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Sulkyarcher
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posted December 04, 2017 04:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if the person is severely mentally ill?

Will karma 'punish' them for being sick minded? What about the people that didn't pay attention to them? People that denied there was a problem?

How come they don't get bad karma for being negligent, or being careless?

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posted December 05, 2017 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
What if the person is severely mentally ill?

Will karma 'punish' them for being sick minded? What about the people that didn't pay attention to them? People that denied there was a problem?

How come they don't get bad karma for being negligent, or being careless?


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posted December 06, 2017 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 06, 2017 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I have tried repeatedly, over many days, to find a specific woman's story. Maybe someone here knows of it. Since I can't find it I can't remember the specifics. What I recall of it is that a woman tried to kill herself with a gun and messed it up so she instead came to without a jaw and having to use a feeding tube. Nurses and doctors treated her like crap, and one doctor told her, as best I recall, that other people are victims of the violence of others, but she did this to herself, so she could just live with it. They treated her with contempt, even as they were doing the bare minimum so she could leave the hospital so someone "more worthy" could have her bed.

That's another problem with the "suicide is always wrong" in the sense that it goes against God's will and that the person to do so is "selfish" (and other unproven and likely false claims). It fosters attitudes like that that are not loving, compassionate, or spiritual.


That ****** me off, Pixie. Unfortunately, this kind of ABUSE and UTTER CRUELTY adds to the suffering levels in this world.

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Sulkyarcher.

What about the people that didn't pay attention to them?
People that denied there was a problem?

How come they don't get bad karma for being negligent, or being careless?


They need to, Sulky. They really need to.

I sincerely DEEPLY HOPE that in the coming future, this is topic would receive attention--- to be included in what Society is going to do about The Abuse that goes on in our Institutions and Places of Healing.

Too many people come out with FAR MORE DAMAGE done to their emotional-systems, than any claims of what they said they did to heal them otherwise.

(Barbarians!)

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Sulkyarcher
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posted December 07, 2017 04:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
They need to, Sulky. They really need to.

I sincerely DEEPLY HOPE that in the coming future, this is topic would receive attention--- to be included in what Society is going to do about The Abuse that goes on in our Institutions and Places of Healing.

Too many people come out with FAR MORE DAMAGE done to their emotional-systems, than any claims of what they said they did to heal them otherwise.

(Barbarians!)


I prefer that they learn to be more open-minded and less negligent about mental illness rather than get punished karmically. Give them a few chances, at first.

But if they're hardheaded, then.....well, maybe it's time for a lesson, which is what karma really means, not punishment.

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posted December 07, 2017 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to add to this, but I'm still in a really raw place.

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posted December 07, 2017 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You show more mercy towards them, than they do to others, Sulky.

That speaks a lot (to me) about your character

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Feel better soon, Teasel.

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posted December 07, 2017 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 08, 2017 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
You show more mercy towards them, than they do to others, Sulky.

That speaks a lot (to me) about your character

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Feel better soon, Teasel.


Haha, thanks mirage!

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posted December 09, 2017 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Haha, thanks mirage!

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posted December 09, 2017 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 10, 2017 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 11, 2017 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful snow.

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posted December 12, 2017 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Snow angel pics all over Facebook.

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posted December 13, 2017 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad the vibes here turned happy.

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posted December 13, 2017 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a hard season for some ....

You are all a Blessing to me, and I'm so glad we can be a part of each other's lives.

Yeh, I'm glad that some of the glooms have receded.

AND, I am still mindful that this is a tough time of year for some.

Thinking about all ....

(music) Counting Your Blessings (Irving Berlin, perf by Krista Branch) [3:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTWb8Ng3Z0

** cyber-hugs, for all the innerChildren who needs one right now **

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posted December 13, 2017 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

(music) Remember Who We Are (Krista Branch) [4:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHtVxDz43KY

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posted December 14, 2017 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umbrella ella ella!

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posted December 14, 2017 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ lol hellllo Rihanna

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posted December 15, 2017 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a great song.

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posted December 15, 2017 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I like it too.

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posted December 16, 2017 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great singer. Poor choice in boyfriends.

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posted January 21, 2018 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow thank you so much to everybody for all this amazing replies even with that being a difficult topic, and for opening your heart here. I have been living with no computer for some time and I didnt see all this. Also I dnt get messages on my mail anymore when there is a new answer I dnt know why. I really apreaciate it! I see there is such a great people here.

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posted January 21, 2018 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Including yourself, Shulia.
Thanks for starting this thread, and coming back 'as you can'.
I understand the sense of isolation, not having access to computers in order to connect.

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posted January 23, 2018 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Shulia:
Wow thank you so much to everybody for all this amazing replies even with that being a difficult topic, and for opening your heart here. I have been living with no computer for some time and I didnt see all this. Also I dnt get messages on my mail anymore when there is a new answer I dnt know why. I really apreaciate it! I see there is such a great people here.

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