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sue g
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posted October 01, 2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I am Aries rising (of course)

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sue g
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posted October 01, 2005 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely what you said about your Aries mum..........

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let ther b light
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posted October 03, 2005 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
hey IAT
i agree wid sue...........its reallllyyyy cute of u to think the best sign is that of ur mum

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iAmThat
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posted October 03, 2005 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message

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posted October 06, 2005 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Contiunuing our posts.....


I wanted to share following poem for our Universal Forum folks who do not visit the Poetic forum. I thought it would help us in choosing our Paths.


Our Father in heaven

quote:

I have a Father and a Mother.
My Mother has surrounded me with all happiness and comforts.
My Father lives his dreams thru me.
I have everything, yet I have nothing.
I am immortal but still I wish to die.
There is this chaos with in me and those times I hate them.
Soon love would follow this I know.
Is this Isis that a man must seek?
Or Osiris that a woman must seek?
So I go to my Mother and ask.
"Show me a place where I am immortal and at bliss."
"A place where one becomes two"
She understands me. Knows that I am defective.
And encourages me to follow my heart.
I ask her "Give me a clue."
She says "You have a Forefather. He is perfect."
So here I am now, in search of HIM.
I walk in darkness and hope He hears my cries.
I call in mind the blessings of my Mother and continue my Journey.

--IAT


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BlueTopaz124
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posted October 06, 2005 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
sue.g...you mention feeling as though you are born 100 years too late, life is too fast these days, you like to stop, talk to people and help...maybe we are the ones who can learn from you - to slow down and connect more the way you do, help more where it is needed...this is how I see it.

love and kisses,
Laura

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iAmThat
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posted October 06, 2005 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Ok lets continue to share and learn from each other. Push and Pull each other on our Journey.

OK a series of questions.

I ask myself "This Universe that came to be, how is it governed?"

1. It was all predetermined.
2. There is a God who directs it.
3. Its governed by itself.

What am I thinking as I ponder over this question?

Well I am thinking how will I answer this question without sabotaging my Original Posts.

I am imagining Dean laughing over my blunder. He said "Why ask/pray if its already answered.".
This argument supports point 1.

But then if everything is fate, where is the wisdom of discernment between good and bad? A man would do bad actions and blame it on his fate.

Therefore our universe is not #1.
Its because when we think/discern wisely, we create our choices before us?

So why then should we imagine that our path already exists? This quantum world gets very complicated at the smallar matter level. I am assuming that the smallest disturbance of matter lets say volcano on planet Mar's can have an effect on a person on NYC on Earth. Is it how Astrology works? I would imagine it to be.


Does this mean another universe exists where we experience the negative choice that we made? Science says yes and gets out of this situation by introducing parallel universes? If Jesus was with us, would he have ridiculed these scientists? Among the multitudes of things that was created even before the universe came into being, were we also created multidimensional and can be in several places same time.
I am thinking that until our true nature reveals out deep inside from us? When the seed within us germinates. When the Kundalini rises, then may be it is possible to experience multidimensional experience.
But then why experience, when we know that it is not what gives us Joy. We raised our energy sacrifising things that we loved of this world. So why would I ever want to be part of this universe. I would rather be with my own kind in one of the many mansions that our Father in heaven has build for us.

[Note:version 1. Other questions I would attempt to answer myself later on. Please feel free to add your thoughts as well.]

Thanks for hearing my rant.

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iAmThat
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posted October 06, 2005 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Having spoken all that.
I also strongly believe, this earth is was and will remain here until all of its childrens spirals. It may take 7 or 12 years or 44,000 years or 100,000 or ___ years. I won't say never(unless earth passes away or Judgement comes).


It is because, our eternal Father will not interfere on how the creators/creation work.
Unless it becomes absolutely essential.

So the point is spread the knowledge of our diviness and how we must act responsibly due to our divine nature. The faster the childrens of earth knows the more faster would its inhabitants experience heavenly bliss and the Mother of the Universe would be smiling. Because we are as much her children as we are of our 'Eternal Father'.

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iAmThat
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posted October 06, 2005 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
TIPS:

1. When you pray imagine that you are in the heart of God. Because the reality is all creation(visible and invisible) is in one heart of HIM. Forget all the hierarchies, they do not matter. To whom the dust really belongs is your true Father.
All others have only borrowed resources from the One.

2. After we make the initial prayers and do it daily. The worry of am I doing it right will always be there at the back of the mind. Continue on....and one day you will feel that your voice has stopped and it is God who is reciting a prayer within you and you are just listening. Thats a great sign. Its like heaven meeting earth.

All right, thats my contribution for today.

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iAmThat
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posted October 10, 2005 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Other tips:

* Yours prayers are not answered until you have done your best yourself. For example, lets say you want to pass an exam with flying colors. Until you work hard for it, God is not gonna give you flying colors.

* When you have done your best and cannot do anything further and are fully exhausted thats when the unseen world comes to your aid.

* He wants to use your own body, hands, legs, feets included to fulfill what you have asked for.

* The kindness that you have done others, the God does the same to you.

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iAmThat
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posted October 10, 2005 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
I think the saying goes "God already knows what you will ask for?" than the other saying "Why ask when God already answers?".

The reason God knows what you will ask for is because he resides within you.
Its also important to realize that the holy one lies asleep in one's heart. So the first step in really having a effective commune is to wake the holy one up.

The reason "Why ask when God already answers?" does not work is because our universe does not work on any of the premises that we mentioned earlier i.e #1, #2 and #3.


When I come back I would like to share #2 and #3.

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