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lotusheartone
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posted June 23, 2006 11:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all about Respect for our fellow huMan
beings. ...

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fayte.m
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posted June 23, 2006 11:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Eleanore
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posted June 23, 2006 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I wasn't even going to comment on that but ...

Lialei, I must admit that I find

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DAY 7
to be pretty insulting.

But before I assume something incorrectly ... what exactly are you trying to say by posting a graphic of Jesus hanging on the cross with the words "Day 7" hovering above it which apparantly suggests the length of this so-called "trial" (which it most definitely is not, btw).

See, to me it seems that you are equating/comparing the sacrifce of Jesus Christ's life on the cross with the public outing of SOME of the nastiness going on behind LL's back by a FEW of KS's members. And I know I have to be misinterpreting that because the very notion is undeniably absurd. Nobody here is being made any kind of martyr but even if in a delusion someone perceived that to be the case ... hardly could they equate their "suffering" with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.


That's the most obvious assumption.

However, maybe you're trying to suggest that "it's been 7 days" already and don't forget, "Jesus died to forgive us our sins and so should you", which is equally absurd. Jesus didn't say, "hey, some of my friends did something kinda' wrong a while back but it was never meant to hurt anybody or even be found out so please stop harping on about it and just forigve them already you bad guys." No, what he did do was ask God to forgive those who were murdering him because they didn't "know" what they were doing.


So, yeah, I know I must be missing something in that post ... and clearly something funny since Mirandee thought it was hysterical.


Mind you, I'm not saying you're "not allowed" to post that kind of thing. I just don't understand what you mean by it and I found my first impression of it to be insulting. So could you please ease my mind and let me in on the big joke?

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"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall

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lotusheartone
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posted June 23, 2006 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
plain and simple, disrespect! Eleanore. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted June 23, 2006 11:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I'm tired..that's what this is all about disrespect..wrong doing. ...and they continue to do it..

oh my. .

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Eleanore
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posted June 23, 2006 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Johnny

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Additionally, no one here has been called Satan, Hitler, a closet homosexual, a murderer or any of the nice things some here have called the President.

There's the whole quote, for one. For two, jwhop is simply making a list of things that others here have said about Pres. Bush in an attempt to insult him. Mind you, they weren't trying to insult him by calling him a homosexual ... they were calling him a closet homosexual which suggests he's afraid and/or in denial of his supposed homosexuality and are passing that off as some kind of derogatory remark about him. Frankly, I find being called a closet anything to be a bit offensive because it implies shame. And I don't think those here who have referred to Pres. Bush as a closet homosexual (which jwhop did not do) meant it as a compliment, either. Though it would be nice to see them try to defend it as such.
So, yeah, I'd take issue with the ones who did call Pres. Bush a closet homosexual in an attempt to insult him when it comes to discrimination against sexual orientation, if that can be proven to be the case.


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Oh yeah, btw, jwhop is saying that no one here has called Mirandee any of those things in the above quote (and more) and that thus she's been treated better than Pres. Bush by those who call him, among other things, a closet homosexual, to insult him. Get it? Other people here have tried to use "closet homosexuality" as an insult and jwhop is actually pointing out how wrong that is. Am I making sense? It's late. But thanks for reading anyway.

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"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall

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lotusheartone
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posted June 23, 2006 11:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eleanore. ...

Ggodnight . .

Love and Respect for ALL....

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fayte.m
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posted June 23, 2006 11:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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jwhop
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posted June 24, 2006 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously Johnny, being called Satan or a closet homosexual are two different kinds of insults, two different orders of magnitude for certain.

Both were intended to be insulting to the President, however.

Since you're the one whining about being insulted here Mirandee, perhaps you'll stop your insulting personal attacks on the President and talk about issues instead.

No rack needed, a spotlight will do.

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Johnny
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posted June 24, 2006 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eleanore, I hadn't considered it being the "closet" part of "closet homosexual" that was used in comparison to Hitler or murderers. I still don't think it's the same in terms of severity, but at I suppose it's not nearly as offensive, either.

If that's what Jwhop meant, my interpretation was off. I agree, let us not be "closet" anythings.

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Petron
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posted June 24, 2006 12:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eleanore....

i think lialei was refering to these remarks by acousticgod.....


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People are already attempting to crucify me, so why not claim my friendship with this sinner?

we're either crazy, huge Jesus-like Christians.....--acousticgod


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Petron
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posted June 24, 2006 12:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fayte, in answer to your question....

you do what i'm doing now.....just like i did last fall

believe me, despite what you might think.... this is not winning me any "popularity points"

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ozonefiller
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posted June 24, 2006 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People are already attempting to crucify me, so why not claim my friendship with this sinner?

It does seem like he thinks that he is some kind of a God, doesn't he?

I haven't seen anything from him that would defend his website to any part my claims about it either.

Maybe he's in the middle of building another website(but this one is more private), so he can make all his rants, while "the accepted ones" can fight his battles for him, while he is sitting back and watching the whole show!

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Mirandee
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posted June 24, 2006 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO, Fayte

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Johnny
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posted June 24, 2006 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It does seem like he thinks that he is some kind of a God, doesn't he?

Oh good lord. Gotta love a yes-man. I feel like puking.

EDIT:

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I haven't seen anything from him that would defend his website to any part my claims about it either.

And why the hell *should* he? How long has he been doing this, for, now?

Exasperation.

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Mirandee
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Mirandee
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I'd lend you my bucket to puke in but it's full at this point, Johnny.

We have had the orginal KS, then KS II - the son of KS - then it branched out like tentacles into two other threads. I would say it has come to the point of obsession with these people.

I was wrong about it being a trial, Elanore. It is more like The Inquisition.

You see, during The Inquisition they tortured the Jews until they made them convert to their way of thinking. Get the point anyone?

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ozonefiller
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posted June 24, 2006 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes-man?!? What... for having my own opinion about what you and your fellow cronies have been trying to do?

I'm not the one that is winning any favorites here, people pretty much know what I'm about or maybe chose what I'm about, but least I'm not winning any favorites to those that are trying to win any favorites to me by buttering me up.

I see what you, Maget and A-God is doing is trying to rip apart anyone and anything that you don't agree with and that isn't too hard to figure out really!

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Mirandee
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posted June 24, 2006 12:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So much for looking at both sides and understanding what each one is trying to say here, huh, Ozone?

It must have been a momentary lapse of reason into a spiritual moment that made you say those things.

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ozonefiller
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posted June 24, 2006 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And why the hell *should* he? How long has he been doing this, for, now?

I only took notice as soon as Pid brought it up. If I noticed sooner, I would said this sooner.

So what's your point Johnny?

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Johnny
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posted June 24, 2006 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm not the one that is winning any favorites here

And steal your lines from Petron while your at it.

I've seen enough of you to form my own opinions, too, Ozone. Self-congratulatory and at least smart enough to see which way the wind is blowing. You can take your opinions of my 'cronies' and me and shove 'em.

Oh, god, I hope you don't sick your powerful magic on me, now. We know how effective that is, 'especially in battle,' huh?

Gotta love the Internet.

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Mirandee
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posted June 24, 2006 01:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing about magic is that you have to believe in it for it to work, Johnny

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ozonefiller
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posted June 24, 2006 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirandee and Johnny, what if the ones that have been complaining about this started doing the same thing to you guys, how fast would you cry foul?

Back-biting isn't apart of Magick, what your doing is deception as soon as you started talking about someone else that wasn't there to defend themselves!

I don't do that!

I think that I'm fair about this!

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Johnny
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posted June 24, 2006 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mirandee and Johnny, what if the ones that have been complaining about this started doing the same thing to you guys, how fast would you cry foul?

Doing what? Talking about me behind my back? Personally, I couldn't care less. Forming their own website? Same.

And Mirandee already mentioned that she found KS, found a thread mentioning her, and didn't care. If you had your facts, you would know this. Easier to just adopt other people's opinions though, huh?

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Back-biting isn't apart of Magick, what your doing is deception as soon as you started talking about someone else that wasn't there to defend themselves!

Yes. Magick. With a 'k,' nonetheless.

Where's AG, anyway? I mean, you certainly talk about him like he's not here...

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I don't do that!

*I* didn't either. I haven't seen anyone, in all the 50 some-odd pages of this tripe, claiming I have.

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I think that I'm fair about this!

No doubt.

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Lialei
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posted June 24, 2006 01:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sigh.

Anything I say will be disected, picked apart and distorted beyond recognition, right?

So, tell me why I would begin to hope at this point in human nature's ability for compassionate reconciling reciprocation?

It was a chronological observation; more a hopeless sighing than in jest. Although, really, it's after midnight now and so we're on DAY 8, and I'm having a more difficult time after reading what I have, to be joking at all.

I would never claim to be like Christ.


mar·tyr

1 : a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion
2 : a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle
3 : VICTIM ; especially : a great or constant sufferer <a martyr to asthma all his life -- A. J. Cronin>

Not 1, obviously...NEVER 3,
but I would try for 2 certainly.
Honor and integrity.
Beautiful traits that are dying to this world.

It was nice to hear a more accurate portrayal for a change, Fayte.


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