posted May 18, 2007 09:06 PM         

I may have more to say later,
but right now this is all I'm moved to say:

Does God ultimately have a good reason for allowing little babies to be beaten to a lifeless pulp, only after having their tiny orifices repeatedly ripped open by syphilitic hard-ons?

Not bloody likely.

posted May 18, 2007 09:09 PM         

You can't depend on your family
You can't depend on your friends
You can't depend on a beginning
You can't depend on an end

You can't depend on intelligence
Ooohhh, you can't depend on any god
You can only depend on one thing
You need a Busload of Faith to get by, watch, baby

Busload of Faith to get by X3
You need a Busload of Faith to get by

You can depend on the worst always happening
You can depend on a murderer's drive
You can bet that if he rapes somebody
There'll be no problem having a child

And you can bet that if she aborts it
Pro-Lifers will attack her with rage
You can depend on the worst always happening
You need a Busload of Faith to get by, yeah

Busload of Faith to get by X2
Busload of Faith to get by, babe
Busload of Faith to get by

You can't depend on the goodly hearted
The goodly hearted made lampshades and soap
You can't depend on the Sacrament
No Father, no Holy Ghost

You can't depend on any churches
Unless there's a real estate you want to buy
You can't depend on a lot of things
You need a Busload of Faith to get by, wow

Busload of Faith to get by [x4]

You can't depend on no miracle
You can't depend on the air
You can't depend on a wise man
You can't find them because they're not there

You can depend on cruelty
Crudity of thought and sound
You can depend on the worst always happening
You need a Busload of Faith to get by, ha

posted May 18, 2007 09:32 PM         

We are all Powerful Spiritual Beings

if we believe that and we believe there is a plan

posted May 18, 2007 09:42 PM         

Gimme a break.

posted May 18, 2007 10:54 PM         

quote:

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Nam how many times must you be beat down and cut back only to have to come back again with a smiling face and a positive attitude? Is there not some point where you just can't grow back again?

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oh good, I am glad you put it that way, you are right , screw it! who cares about anything positive, or honesty, compasion, strenght, let's just all give up.

ah, yeah, I feel a lot better now!
let me just lay here , open a beer and watch this tv, I'll quit working, my kids will learn to find food somewhere by themselves, I'll quit reading, I'll quit creating, I'll quit nurturing, I'll quit teaching, let me just sit here on my fat a$$ doing nothing, what's the point? there will never be ANYTHING better in my life anyway, so why keep trying?.....

ah I feel so much better, thank you for letting me see this is the best way out!

posted May 19, 2007 12:06 AM         

i am not very good at catching sarcasm. so pardon me if i interpreted u wrong.

I dont think there is a single soul in the world who doesnt want anything in this world. may be they hv *most of* what they wanted from life, and so they r *kind of* satisfied.

i guess u meant to say that i am asking u to not want anything (by suggesting trying to put oneself in the other's shoes, blah blah). i wasn't.

isn't it ironic, that most ppl who dont think too much about life, and what it means, and whether there's karmic justice, seem to be quite contented with their lot. not only that, they seem to actually have reason to be satisfied. (and the reason NOT being that they didn't want anything from life).

but i'd like to believe that it is not introspection itself that makes people unhappy. that seems to thwart 'luck'. it is something else. i feel tht its a kind of intermediate state. its like the day u start to think about things, u r on unknown territory, where the rules of the games are a little more complicated. u need to learn to walk all over again, with those new rules.

ok, i dont know if i am making any sense any more, and the objective of this post was not to convert ppl to my point of view.

posted May 19, 2007 12:10 AM         

I am not going to preach to you about God, faith or anything like that because I do have my own questions about it, but I can assure you from personal experience that there was a time were I lost all hope, my life was hell, I sumerge myself in such deep depression that I would get scare of my own thoughts, and trust me this lady over here does not get scare easily, I figure out then that this was very unhealthy and selfish, why would I want to sink and be a burden to other people, who is going to teach my kids to be good and kind people?
There is just so much to do out there and trouble doesn't last forever, there are always ups and downs in life, you just gotta keep trying, I mean what else there is to do?

posted May 19, 2007 12:27 AM         

BR, actually i didn't even mean to give advice to you, because i know how irritating it can be, especially when it feels like the others have not felt the pain you are feeling. true, we are not in the same state of mind as you right now. but many of us have been there. i have. and dare say may be there again.

about love, yes i am single too. almost every week some time i feel like crying out in pain, and i almost come out here on LL and make a post asking someone to give me some hope. crying always helps. i dont consider it a sign of weakness. don't know about you, since you r a man. but i'd say try it.

one thing....i have a persistent feeling tht u feel like u have to put on a facade of cheerfulness. and force yourself to be/look happy. just wanted to say try being exactly yourself. let the whole world go to hell. no u dont hv to smile at every stranger when u feel like u r being ripped apart from inside. dont do anything tht wud drain you further.

posted May 19, 2007 01:29 AM         

That's what happens to the
kind-hearted who continuously get ****** .
You have to continuously be on alert, sleep a soldier-sleep with one eye open,
because there's always someone who's waiting to exploit or utilize you for what they can.

But my True nature is NOT ****** like this world is.
It's not exploitive.
It's not ungrateful.
Not selfish.
Not vengeful.

If I'm going to live there is no ******* way I'm going to give in and surrender my power by letting this ****** - up world alter who I am.

I'm fiercly determined NOTHING/NO ONE will ever
have that power over me.

When you lose control, isn't that really
letting your self be controlled?
Would you have acted otherwise if it weren't for the other person's intrusive energies?
It takes the greatest strength to not be overpowered~ to disassociate.

I'm not saying don't stand up for yourself.
If you don't stand up for yourself, you're empowering them further. They move on to someone else, fat from power.
I'm talking about losing sense of your Truth in the heat of emotion.
It's a different thing.
You've seen me lose control before. (KS)
(well, can't remember if you were around then, or not)
Each experience, I try to learn from, and it strengthens my resolve.

That poem was from a suicidal moment of entire weariness and despair.
I was giving up hope that anything of my heart that I gave ever meant anything to anyone....
I was grappling with Faith that things of Beauty that are so meaningful to me,
have any meaning here.
I was looking up at the cloudy night sky and I saw stars peeking through. Their glistening taunting Beauty seemed so sadistic to me in that moment, because I was so longing to go home, not wanting to be here any longer,
and I didn't have the luxury of that option (I have children who look to ME for hope).

My rage poetry isn't suitable for
PG audiences.

You get me too, I always sense that.

I almost came in your trying the compliment/positive approach in FFA to ask you if your head had exploded yet.

All of "The Secret"/ positive attracts positive-zombie-smiley-happy-clone mania makes my head want to explode.

If I put all of my faith in positive attracting positive I would be dead by now.

Because I have a loving heart
and I cannot tell you how many times, in my innocence, I've attracted shocking cruelties.

Positive attracts positive is a partial truth.
A temporary fix, like heroin,
it may bring about some euphoric results for a short while, but when it passes,
the needle sting remains and the tremors for more set in.
A cycle of needful desire that cannot be satiated nor still long enough to look in the mirror and see all the various, myriad complexities of All that is possible outside of its imprisoned vision.

Normally in care and respect for all the people I know and love who subscribe to the Secret, I would have worded that much more tenderly,
after all, live and let live and whatever brings them happiness. I like to see them happy, even if temporarily....all the while quietly waiting to catch them in comforting arms when they crash down and are ready to
open and bleed Realness.

Blue,
I think one of your most beautiful qualities is your Realness.
(cantankerousness and All )

posted May 19, 2007 04:01 AM         

PRAYER FOR YOU

This is a perfect moment. It’s a perfect moment because I have been inspired to say a gigantic prayer. I’ve been roused to unleash a divinely greedy, apocalyptically healing prayer for each and every one of you—even those of you who don’t believe in the power of prayer.

And so I am starting to pray right now to the God of Gods ... the God beyond all Gods ... the Girlfriend of God ... the Teacher of God ... the Goddess who invented God.

DEAR GODDESS, you who never kill but only change:

I pray that my exuberant, suave, and accidental words will move you to shower ferocious blessings down on everyone who reads this benediction.

I pray that you will give them what they don’t even know they need—not just the boons they think they want but everything they’ve always been afraid to even imagine or ask for.

DEAR GODDESS, you wealthy anarchist burning heaven to the ground:

Many of the divine chameleons out there don’t even know that their souls will live forever.

So please use your brash magic to help them see that they are all wildly creative geniuses too big for their own personalities.

Guide them to realize that they are all completely different from what they’ve been led to believe about themselves, and more exciting than they can possibly imagine.

Make it illegal, immoral, irrelevant, unpatriotic, and totally tasteless for them to be in love with anyone or anything that’s no good for them.

O GODDESS, you who give us so much love and pain mixed together that our morality is always on the verge of collapsing:

I beg you to cast a boisterous love spell that will nullify all the dumb ideas, bad decisions, and nasty conditioning that have ever cursed the wise and sexy virtuosos out there.

Remove, banish, annihilate, and laugh into oblivion any jinx that has clung to them, no matter how long they’ve suffered from it, and even if they have become accustomed or addicted to its ugly companionship.

Please conjure an aura of protection around them so that they will receive an early warning if they are ever about to act in such a way as to bring another hex or plague into their lives in the future.

DEAR GODDESS, sweet Goddess, you sly universal virus with no freaking opinion:

Please help all the personal growth addicts out there to become disciplined enough to go crazy in the name of creation, not destruction.

Teach them the difference between oppressive self-control and liberating self-control.

Awaken in them the power to do the half-right thing when it is impossible to do the totally right thing.

Arouse the Wild Woman within them—even if they’re men.

DEAR GODDESS, you pregnant **** who scorns all mediocre longing:

I pray that you will inspire all the compassionate rascals communing with this prayer to kick their own ***** and wash their own brains.

Provoke them to throw away or give away all the things they own that encourage them to believe that they are better than anyone else.

Show them how much fun it is to brag about what they cannot do and do not have.

Give them bigger, better, more original sins and wilder, wetter, more interesting problems.

Most of all, Goddess, brainwash them with your freedom so that they never love their own pain more than anyone else’s pain.

O GODDESS, you wildly disciplined, radically curious, shockingly friendly, fanatically balanced, mysteriously truthful, teasingly healing, lyrically logical master of rowdy bliss:

Cultivate in yourself a fervent yearning for the intimate companionship of these budding messiahs. Play with them every day. Answer their questions. Listen to their stories. Inspire them to love you so much they lose all their hatred forever.

DEAR GODDESS, you psychedelic mushroom cloud at the center of all our brains:

Bless the insanely poised creators out there with lucid dreams while they are wide awake. Provide them with their own spin doctors, and vacuum cleaners for their magic carpets, and solar-powered sex toys that work even in the dark.

Give them a knack for avoiding other people’s hells, and a thousand masks that all represent their true feelings, and secret admirers who are not psychotic stalkers.

Arrange for a racehorse to be named after them, or an underground river, or a thousand-year-old storm on Saturn.

Teach them to be their own prophets and pray to themselves and right their own wrongs and sing their own songs and be their own wives and save their own lives.

DEAR GODDESS, you riotously tender, hauntingly reassuring, orgiastically sacred feeling that is even now running through all of our soft, warm animal bodies:

I pray that you provide all the original sinners out there with a license to bend and even break all rules, laws, and traditions that keep them apart from the things they love.

Show them how to purge the wishy-washy wishes that distract them from their daring, dramatic, divine desires.

And teach them that they can have anything they want if they’ll only ask for it in an unselfish way.

And now dear God of Gods, God beyond all Gods, Girlfriend of God, Teacher of God, Goddess who invented God, I bring this prayer to a close, trusting that in these mysterious moments you have begun to change everyone out there in the exact way they’ve needed to change in order to become the gorgeous geniuses they were born to be. Amen. Awomen.

-- Rob Breszny
FreewillAstrology.com

posted May 19, 2007 07:42 AM         

"Does God ultimately have a good reason for allowing little babies to be beaten to a lifeless pulp, only after having their tiny orifices repeatedly ripped open by syphilitic hard-ons?"

I don't think you can blame God for anything that happens here on earth, I think we're on our own (in a way). It is my belief that he is merely an observer. He can give us support mentally, but he can't interfere in what goes on on earth. He can't or he won't anyway, I don't know. But I think he trusts us enough to let us figure things out for ourselves. To find the final destination on our own. In a way.

And as to the fact that some people seem to have it all, well what do we know anyway? We don't know what **** they may be going through.

I agree with what was said about some people having what we want, but not being satisfied because it's not what they want -part though. That's the kind of thing with my best friend and me. She wants what I have (that I DO NOT want!!!!!) and I want something that she has but does not care much about...

anyway, great discussion. Though it kind of upsets me too. I'm the kind of person who (annoyingly enough) HAS TO WIN AN ARGUMENT. Or discussion or whatever. I always have to make people agree with me (maybe it's due to my aquarius and leo influences of thinking I always know best - I don't know)

posted May 19, 2007 03:27 PM         

"The most important part of your spiritual life is your faith.
With faith proof goes out the window and belief comes from within."

and:

"It is not up to us to question someone else's karma, that is for God.
He has a plan and when we're ready for it, he will reveal it."

You are very insightfull! A true believer, I like that. Some people only believe when things are going their way, but I don't think you're one of them!

posted May 19, 2007 11:31 PM         

Sorry for getting late. Thank you my friend. And I am getting to know you.

I have both the crab and lion nature. And my ascendand is Libra. That explains the balancing part that you rightfully observed. Gee

It seems my subconscious energy is grounded in Tiger energy as per Hindu astrology.

Karmic Justice.

Good Bad, Male Female

Just words unless we make a connection

Cheers .

posted May 19, 2007 11:39 PM         

Are you a solar leo or a solar cancer?

posted May 19, 2007 11:44 PM         

I think I went to http://www.astroved.com/ for a free analysis long time ago.

The guy you see on the web page is the author of "Power of intention" Wayne Dyer's guru.