posted August 29, 2005 08:19 PM         

The inside is much more volatile and ever changing and has an effect on the outside.

I would not like to mix this thread with an article on other bodies that a human has viz ether/astral/etc. Its important to remember now that just as in our physical existence a body of man/woman can be defined as athletic, average, slim, etc. Our other bodies have a similar composition and depending on that it becomes easy or not easy to manifest our desires.

This thread only tried to bring to us and remind us the lost wisdom of 1700-2000 years or even more.

Dear Dean,
I haven't heard about Steady State theory.
I believe in the Big Bang theory because I also believe in evolution. The universe was different in the past than it is today. Theres plenty of proof and most scientists and even the Catholic church has accepted its validity. Any reason why its alternate theory strikes a chord of truth in you?

Hi Sue,
Didn't wish to ignore you. I am glad you are enjoying the summer or whatever is left of it. Here we have the last big weekend of summer approaching on Sept 6. Autumn soon approaches, my favourite season after summer.

Peace to all. Enjoy the Moon while its night. You are all at home, suckling your mothers breast. Did I say it right? Ha ha ha.

posted August 29, 2005 10:22 PM         

You are humble in my opinion. We all can learn from each other and grow. A good teacher is one who is ready to learn from his student as well. One of the reasons I posted this post is because, I saw your other post about "picture a perfect world" and I wanted to make known how I would approach prayer. This post is more like post morteming a prayer.

A group prayer is a superimposition of all individual prayers and with concentration, we can change the world around us.

I am glad you are very sensitive and cannot contain to hold your eureka moments. It helps the ether around you

See I told you theres a spiritual truth behind it. And now it explains why I posted this thread. It must be my eight house Saturn and 12th house pluto which makes me seek hidden truths.

posted August 30, 2005 02:03 PM         

I agree with you whole heartedly on that statement Sesame... as regards infinity, err its is a blinder for sure! When one tries to comprehend the size of such a thing one could go mad, but God must know... unless he too is searching for the answer, in which case we are his experiment, his quest for infinity and infinity possibilities...

It gets me down sometimes... I want to become a creator/reactor too so I can join the quest for infinity, futile as it might be... it has its purpose lol, I think! As it stands we are really only limited to once choice at a time... I want to experience all choices of infinity simultaneously, now that would be infinity and infinite bliss even hmmm...

Heh... I'm rambling on about things beyond my understanding, but then thats my choice

posted August 30, 2005 03:26 PM         

I am trying to describe the universe we live in. And big bang right now is a viable theory supporting experimental results.
Steady state theory would be discarded eventually they say.

However it does not mean you are wrong. As I said, few years down the road a new theory would come up and if it explains the previous theories, it will be viable then.
You never know.
When we arrived on this planet, no body was here to tell us what it is. Neither do we know now.

I could tell you one thing though. The universe is not constant. Every moment it changes. Every experience is a new experience. I never felt. I had first had encounters of people experiencing it. May be my role on earth is to document those ...hehehehe... Poor me.

I am not offended really. This is an intelligent debate if you want to consider.

You are an Air Sign and I a water sign, hehehe.. I feel more than you for some reason. You have edge over me on some other aspect may be And now you have to tell me what is it? I believe we would never agree. Its mostly because all that needs to be said is never said. In the starry world, we can communicate with out this obstacle.

May be you are right this universe is interlaced with another universe.

I am excited to the possibilities out there. Aren't you?

I am so tied with work these days. And I was scared of some of my posts being deleted at LL. I really didn't feel like posting any more. But I guess its OK. In the past enlightened ones have said to have destroyed their works and never wanted it to be published. I am not enlightened yet, may be thats why the universe is allowing my crappy posts hehehehe

Hi Liu,

Its ok to share your experience.
You hit the point well. Heres a story which would help us tackle such issues.
" A certain king was adamant that where he walks on earth his feet must not touch the ground. Instead of carpeting, his minister invented for him sandals. So you see with intelligence, the infinity becomes something fathomable."

Peace to all.

posted August 30, 2005 03:44 PM         

We have been taught wrong in the school about evolution. I didn't point my finger at Darwin. Wish I could write a book that explains what I want to. Its not just me out there but there are many out there with an understanding of evolving soul etc,....

I really don't wish to throw things here and confuse further and sabotage my own post. Do people think I must just STFU

posted August 30, 2005 03:53 PM         

God, our Creator, Mother and Father, who art in Heaven, yes, all one and the same. The beginning and the end, all powerful, and in every one of us, for we are their children, thus we are gods also, and must remember to use our power for good, not make the same mistakes, and realize we can make a difference, and again, I'm sorry.

posted August 30, 2005 04:34 PM         

Anyways ... do share your experience whatsoever. I liked your rainbow aura

Do you also see people that way? I thought its possible only after one is having a NDE?

posted August 30, 2005 05:54 PM         

Aaah Dean, I loved your question.......well if it is the same thing there as it is here.....I always did it.....used to call it headbanging in my day.....is that what you mean, My hubbie used to be in death metal bands when we met and OMG did i see a lot of moshing then, mainly guys, but I loved to join in sometimes, I always let it all go when I got/get the chance.

The last few years have been hard for me and so now they are getting a little easier and I am so in to going out for the craic, mainly play fiddle and sing in music sessions, and do a bit of irish jiggin too, but also when the opportunity arises I will dance my legs off, love metal/rock music.....just been singing an AC/DC song with my man.....great fun.

As for the spiritual side of life, tis strong with me, but for a while I became very intense with that....you know when you are younger and looking for you way.....I feel more comfortable now about it and dont have to discuss it quite so much as I used to.......it feels more comfortable, I suppose people could label you if youre not careful....the subtle approach is good I feel.....Ive met ones who some would pigeonhole as you put it, and do you know what, funnily enough, they seemed miserable, God bless em.......not much joy in their faith......maybe their God is a serious one.......my one is definately up for the craic (he.she must be a paddy LOL).

I now give a 30 year old Gemini permission to go out and have fun, fun fun........go on man what are ye waiting for???

Love and life

posted August 30, 2005 10:26 PM         

I thought you might like this:

Prayer

Love and the law of Moses

Let your gestures be alive, spontaneous. Let your own awareness decide your lifestyle, life pattern. Don't allow anybody else to decide it. That is a sin, to allow anybody else to decide it.

Why is it a sin?--because you will never be in it. It will remain superficial, it will be hypocrisy. Don't ask anybody how to pray. Let the moment decide, let the moment be decisive, and the truth of the moment should be your prayer. And once you allow the truth of the moment to possess you, you will start growing and you will know tremendous beauties of prayer. You have entered on the path.

A famous story about Moses:
He was passing through a forest and he saw a man praying. The man was saying such absurd things that Moses had to stop. What the man was saying was profane, sacrilegious. He was saying, "God, you must be feeling sometimes very alone--I can come and be always with you like a shadow. Why suffer loneliness when I am here? And I am not a useless person either--I will give you a good bath, and I will take all the lice from your hair and your body..."

Lice?! Moses could not believe his ears: what is this man talking about? "And I will cook food for you--everybody likes what I cook. And I will prepare your bed and I will wash your clothes. When you are ill I will take care of you. I will be a mother to you, a wife to you, a servant, a slave--I can be all kinds of things. Just give me a hint so I can come..."

Moses stopped him and said, "What are you doing? To whom are you talking? Lice in God's hair? He needs a bath? Stop this nonsense! This is not prayer. God will be offended by you."

Looking at Moses, the man fell at his feet. He said, "I am sorry. I am an illiterate, ignorant man. I don't know how to pray. Please, you teach me!"

So Moses taught him the right way to pray, and he was very happy because he had put a man on the right track. Happy, puffed up in his ego, Moses went away. And when he was alone in the forest, a thundering voice came from the sky and said, "Moses, I have sent you into the world to bring people to me, to bridge people with me, but not to take my lovers away from me. And that's exactly what you have done. That man is one of the most intimate to me. Go back and apologize. Take your prayer back! You have destroyed the whole beauty of his dialogue. He is sincere, he is loving. His love is true. Whatsoever he was saying, he was saying from his heart, it was not a ritual. Now what you have given to him is just a ritual. He will repeat it but it will be only on the lips; it will not be coming from his being."

posted August 30, 2005 10:30 PM         

Believe me any positive light or even a thought from you and anyone concerned does make a difference.

posted August 30, 2005 10:46 PM         

Love & Light to you.

Not a water sign...but have enough Scorpio and Neptune in my natal to understand what you mean.