posted November 02, 2009 04:22 PM         

pure egyptian links
his HATHOR cj my HATHOR/OSIRIS (3)
his OSIRIS cj my HORUS (3)
his RUDRA/OSIRIS opp my AIGYPTIOS (0)
his AIGYPTIOS opp my SELQET (1)
his SELQET cj my ATEN (2)
his GIZA/briede cj my AMENHOTEP (1)
his RAMSES cj my AIGYPTIOS (2) Adonis (1) psyche (1)
his AMENHOTEP cj my IMHOTEP (1)
his UBASTI cj my UBASTI (2)
his GIZA opp my NEPHTHYS (3)
his IMHOTEP opp my IMHOTEP (0)
his ATEN opp my ISHTAR (0)
his ATEN opp my SEKHMET (3)
his AIGYPTIOS opp my SELQET (1)

egyptian to angles
his AC cj my AIGYPTIOS (3)
his ISIS cj my ASCENDANT (0)
his PTAH opp my ASCENDANT (3)
his DC cj my ISIS (3)

NAME links
his PTAH opp my LARA (2)
his (my surname) opp my SEKHMET (3)
his AIGYPTIOS cj my surname (1)
his LARA opp my IMHOTEP (2)

OTHERS
his sun/moon midpoint cj my OSIRIS (1)
his eros cj my TUTENCHAMUN (2)
his TUTENCHAMUN cj my Jupiter (0)
his Jupiter cj my SPHINX (1)
his IMHOTEP cj my cupid (2)
his NAME cj my IMHOTEP (1)
his LUST cj my IMHOTEP (2)
his amor opp my IMHOTEP (1)
his CHIRON cj my IMHOTEP (0)
his ATEN cj my lust (3)
his JUNO cj my ATEN (2)
his SPHINX opp my angel (0)
his ISIS cj my Aphrodite (2)
his ISIS opp my child (0)
his RAMSES opp my hades (0) Persephone (1) Lilith (2)
his moon opp my RAMSES (1)
his atlantis/kaali cj my RAMSES (3)
his Proserpina cj my NEPHTHYS (1)
his briede opp my NEPHTHYS (1)
his groom cj my SELQET (1)
his PTAH opp my LARA (2) utopia (2) Aphrodite (1)
his moon cj my PTAH (2)
his vertex opp my NEFERTITI (0)
his tyche opp my OSIRIS (1)
his Neptune/Saturn opp my TUTENCHAMUN (0/1)
his atlantis opp my PTAH (2)
his HATHOR opp my vertex/telephus (0)

COMPOSITE
my n TUTENCHAMUN cj composite VENUS
my n OSIRIS cj composite IMHOTEP
my n HATHOR cj composite SPHINX/HATHOR
my n HORUS cj composite GIZA
my n ISIS cj composite IC
my n SPHINX cj composite mars.amor/union
my n AC cj composite TUTENCHAMUN
my n RAMSES cj composite juno
my n AIGYPTIOS cj composite psyche
my n IMHOTEP cj composite saturn/karma
my n GIZA cj composite moon
(conjuncts only, all within 2')

his n sun/moon mp cj composite IMHOTEP
his n HATHOR cj composite SPHINX/HATHOR
his n OSIRIS cj composite GIZA
his n ISIS cj composite TUTENCHAMUN
his n PTAH cj composite saturn/karma

posted November 02, 2009 04:23 PM         

I know I may be out of line with my question, but: Do you love him?

I mean, did you feel this attraction before he told you you were his twinsoul?

I am curious, when you first saw him what DID you feel?

posted November 02, 2009 04:25 PM         

Lara - how long have you two been together?

I would say - just be strong together inspite of, communicate (it looks like you two do that already - are there any out-of-this-world communication you two do? just a yes or no is suffice) and be careful who you share what with. Is he into astrology also? If not, be careful as not to cause stress between the two of you because you are really into it and he frankly could give a damn as far as astrology is concerned. In other words - as much time you put into astrology, put into connecting with one another. Listen to one another. Be present with one another and try not to obsess about finding the mundane connections between you two in expense of the spiritual development you two have to do because there IS, at least, ONE AWESOME reason you two are together that is bigger than the two of you. You don't want to miss that. p.s. did you try the name thing? You know - see if their name can be plugged into your chart and yours into theirs and see what you came up with? I wish you the best of luck with this - just remember, you two are partners to one another, if nothing else. All sorts of emotions between you two will be experienced. It's such an empowering connection - enjoy it.

posted November 02, 2009 05:01 PM         

and no, this thread and any conversation makes no difference. If you told me now that we were ill-suited i wouldn't care!!! lol

Hi LuvinU!
We haven't been together long at all (which sounds weird when i type that!)
We are very telepathic together, yes.
He is into astrology and he showed me his chart! He wanted me to do this synastry - i didn't want to but he insisted, he wanted to .

Our names are inlinked all over our charts!

I agree, there is one AWESOME reason we are together and we are fully and consciously aware of it. We guide and support each other, it's very REAL and extremely balanced.

posted November 02, 2009 05:13 PM         

Sorry to get back to you so late about this. But the Dasa system is a series of cycles in Vedic Astrology that is the primary system of prediction. In the vedic system venus is the planet that tends to describe the type of women men are looking for and Jupiter describes the type of ment that women desire. The reason they use jupiter instead of mars or the sun is that Jupiter rukes the ninth and is related to father in the chart,as the sun relates to father in the west. In their system the Fathter is like the Guru and Jupiter and the Ninth house rules Guru's ,so that's thyeir logic.
When a Woman is in her Jupiter Dasa (main Cycle) or Bhukti(sub-cycle) of Jupiter it is more likely that she will meet her mate and get married. It is not always the case but in this system they belive Jupiter rules marriage. This is also a time (jupter dasa) that men can get married too. Marriages and relationships in the Jupiter dasa are suppossed to be "motiviated by Love" as oppossed to other motives and arrangements. Remeber that this si a socirty that has had arranged marriages for years,so a love marriage is a distinct type.
When men have a venus dasa or bhukti they often meet the woman they are loooking for etc. This si the traditional take on ot on vedic astrology ,but it isn't always accurate. The seventh house and aspects to Jupiter or Venus will alter things too. I find in my own life that it is both the seventh house and venus that tend to predict attraction. And probably the seventh and jupiter for women. My venus and seventh are so different in vedic than my western chart for years I never understood why I was attracted to Sagittarius and Gemini,s so often. Then when i saw my vedic venus was in Sag and my seventh had gemini on the cusp it made sense! That doesn't mean my western venus and seventh don't count it's like an addition. Very complicated.
You can find your dasa by knowing your nakshatra or (moonstar). Each of the twenty seven nakshatra's are rulled by a moonstart. When you find that you can see where your place in the 120 years cycle of dasa'a is. Then you simply find your present phase and you will know what parts fo your chart are activated. I know a website that has a free vedic chart and calcuklates dasa's for free I will post it here soon.

Hope this ansers all your questions. I don;t like to leave people hanging, I just had to wait a bit before I could post again.

posted November 02, 2009 05:18 PM         

that is very beautiful.

It kind of reminds me of something this singer emphasised on his concert very much, and that is that you can`t prevent falling in love, if the feelings are there, even if you sometimes wish you could.

Now I know that this is not the case with you and your love, but I thought there was much truth in it. The only way to run away from feelings that strong, is living in selfdenial, and sometimes not even that is possible, if the feelings are REALLY Strong.
And if they are that strong, they will surface again and again, no matter how much your "reasonable voice" tells you that you maybe should not "surrender" to them this time.
Actually that was the exact expression this guy used, which I found an interesting choice of words: "In the end you will surrender to these feelings".

posted November 02, 2009 05:40 PM         

it is beautiful and SO natural...
no doubt
no fear
no feeling of being unsafe
no disappointment
however much or little the contact and quality of words, they are always as they should be and perfect.
It's so refreshing... like falling into a pile of pillows knowing that it will be a soft and comforting landing.

Thank you. I wish i could send a heart back to you but i have no idea how to use LL emoticons

ps. he is 15 years older than me - which is also wonderful, mentally!!!

posted November 02, 2009 09:24 PM         

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yet within a certain context the synastry will show the potential dynamic between two people.
And no matter in what context, the synastry will show a potential dynamic between two people and how they potentially affected each other, IF they met....Where it gets difficult is when these lines get blurred. What if you fall in love with a coworker or the busdriver and he with you?

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Not so much "IF they met," but also IF they had a certain kind of relationship. Each relationship between people is unique, and many non-astrological factors come into play and should be taken into account alongside the synastry.

Person A only dates models, period, and states that he would never date a "fat chick"...Person B is very overweight. Despite the fact that they are both single people who know each other socially and have terrific synastry, their Mars-Venus and Venus-Pluto will play out differently than if B were a model, because no matter what, A will not consider B a romantic or sexual prospect, just as I would never have sex with someone with certain politics.

It's not just about, Are you colleagues or friends-of-friends? kind of questions. Other factors trump synastry as well.

We all already take non-astrological factors into account when we look at synastry, such as the sex and age of each person and whether or not they are blood relatives. I am advocating that we just do that EVEN MORE, combining case study details plus intuition with any reading.

Also, increasingly, I don't think synastry alone accurately shows the DEGREE OF INTENSITY OR CONNECTION two people feel. I think it only shows the potential pattern(s) of their dynamic

For example, I don't believe that feeling a one-sided groupie "connection" to a famous stranger...but having lots of tight luminary conjunctions...means that IF you met, there would be a feeling of mutual connection between you. That person very well might feel a lack of connection even knowing you, even if you saw each other every day. Synastry isn't the only factor.

But if you did happen to both feel a deep attraction...THEN that's when the synastry would come in. If you had a tight Sun-Venus conjunction, it would indicate that within that relationship, Sun-Venus energy would interact harmoniously. IF you met and only one of you felt a deep attraction, I'm increasingly unconvinced that that Sun-Venus conjunction would really be apparent in any form. Similarly, IF two people meet and have an intense attraction to each other, but have few close synastric aspects, we as astrologers can still look at correspondences between natals, or their house overlays, to see their dynamics.

Lately, I am thinking that special interest in one another comes from a constellation of factors not accurately reflected in synastry.

I think synastry should be looked at to show dynamics based on how we feel. It doesn't show how we will feel, or would feel if we met, even potentially.

posted November 03, 2009 02:27 AM         

we have been at that point of discussion several times now. And I think it is safe to say that we - slightly- disagree in this regard.
But everything I would say now would just be a repetition of myself. So I guess it`s best I donīt.

Lara,

in the left field there is a link under the heading "Smilies legend", there you can look up the emoticons.
The heart is easy:

: heart :

posted November 03, 2009 04:48 AM         

<<Lately, I am thinking that special interest in one another comes from a constellation of factors not accurately reflected in synastry>>

Why not start a thread on that?
What creates intense attraction if it is not synastry or past life connections? Astrology takes the credit for making past life conections important.
So your reasons should totally exclude astrology and past life connections.
Meaning you should also explain how the unexpected meetings occur between a couple who become pasionate lovers. It should also explain love at first sight, dreams of the future mate, synchronicities like each others parents having similar names, the couple visiting the same countries or similar named cities before knowing each other etc.

I am very curious.

posted November 03, 2009 07:58 AM         

I think I agree with you in the end, even though slightly different thoughts get me there, but the result is the same.

I don`t think that synastry / astrology MAKES anything happens, but just describes what is there.
So it is not the astrology that determines that we have had or shared past lives. But if we shared past lives (for example), it will be shown by astrology / synastry.

But at the end of the day, this slightly different emphasis may just be a matter of semantics and the result (my opinion) is the same.

Lara,

those aspects got my attention:

his HATHOR cj my HATHOR/OSIRIS (3)
his OSIRIS cj my HORUS (3)
his UBASTI cj my UBASTI (2)
his IMHOTEP opp my IMHOTEP (0)

his AC cj my AIGYPTIOS (3)
his ISIS cj my ASCENDANT (0)
- WOW, I share this one with someone, too.

his PTAH opp my ASCENDANT (3)
his DC cj my ISIS (3)
(An Isis-ASC-DW? That is VERY interesting, even though I probably would have preferred his ASC to your Osiris and your ASC to his Isis)

his TUTENCHAMUN cj my Jupiter (0)
his Jupiter cj my SPHINX (1)
- makes me think of a benevolent spiritual teacher / growing situation

his CHIRON cj my IMHOTEP (0)

his SPHINX opp my angel (0)
- I personally love Angel-aspects

his atlantis/kaali cj my RAMSES (3)
I find ANY aspect of an asteroid from an ancient civilisation with Atlantis very interesting.
For me in my chart I have the feeling that Atlantis is the focal point, from which anything else spreads and leads back to it.

his moon cj my PTAH (2)
I don`t know exactly why, but I feel we might underestimate Ptah, there is something very powerful about him.
Or maybe that is just because of its sabian in my chart
(A Hindu Yogi Demonstrates His Healing Powers)

his Neptune/Saturn opp my TUTENCHAMUN (0/1)
Everything, spiritual Neptune and karmic Saturn touches, feels very important to me.

his atlantis opp my PTAH (2)

COMPOSITE
my n HATHOR cj composite SPHINX/HATHOR
my n HORUS cj composite GIZA
my n ISIS cj composite IC
my n AC cj composite TUTENCHAMUN
my n IMHOTEP cj composite saturn/karma
my n GIZA cj composite moon
(conjuncts only, all within 2')

his n sun/moon mp cj composite IMHOTEP
his n HATHOR cj composite SPHINX/HATHOR
his n OSIRIS cj composite GIZA
his n ISIS cj composite TUTENCHAMUN
his n PTAH cj composite saturn/karma

posted November 03, 2009 02:31 PM         

when you posted your Egyptians asteroids, I was suddenly INSTANTLY reminded of someone, and I suspect that I`d might find relevant Egyptian links with him, too. Would you mind, if I shared them with you here?

Also, I have another question; it is just my curiosity.
How did you feel before you met this man? And how was it to meet him? Energetically wise especially.

I am very much into "energies" obviously, as this is what I can feel so easily myself. You know this saying "Something`s in the air", it is literal. At least that is what I have always sensed, like the air changes because of slight or drastic changes in the energies of people, when their moods shifts.

I guess, one astrological reason for this focus on "sensing" might be the fact that Reiki is conjunct my Sun, Mercury, Merlin, Circe and Sekhmet on the GC. And Aura conjunct Magion might be helpful, too.
Elektra is also exact conjunct my Spirit and also conjuncts my Isis, Osiris and Venus (and your Atlantis), and has been opposed by Transit Atlantis.
Hmm, seeing this, no wonder, I am always the one who is getting little electric shocks when the air gets to dry and I come too near to a car, a pullover, carpet or even some people.
I guess an Aquarius Moon might figure in here, too.

posted November 03, 2009 04:35 PM         

Share away - i'm so happy you feel comfortable enough to share on this thread. I love that!

posted November 03, 2009 05:10 PM         

And if someone else feels bothered by it, he or she shouldn`t be reading here.

Anyway, it is near to bedtime, so I only had a look at the EGYPTIAN asteroids to each other for now:

his Ubasti conjunct my Nephtys (1)
his Nepthys opposite my Ubasti (2)

his Ubasti opposite my Aigyptios (2)
his Aigyptios trine my Ubasti (2)

his Ubasti trine my Alexandra (0)
his Alexandra trine my Ptah (2)

his Echnaton square my Giza (0)
his Giza conjunct my Nofretete (1)

his Echnaton conjunct my Isis (2)
his Echnaton conjunct my Osiris (2)
his Isis square my Echnaton (1)

his Amenhotep conjunct my Nefertiti (1)

his Osiris conjunct my Amun (1)
his Sekhmet conjunct my Ubasti (2)
his Hathor opposite my Hathor (1)
his Hathor conjunct my Sphinx (1)

his Anubis opposite my Anubis (1)
his Echnaton opposite my Tut (2)
his Nefertiti conjunct my Ubasti (3)
his Tut conjunct my Selquet (2)
his Ramses conjunct my Neith (2)
his Selquet conjunct my Ubasti (1)
his Neith opposite my Ramses (0)

posted November 03, 2009 05:55 PM         

nope, I haven`t.
In those instances I agree with you, I would have agreed with you before reading these forums here, too.
And in those I don`t agree with you, I still don`t.

If anything, reading on this forum has only strenghtened my trust into my own intuition and my own opinion.
I have realized, that I am not so easily swayed as I used to think.

posted November 03, 2009 06:09 PM         

I place so much value on the kinds of love that come from real, deep, in-person, mutual relationships in this lifetime that deepen, transform, and grow over time.

posted November 03, 2009 07:41 PM         

It seems to me that the people whom fall in love with anyone whom gives them adequate 'real-time' attention are also the ones seeking to justify their relationships through astrology.

posted November 03, 2009 08:19 PM         

how long have you been here in LL?more than me i suppose?

i have been here for 3 years and most of us who are here,dont actually use astrology to project fantasies...

when we start a thread,when we iniciated these asteroids researches for example,we already know intuitively what we are going to find.And we use real life examples. not an actor or famous person with our charts...we arent teens looking to see if brad pitt was a lover of ours or if we were Queen Kleopatra....????

but then again...who are we to JUDGE? cause i know i am Ana and Lara is Lara and DD is DD...im not in their shoes and i dont definately know the depth of their feelings torwards someone for example...as you cannot also say that A B or C is fantasizing something that doesnt exist!

how do you know really?

Do you know us?Who we are?do you know our feelins?do you know if i am having a relationship with A or B or C?maybe i did had,maybe i didnt,maybe we just took a time off..and i want to study our charts.what is the fantasy on that? i am the one who knows what we had together,the depth,the strenght,the (un)explainable love that we shared....even if it was a suden encounter,just some moments together,time is an illusion really...Time doenst say anything about Love.About Truth...

and this stands for all of us...

what your posts start to proof to me (at least) is that you are somewhat a specktic about the spiritual side of life...Are you?

are you one of those persons who doenst believe that Life IS magic?do you think that all has to have a rational explanation?

what is life to you really? do you think we have only one chance to be happy?one tiny chance? do you think that someone famous today cannot be a true love soulmate of someone who chosed a non famous path today?what is the common denominator here?....THOUGHT....

LIFE cannot be explained through THOUGHTS..that is where it lies your confusion when you look at our posts.

all i am sayin is that most of us who are here at LL do have a purpose on being here.One which is not simply pure astrology as you know it.

you might have seen by now that some of us are really on another path level,something which is not easily perceived...it cant be knownned through Mind/Egothought.as you are trying to do..

dont try to understand things that your soul is not ready to know...yet.

posted November 03, 2009 10:15 PM         

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we arent teens looking to see if brad pitt was a lover of ours or if we were Queen Kleopatra....????

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I could have sworn that someone who did not know Johnny Depp in real life was posting (with great encouragement from others) about her deep Soul Connection with Johnny Depp. As someone who had a dear friend harmed by one of his fans whose delusional disorder went untreated, I hate to see that kind of obsessional ideation encouraged to that degree.

quote:

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i am the one who knows what we had together,the depth,the strenght,the (un)explainable love that we shared....even if it was a suden encounter,just some moments together,time is an illusion really...

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You can know what YOU feel for someone, not necessarily what they feel for you. As I have explained elsewhere, the fantasy that you have a MUTUAL connection in another life or at another level with a stranger you are fixated on or someone you know, who does not want to be with you takes away the power of that person to say NO to you and have it taken seriously.

My friend was not able to say NO to his fan and have her honor that, because she felt that on some other level they were "meant to be." Thinking like much of the thinking I see on this forum nourishes such delusions.

quote:

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are you one of those persons who doenst believe that Life IS magic?do you think that all has to have a rational explanation?

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I exactly think life is magic!! I think the connections between people are thrilling, magical miracles. I don't think exploring things deeply, digging beneath the surface, or looking for explanations detracts in the slightest from enjoying spirituality or delighting in the magic, beauty, and poetry of life and love. Quite the contrary.

I find and express my spirituality through art, creativity, love of nature, charitable works, love and passion and deep, dreamwork, intuitive practices, sensual pleasures, intimate connections with people and other creatures on all levels (not just romantic, obviously--all the kinds of connections), meditation...lots of ways.

As I have said elsewhere, I think ALL BEINGS are profoundly, and equally, connected on the soul level. I don't think there are heirachies or fissures on that level. We are all connected, beautifully and intimately, to every other molecule in the universe (and beyond!)...at the real soul level, our connection to a lizard or a blade of grass is just as meaningful and wonderful as our connection to other humans.

It is in daily, lived reality that we enjoy beautiful, transformational, and intimate connections with each other as seperate beings meeting. I think that's completely magical.

My sense that thinking Jude Law, Johnny Depp (unless you are friends with them in real life), your former colleague who was in another relationship and who you never hooked up with and are not in touch with, Cleopatra, or the Queen of Sheba is your "Soul Mate" or in your "Soul Family" makes you a fantasist...and in the case of celebrity fixations, someone whose ideation could ladder into a potentially dangerous delusional disorder...doesn't mean that I have no spiritual life!

quote:

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dont try to understand things that your soul is not ready to know...yet.

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Exploring the world, and one's soul, is one of the greatest pleasures and most important things in life. Trying to understand is a beautiful thing...it's so sad when, instead, people stop thinking consciously and questioning actively.

posted November 04, 2009 01:16 AM         

Diandra,

posted November 04, 2009 01:47 AM         

quote:

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you might have seen by now that some of us are really on another path level,something which is not easily perceived...it cant be knownned through Mind/Egothought.as you are trying to do..

dont try to understand things that your soul is not ready to know...yet.

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It's true that sometimes I'm judgmental...but, DD, to me the above quote is highly, highly judgmental, nothing to applaud.

I think if someone on this forum WERE really enlightened, he/she wouldn't go on about how his/her soul was on another level than someone else's. Talk about judgmental!

Anyway, DD, I do see your point about my posts. But I wish someone had seen all the red flags with the woman who harmed my friend before her delusional disorder escalated the way it did. I feel if someone had spoken to her about delusional disorders and their symptoms, it would have spared many people (including that poor woman) grief and harm. Very weirdly, he has been mentioned in these forums. By people who don't know him.