of the U.S. -- more snow. A comparative study of snowfall records in and outside of the Great Lakes region indicated a significant increase in snowfall in the Great Lakes region since the 1930s but no such increase in non-Great Lakes areas.

This is from ScienceDaily

Source: Colgate University

A team of researchers, led by Colgate Associate Professor of Geography Adam Burnett, published the study, "Increasing Great Lake-Effect Snowfall during the Twentieth Century: A Regional Response to Global Warming?" in the November issue of the Journal of Climate.

Syracuse, NY, one of the snowiest cities in the U.S., experienced four of its largest snowfalls on record in the 1990s -- the warmest decade in the 20th century, as a result of global warming.

"Recent increases in the water temperature of the Great Lakes are consistent with global warming," said Burnett. "Such increases widen the gap between water temperature and air temperature -- the ideal condition for snowfall."

The research team compared snowfall records from fifteen weather stations within the Great Lakes region with ten stations at sites outside of the region. Records dating back to 1931 were available for eight of the lake-effect and six of the non-lake-effect areas. Records for the rest of the sample date back to 1950.

"We found a statistically significant increase in snowfall in the lake-effect region since 1931, but no such increase in the non-lake-effect area during the same period," said Burnett. "This leads us to believe that recent increases in lake-effect snowfall are not the result of changes in regional weather disturbances."

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posted May 22, 2006 07:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah...your source looks like a real winner there, jwhop.

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Wanted to add that we have had more ozone alert days in the summer within the past 5 years or so.

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"While updating the report we found several directly relevant studies published since the original findings were made public," says Wuebbles. "Most of the recent evidence corroborates the findings and flavor of the 2003 report. New findings include the fact that extreme heat events are occurring more frequently as are heavy precipitation events."


This is also true of Michigan. We have had more lake effect snow than normal in the winter and more rain in the Spring which has in the past few years given way to extremely hot and dry conditions in the summer. And as I stated the hot weather has been lasting well into Oct. when it normally would turn real cool here. We have also had more grass and forest fires than in the past. Forest fires were always rare occurances in Michigan.

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posted May 22, 2006 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My source is the equal or superior to the global warming nuts using junk science to stampeded the world into turning over rule making for energy use to the UN.

Besides, all those juicy grants and contracts let to study the issue... Job security for bunglers.

Nor am I surprised to see India and China pushing the issue. Both countries are immune from Kyoto regulations. But it is a good issue with which to shut down US manufacturing and transportation.

These nuts have it backwards. Neither the earth's surface or the atmosphere is warming because of rising CO2 levels.

CO2 levels are rising because of global warming of the CO2 sinks of the planet..which are the oceans...which are being warmed by both underwater volcanic activity and increased radiation from the sun striking the oceans.

By late August, Gulf of Mexico water temperatures will be in the 88-89*F range...caused by radiation from the sun striking the water's surface.

Perhaps those rising CO2 levels will help to feed a hungry planet. Plant life, including food crops thrive in elevated CO2 environments and produce bumper crops.

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CHAIR’S SUMMARY, GLENEAGLES SUMMIT, 8 JULY


Climate Change

We were joined for our discussion on climate change and the global economy by the leaders of Brazil, China, India, Mexico, and South Africa and by the heads of the International Energy Agency, International Monetary Fund, United Nations, World Bank, and the World Trade Organisation.

We have issued a statement setting out our common purpose in tackling climate change, promoting clean energy and achieving sustainable development.

All of us agreed that climate change is happening now, that human activity is contributing to it, and that it could affect every part of the globe.

We know that, globally, emissions must slow, peak and then decline, moving us towards a low-carbon economy. This will require leadership from the developed world.

We resolved to take urgent action to meet the challenges we face. The Gleneagles Plan of Action which we have agreed demonstrates our commitment. We will take measures to develop markets for clean energy technologies, to increase their availability in developing countries, and to help vulnerable communities adapt to the impact of climate change.

We warmly welcomed the involvement of the leaders of the emerging economy countries in our discussions, and their ideas for new approaches to international co-operation on clean energy technologies between the developed and developing world.

Our discussions mark the beginning of a new Dialogue between the G8 nations and other countries with significant energy needs, consistent with the aims and principles of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. This will explore how best to exchange technology, reduce emissions, and meet our energy needs in a sustainable way, as we implement and build on the Plan of Action.

We will advance the global effort to tackle climate change at the UN Climate Change Conference in Montreal later this year. Those of us who have ratified the Kyoto Protocol remain committed to it, and will continue to work to make it a success.
http://www.g8.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1119518698846

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Listen, I recognize that the surface of the Earth is warmer and that an increase in greenhouse gases caused by humans is contributing to the problem......July 6, 2005--President and Danish Prime Minister Rasmussen Discuss G8

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050706-3.html


PDF · Signed Version of Gleneagles Communique on Africa, Climate Change, Energy and Sustainable Development (PDF, 328K)
http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kfile/PostG8_Gleneagles_Communique,0.pdf


George W Bush, President of the United States of America


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Well, if the global warming nuts are right then that should be translating into some record high temperatures.

Just for fun, let's look at Ann Arbor, MI.

Here's the record highs and lows for the month of May
http:// www.weather.com/weather/climatology/USMI0028?climoMonth=5&cm_ven=AOLSvc&promo=0&site=aolservicewx&cm_ite=CityPage&par=aolsvc&cm_pla=WxPageCC&cm_cat=AOLServiceWx[/URL]

Here's June

http://www.weather.com/weather/climatology/USMI0028?climoMonth=6&cm_ven=AOLSvc&site=aolservicewx&promo=0&cm_ite=CityPage&par=aolsvc&cm_cat=AOLServiceWx&cm_pla=WxPageCC

Here's July
http://www.weather.com/weather/climatology/USMI0028?climoMonth=7&cm_ven=AOLSvc&promo=0&site=aolservicewx&cm_ite=CityPage&par=aolsvc&cm_pla=WxPageCC&cm_cat=AOLServiceWx

Here's August
http://www.weather.com/weather/climatology/USMI0028?climoMonth=8&cm_ven=AOLSvc&site=aolservicewx&promo=0&cm_ite=CityPage&par=aolsvc&cm_cat=AOLServiceWx&cm_pla=WxPageCC

Here's September
http://www.weather.com/weather/climatology/USMI0028?climoMonth=9&cm_ven=AOLSvc&promo=0&site=aolservicewx&cm_ite=CityPage&par=aolsvc&cm_pla=WxPageCC&cm_cat=AOLServiceWx

Notice anything? There is only 1, one record high set in Ann Arbor, Michigan since year 2000 and lots of record highs set 100 years ago or earlier In fact that record high was set August 8, 2001 at 98*F. The day before record was set August 7, 1918 at 100*F.


We're having a heatwave, a tropical heatwave....

You can check the record highs and lows for your area by going here
http://aolsvc.weather.aol.com/main.adp?location=USFL0438

and typing the name of your city in the search window above and to the right of the 7 day forecast. When your city comes up, look under the "Current Conditions" window for "Averages, Records and click that link.

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posted May 22, 2006 08:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you don't actually understand the actual projections for global warming, do you?

Is that what you're saying?

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I don't know how else to say this..but to just say..that Global Warming..is not happening..Mother Earth goes in cycles..like the seasons..changes need to occur..or we could re-verse the poles..with Love and Light..that would make things Super and Natural to happen..Magic!

Love and Respect for ALL. ...

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I understand they are projections quite well and that's the problem, they are projections which are not and have not tracked with reality because of faulty computer models and asinine assumptions input in some cases to hype man made CO2 global warming by those attempting to deliberately alarm. That is already established and admitted...attempts to hype and alarm.

Lotus has it right...cycles, natural cycles, cycles of sun activity warm and cool the earth and have for hundreds of millions, and perhaps even billions of years.

Be thankful for the warm cycle we're in now. The earth is not nearly so hospitable during the cool or cooling cycles.

Unless of course, you would enjoy seeing 50 to 70% of the world's population perish from starvation, because that's exactly what would and will eventually happen with shorter growing seasons, lower temperatures and lower CO2 levels.

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Notice anything? There is only 1, one record high set in Ann Arbor, Michigan since year 2000--jwhop


january 1 2005 record high 54°F
january 1 2002 record high 55°F
march 5 2004 record high 65°F
april 15 2002 record high 84°F
april 16 2002 record high 85°F
april 17 2002 record high 84°F
april 18 2004 record high 85°F
april 19 2004 record high 84°F


record highs and lows, in one place or another mean nothing anyway, its the average yearly temperature across the globe thats going up

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The most recent date you had on all those mean charts is 2002, Jwhop and the other charts are all earlier dates.

Average mean charts don't prove anything about global warming.

Are you so pretentious as to tell me that you know more about the changes in the weather patterns here in Michigan where I have lived for 57 years than I do just because you got an average mean chart from the Weather Channel, Jwhop?

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Guess you never heard but there were 5 or 6 vote recounts in Florida and Algore lost every one. Even with massive voter fraud, illegal aliens and felons voting for Algore, he still lost. Even with cheating by Algore operatives during the recounts, Algore still lost the recounts. Which only proves that Algore isn't smart enough to be President and almost everyone in America is damned glad he isn't given the events of 9/11. We did find out one important fact as a result of all that ballot scrutiny 87% of felons who voted illegally voted for Algore.

In spite of all that, there were chads all over the floor in some Dimocrat districts as Algore folks simply punched them out---for Algore of course. Algore lost, get over it.--jwhop
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000177.html



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First, it was Algore who went to court to have the results of the election overturned and filed suits in the Florida courts to do so.

At that point, Algore realized that if the very same standard had to be applied to every "undervote" to determine whether a vote for Gore or Bush or the voters intent was to not vote for President at all, then he would lose. None of that liberal "I feeeeel this is a vote for Algore" allowed.--jwhop http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000296-2.html


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Algore Lays Another Ice Cube--jwhop


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I'm all for sending Algore on a mission to the sun to turn the thermostat down.--jwhop

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But none of the Republican lapses in conservative governance could match the catastrophe of an Algore or Kerry presidency--jwhop

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jwhop, you claim youre not rush limbaugh, and insist adamantly that you dont follow him.....yet the running joke by rush limbaugh, ever since his tv show, is that the name al gore is to be said as one word.....algore

here are excerpts from his 1993 book, See,I told you so....

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# Hardcover: 384 pages
# Publisher: Atria (November 1, 1993)
# Language: English
# ISBN: 067187120X

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A few days later, the authoritative journal Science published a story headlined 'Ozone Takes Nose Dive After the Eruption of Mt. Pinatubo.' It pointed out that the ozone layer should show significant signs of recovery by 1994. But have you heard Algore or any other ozone alarmist step up and admit that he or she perpetuated ( sic ) a fraud on the American people?" 18 --Rush Limbaugh See, I Told You So, p. 179.


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"Algore's book is full of calculated disinformation. For instance, he claims that 98 percent of scientists believe global warming is taking place.--Rush Limbaugh See, I Told You So, pp. 162-63.


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"Algore told the Washington Times on May 19, 1993: 'That increased accumulations of greenhouse gases, particularly CO2, cause global warming, there is no longer any serious debate. There are a few naysayers far outside the consensus who try to dispute that. They are not really taken seriously by the mainstream scientific community.' Yet we saw in the last chapter that there is nothing resembling a consensus on this issue among scientists who have some expertise in this area. In fact, a majority clearly does not believe global warming has occurred."--Rush Limbaugh See,I Told You So, p. 179.

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"It reminds me of the researchers who recently ventured into the forests of California. Do you know what they found? No, not Algore. They found spotted owls. --Rush Limbaugh See,I Told You So, p. 177.

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/documents/2432_WayThingsReallyAre.pdf


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Jargon of The Rush Limbaugh Show
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Algore
Former Vice President Al Gore. This nickname was originally used in a parody of Count Dracula involving “Count Taxula” (voiced so as to sound like Bill Clinton) and his loyal servant “Algore” (as in Igor). The nickname “Algore” was used extensively on the show during the U.S. presidential campaign in 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show

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i suppose thats just another big "coincidence" eh rush??....er, i mean jwhop.......


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posted May 22, 2006 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First Petron, I looked at the warm months in Ann Arbor..May, June, July, August and September.

It was never my intention to post every month of the year. That's why I posted the site link and way for others...including you to look for yourself/themselves.

Second the additional information you posted for the winter months in Ann Arbor means that out of a possible 2330 days or so since January 1, 2000 only 9 days were record highs

Third, I'll bet those folks in Ann Arbor really liked those record high temps on those winter days.

Fourth, I am not now, nor have I ever been Rush Limbaugh and I don't know Rush Limbaugh though I hear he's a sterling fellow.

Fifth, everyone knows Al Gore's nickname is Algore so it's no secret.

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posted May 22, 2006 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't remember saying anything about mean temperatures or average mean temperatures Mirandee.

Do you even know what the mean....means

Are you so pretentious as to suggest you know more about the temperature patterns in Ann Arbor, Michigan than the weather channel which collects those temperature readings from highly accurate instruments?

I believe your statement the latest mean temperature chart is for 2002 is wholly faulty Mirandee. But being the lovable little fuzzball I am, I'm willing to listen to your explanation for why you're right.

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awwwwww.....

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But being the lovable little fuzzball I am....

you know, i believe you are.

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Fifth, everyone knows Al Gore's nickname is Algore so it's no secret.--jwhop


haha yea....

anyone who listens to rush limbaugh knows thats rushs nickname for gore......

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I don't consider myself an offensive guy. I am just a harmless lovable little fuzzball. --Rush Limbaugh

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Y U K !

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