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Harpyr
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posted June 22, 2006 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Mirandee!


and I think your assessment of lotus' M.O. is pretty accurate.


and I also would like this whole nasty business to be done with.

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that most people love to see blood and guts and love to witness a good fight to the bitter end.

This is all the reason why I think that threads like these last as long as they do!

I tell ya, I haven't seen a thread that lasted this long in such a short period of time like this one has ever. I guess that would tell anyone something about this heated debate no matter how dishearting it can be to some.

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I can say on this that however that I can see each and everyone's point of view on this subject, but I don't believe it was just anyone person that started all of this. I feel that this was a little mishap that occurred that stood out by good reason in a way, but was led under false pretenses once the ones that were not involved started becoming topic subjects in another website, I can see how that might bother anyone!

Here, I'm witnessing for myself that on a more neutral point that their are some that talked about others in the past behind closed doors that don't like it once it was done to themselves and then I'm seeing the ones that are claiming that it is OK for them to talk about "so-n-so" so "so-n-so" should just butt out of they're business.

Hmmmm...

I like to step outside of myself every once in a while and place myself in another's shoes and to tell you all the truth, nobody really understands the other unless they themselves endure in the others pain by "forcible mishap", thus now the other one will say, "Well, you don't know how I really feel then",but that person really does, but doesn't realize outside of themselves to undergo of that we all go through of the same things actually!

Maybe if we all take that little glimpse outside of ourselves every once in a while and look into what that other person might be feeling. Then maybe we can all understand better of what we are really doing to ourselves in the long run and then maybe this would end, but I know that will never happen, for it is a human nature to decieve, it is only a sin once it is done to our own being at that.

We do this to eachother each and every day in this world. How many times does this happen on a daily basis one must ask themselves? All the time...

...it's just this time around, someone got caught within the ebb and flow and the natural order of things!

I myself included!

I think that I'm gonna have to write that book...

..."Ozone's fuller sheet"!

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sue g
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posted June 22, 2006 05:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Ozone's fuller sheet"

Clever man you

And wise

Wow....thanks for these positive words.....

Just what this world needs....hope many listen to you....

I bet yer a wicked Magician.........too.......

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, to start off, I like to thank you SueG for these kind words, this already starts out my day well!

I guess since I fell, I'm starting to feel things again like that I have used to, but now I know better!

I haven't work on it for a while due to my own unfortunate mishap years ago, thus this is the reason why I warn those who dabble to take responsiblity, for Magick can be a deadly viper if not handled the right way and can turn against you in the end like it did me!

now, I'm starting to see again and I might just be able to work things out for the better in the long run...

...,but wicked, I used it for the wrong reasons and I guess I just got done finishing paying my price!

I'll use it all for better reasons this time around!

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sue g
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posted June 22, 2006 08:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone

Your words are very inspirational.....

And much needed in places of negativity.....

Bless you for raising the vibration.....

I think at times, only the "fallen ones" can truly let in the light.....the falling (in whatever form it takes) allows us to purify and cleanse in a way...doesnt it?

Oh and btw "wicked" where I am from means "amazing"

How is the guitar playing going?


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maklhouf
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posted June 22, 2006 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone complained about lurkers. I thought lurkers were OK. I don't lurk with ill intent.

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And I will give thee the treasures of darkness
Isiah 45:3

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Venusian Love
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posted June 22, 2006 09:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pathetic when a bunch of screen names gang up on another screen name.


What are you cyber jumping her?

So tough and cool.



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Mirandee
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posted June 22, 2006 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone your words were indeed wise ones. We should all take a hard look at ourselves and do it frequently. A great majority of what people accuse others of is really transferance of their own stuff onto others. For instance a dishonest person will always perceive that others are being dishonest. The one who lies all the time theirself will assume the other is a liar. This is not a conscious thing and that is why it is so important for us to question ourselves and our own motives and do it often. Likewise honest people will assume that others are honest and are often shocked when they discover this is not true. Honest people suffer more than dishonest people do for that reason. It's a constant battle with them to not lose faith and trust in their fellow man.

I don't think that deception is human nature though. We all have the capacity to deceive within us but not everyone is deceptive. There are many honest people in the world. One would think that it is human nature to deceive when our world is so full of dishonesty these days but that is only due to the fact that many people have lost sight of their true nature.

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TINK
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posted June 22, 2006 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being as we're getting all psychological about this, I have a subtle generalization to add as well ... Those accusations which rile us up the most are generally those that are the most accurate. In other words, if someone accuses me of being dishonest and this irritates me excessively and I suddenly feel the need to defend myself ad nauseum, then I'm probably guilty of a little dishonesty. Whether I'm willing to admit it to myself or not being irrelevant.

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jwhop
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posted June 22, 2006 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A great majority of what people accuse others of is really transferance of their own stuff onto others. For instance a dishonest person will always perceive that others are being dishonest. The one who lies all the time theirself will assume the other is a liar.....Mirandee

Well Mirandee, you're the one here who has constantly accused the President of being both a liar and a thief....and offered absolutely no proof for your allegations..though I have asked you repeatedly to substantiate your allegations.

Like the rest of the lying left, you exempt yourself from the rules and philosophies the left attempts to lay down for everyone else.

You really screwed the pooch with that little piece of homespun philosophy.

If the damned shoe fits...and this one is just your size, put it on and wear it.

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lotusheartone
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posted June 22, 2006 12:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirandee..you don't even know me..how you can tell people my intentions..or what I am like..is ridiculous..
you are mean and nasty..
and I am working 60 hours a week!
how annoying can I be???that's laughable..

so look in the mirror
amd wipe that M U D off your face
your a disgrace to the human race!

and as soon as you all stop mentioning my name in a slandering way..I will stop. ...

LOve and Respect for ALL..

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that their is an old saying though:

"Call a man a theif and then he becomes one."

Just like the Yin and Yang symbol,

I believe that we are all like this in so many ways, but in most for the most part, I'm talking in a sense that we as any being in the world has at least two sides of ourselves no matter what and that we all must come to grips with it. I know that I have two sides, I know that I have a really good side and a really bad side and in the middle and in between. Someone calls me a lier for stating something that they themselves find isn't true to they're own intellect, just because the recollection of the claim isn't entirely accurate, doesn't necessarily mean that the person is totally wrong and or right or what have you, it also doesn't mean that I was lying, it means to me that we all have come to train ourselves for if nothing is in entire, might be to the point of failure or incompletion and thus we put a mechanism to corollate derivatives within ourselves from the past experienes that we all adhere to. This all started off within each and every one of us from the very first time a promise was made to us and then broken, or that someone of something didn't entirely comply to our exact expectations or that even we ourselves have failed into something and felt within us that we might have decieved in some way. But this is all due to the fact that we really don't have some guru that can lead "the way" for us and thus we must find it within ourselves to follow the rules that we ourselves make and come to believe that everyone can follow them too.

And then you got the ones that have been given that luxury of never having to experience such a let down, but follow rules or opinions placed by others to the norm and have shaped and adopted those rules of conduct to be they're own, to carry along with them forever and unscathe.

I myself though don't really believe in these things, but I am quite aware that they are there... the rules that is.

I believe that each and every one of us has a pure goodness within inside of each of us and I believe that we all have a pure evil as well and then I also believe that we have a little of both mixed in and in between of all of us and that we must all come to understanding this. Not that I'm saying that we all follow it, but to come to terms that it is really there within each and every one of us all and that in itself is human nature.

We are all going to make maistakes no matter what, we are all going to accuse when we feel something that does not chime with us entirely, but we are also going to be on that otherside of the coin too as well.

Throw a coin enough of times, maybe it will eventually land on it's edge...

...at least for a little while anyway!

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lotusheartone
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posted June 22, 2006 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone..very good words..

Only you..can find Truth..of YOU
and Mastership of YourSelf..

all of this happened for a reason..
Truth..sets you free..

there is nothing to hide

GOD knows ALL. ...

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lotus!

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lotusheartone
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posted June 22, 2006 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome..Ozonefiller

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AcousticGod
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posted June 22, 2006 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Those accusations which rile us up the most are generally those that are the most accurate. In other words, if someone accuses me of being dishonest and this irritates me excessively and I suddenly feel the need to defend myself ad nauseum, then I'm probably guilty of a little dishonesty. Whether I'm willing to admit it to myself or not being irrelevant.

A person could say about me, for instance, that I work at McDonald's, and I might be inclined to correct them, because as a matter of fact I don't work at McDonald's. If that person continues to say that I work at McDonald's I might be inclined to continue to correct that untrue statement, because there's no reasonable point in allowing it to continue to be said. Does this make me sensitive about where I'm employed? I guess it could (is that unreasonable?). However, the core of what is being said (that I'm working at McDonald's) still continues to be untrue, and my correcting it ad nauseum doesn't reflect on me, but rather the person who continues to promote the inaccuracy.

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pidaua
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posted June 22, 2006 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since you are working at McDonalds... I would like to order a Happy Meal, no fries -maybe one of those yogurt things... and a Dr. Pepper....

Thank you.. I'll meet you at the next window to pay for my order.

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this is true, then maybe that person works in McDonald's and assumes that everyone else does too!

One thing that I've come to notice for certain, most people that work in McDonald's, don't eat at McDonald's!

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pidaua
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posted June 22, 2006 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooops... I must have been mistaken, must have been all those smoking mirrors. Don't they know smoking is bad for their health?


LMAO

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some people who smoke and jog...


...and little bit of both at the same time too!

Go figure!

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pidaua
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posted June 22, 2006 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing I never understood was the whole smoking AND eating at the same time. My ex-hubby's sister would sit there a fork in one hand and a smoke in the other. Then she would take a bit of food, chew a bit and take a puff...without even swallowing.. LOL..

I used to just cringe.

Then again, we all have strange habits and likes.. LOL..

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pidaua
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posted June 22, 2006 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron.... LMAO.. that is all I can say.. oh and I love the first post

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about eating and smoking at the same time, but I have this habit of smoking and drinking beer, eating and then have a cigarette afterwards, have my coffie and a smoke in the mourning!

What can I say...

I'M A WEAK MAN!

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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2006 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH SHOOT!

I totally forgot about writing back to you over your last post SueG, please forgive me.

Yes SueG, "fallen" is a good word from what I mean about all of that of what I've mentioned, for the fact that I did once get so powerful with the Magick, it was pride that went to my head in the end and I have paid dearly ever since.

One must understand that the ability to do things out of the norm, is a very incredible thing, but one must remember that "With great power, comes great responsibility", that right there is an age old proverb and not just something that you read in comic books! Take my word for it, I know what it means to be irresponsible over such a powerful, but wonderful thing like Magick!

Yeah, I guess that you say that I was "wicked" in a sense. I'll tell ya what, I've done things that even blew my mind, some real amazing sh*t with it!

The only thing is, once you have it, it never really leaves you! The "gift" as I might say will always be apart of the one that conjures, but miss use it and it can knock you for a loop for sure!

I've been working a little bit on some Hendrix riffs actually and I'm working right now on the song "Redhouse", the live version. I pretty much got the speed down almost, now it is just learning to place the fingers in all the right areas of the fret board!

"There is a redhouse over yonder,
that's were my baby stays..."

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