posted November 04, 2009 04:35 PM         

all you have to do is love me and let my personality run all over your life path and you'll be fine mwahhhh

LOL!!!! I knew thos asteroids would show up!! LOL

posted November 04, 2009 04:48 PM         

Moon is VERY important, as it is not only significant of our emotional core, but also signifies memories from very long ago, maybe related to anchestry, or even past lives?

OH MY GOD, I just checked the chart of the guy, whom I used to believe to be an incarnation of my Roman lover.

His Lidiya is conjunct my Marcustacitus and VAlentine.
His Marcusaurelius is conjunct my Moon and widely conjuncts my Lidiya.
His Marcustacitus is conjunct my Draco Moon and Draco Lidiya and tropical DESC.

His Roma conjuncts his name (actually his two names) in my chart and conjuncts his own Saturn.
My Roma squares my name in my chart and his name in his chart (our names are exactly opposite) and inconjuncts my Saturn.

I guess, there could be some truth to this Roman life flashback.

posted November 04, 2009 05:10 PM         

I'm so happy for you!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeee! This is so exciting! But I need your help! Did you do a first meeting chart for the 1/19 meeting? (you know I'm American so we do our dates backwards)

I saw the Karma transits thread someone else posted and so I checked Karma transits and the whole first meeting chart for me and Aqua man and OMG! I have totally freaked myself out! Look at this! All orbs are conjunctions of 3 or less, most much tighter.

My natal transits:

tSaturn conj Vertex
Karma transiting 7th house

My Progressed transits:

tSun conj pDSC
tMoon conj pVenus

His natal transits:

tMoon conj Vertex and Valentine (!)
tKarma conj Mars

His Progressed transits:

tTrue Node conj pDSC

Our Composite transits (including progressed):

tVenus conj composite DSC
tKarma conj composite Juno
Moon transiting composite 7th house
tKarma conj the progressed (to that date) composite Nadir

All that was going on at the time of first meeting...Ahhhhhhh! Oh my god! Cue freak out! O_o

posted November 04, 2009 05:35 PM         

FYI, Marcus Aurelius is a famous Roman emperor, one of the greatest of all time. If you have seen the film "Gladiator", he is featured prominently there, although not quite with complete historical accuracy.

EDIT: You say the name Lidiya rings a bell...perhaps you are recalling the name "Livia"...I am drawn to the name also. There is one particularly famous Livia in Roman history...she was the wife of Caesar! Augustus Caesar. And her father's name was Marcus...and her grandfather's...and her brother's...

posted November 04, 2009 05:37 PM         

The philosopher on the throne, yes now I remember!

posted November 05, 2009 08:06 AM         

I checked the soulmate calculator with the Egyptian guy and the score was 79 points (with the Pluto-Proserpina-square 84 points).

I DID include Aphrodite / Mars (as Aphrodite is the same goddess as Venus) and Astarte / Adonis (as Astarte is a form of Inannen).

If you do that, I am sure, you might score over 80, maybe even 90 points with your Twin.

(Well, actually, if I reduce the orbs to 3 degree for conjunction and 2 degree for the other aspects, and keept very strictly to it, and leaving out AStarte and Aphrodite, the score is still over 60 points, which I find to be surprisingly high.)

posted November 05, 2009 09:45 AM         

I am a bit bored, so I thought I have a look at the first aspects you posted on this thread.

"His dr PERSEPHONE cj my N PLUTO (0)
his dr PROSERPINA opp my dr PLUTO (3)
Seems to have been a very intense relationship in a past life.
Interestingly it is your Pluto and his Persephone / Proserpina. Did YOU pull him into transformational mode?
Did the love to him hit you seemingly out of the blue, and you weren`t able to clear a form thought until you "had" him? (I am not talking about sexual relations necessarily).
And did he need to "grow up" and let himself get seduced by you, which brought transformations into both of your lives?
Even though Pluto is the first to fall in love, his power is so strong, that it must have been very overwhelming to him.

"his n VALENTINE cj my dr PLUTO (0)
his dr VALENTINE opp my dr PERSEPHONE (1)"
I really really love this one. It is like he loves all parts of your transformational personality.
Hmm, maybe in a past life he truely loved your innocence and ability to mature and become a full-blooded woman (Persephone - from an innocent virginal girl to a sexually and magically mature and powerful woman).
And now in this incarnation he truely loves the power you have, the passion and courage for transformations, which stems from past life experiences, that somehow made you stronger.

"His PLUTO trine my VENUS (0)"
It`s a nice one. Transformational in a harmonious way and with pleasant intensity, but not too much too handle (trine is very comforting).

"s dr VENUS sq my n PLUTO (3)"
Hmm, very strong sexual intensity and passion in a past life, but maybe mixed with powerplays, issues of posessiveness and jealousy. Maybe you were just "too much" for him. But 3 degrees is pretty wide, so I don`t know. ONly you can know if this is valid.

posted November 05, 2009 10:42 AM         

I really love your interpretation of these aspects, especially the significance of the transformational aspects of Lara being Pluto in the first one and also the way he has perhaps observed her womanly transformations over many lifetimes and has fallen in love with her as she has undergone this process. So romantic!

As far as you and Rome...I can't shake the feeling that you had an important life there. That Marcus Aurelius placement is something else! Such a powerful figure would have had an impact on anyone living in those times but it seems more than that, I am getting this weird feeling that may have been an intimate of these Marcuses more than you know. Not necessarily a person a fame or fortune but an intimate nonetheless. Do you ever get the feeling when you are reading history that it is not history to you but recollection?

posted November 05, 2009 12:29 PM         

thanks for the appreciation of my interpretation.

Well, regarding Rome, I have always known that I have had a past life there. The first recall I ever had.
I was learning Latin in school from my 10th year on (now I am teaching this language; I have only gone 1 year without that language, and I felt something was lacking. That is almost embarassing to say ).

I am not sure who I was, I am staggering between having been a slave girl from Greece (but somehow in a higher rank if that makes sense, like I was working at court) to a relative of the royal family, not directly linked maybe.
But it is not the time of Marcus Aurelius that speaks to me, but the 1st century, when Octavian reigned.

I always have been doing some essay on the poems of Sulpicia, the only woman to be known to ever have written poetry in ancient Rome. She was the niece of Messalla, who had gathered an illustrious group of poets around him.
Ovidius was known in this circle, too, the poet I have done my oral exam on. On a rarely read work of his: HEROIDES, fictive letters of women to their heroes (who mostly have deserted them).
(My written exam was on SAllust, some years before Ocativans reign, and Properz, another poet, but I didn`t felt as connected to Properz as I do to Ovidius).

As a matter of fact asteroid Ovidius is on my Pluto, Plato, Compassion, Transylvania and MC AND conjuncts my Draco Karma.

Funny though, Messalla`s first name was Marcus (a very common name), and he supported Ovidius for a time. But well, Ovidius eventually lost Octavian`s favour, as he was rumoured to have had scandalous relations or knowledge about such, which involved Iulia, Octavian`s daughter.
I like Iulia, well I liked her when I first heard of her; she never let anyone tell her what to do, not even in such a repressive time!
She was married very often (dynastic marriages) and often unhappily, and mostly to men with the name Marcus. lol
But she was having uncountable affairs at the same time and "partied" much, so much in fact that her father eventually sent her into exile, where she died.

*sighs* Sorry for all that long sermon, but this is the time period I feel most connected to.
And I can`t stand Livia! She was a powerhungry selfish coldblooded ***** !
My antipathy almost feels personal. lol

And yes I often get the feeling of recollection, of remembering.
Sometimes, when I haven`t prepared myself well for the lesson, I start telling my pupils about something in Rome or even in Greek (Delphi was such a case), and they will kind of get blurry in front of my eyes, and instead of lecturing about something I have read, I start seeing images and I describe to them what I see, and it is always right, always.
In those moments it is very very silent in class, and afterwards nearly everyone of them can tell me for a long time, what I have told them. It could happen more often though.

Oh and they love my references to Matrix.

REgarding your first meeting chart:

It depends on what fate is to you. To me it is a meeting that may be predestined and maybe many things led to this moment, but that doesn`t mean that it will become an everlasting happy relationship. Sometimes fate can also be just one moment.
Also fate may deal you the cards, but YOU have to play them.

"tSaturn conj Vertex
Karma transiting 7th house"
Significant development in the relationship area with serious karma attached (both Karma and Saturn)

"My Progressed transits:

tSun conj pDSC
tMoon conj pVenus"

Again, the relationship area is being highlighted.
Strong emotions.

"tMoon conj Vertex and Valentine (!)
tKarma conj Mars"
Triggering of romantic feelings and love? At least in this moment?
An old, past life, desire coming back ?
Or maybe a readdressing of his self-images as a man?

"is Progressed transits:

tTrue Node conj pDSC"
JEEZ, definitely another hint at the relationship area.
Something fated there.
Events he has no control about influence his relationships.

"Our Composite transits (including progressed):

tVenus conj composite DSC
tKarma conj composite Juno
Moon transiting composite 7th house
tKarma conj the progressed (to that date) composite "
Very strong emphasis on relationship. Maybe a reawakening of an old commitment?

EDIT:

Interesting I am having:

Ovidius on 7 Libra
Pluto on 9 Libra
MC on 5 Libra
DRaco Karma on 6 Libra

Augusta on 8 Aquarius

Plus:

Julia on 13 Libra
Aphrodite on 13 Libra
Octavia(n) on 14 Libra

(Briede is on the Kundalini degree on 13 Aries and Groom on 11 Sagittarius)

trine Roma on 15 Aquarius (Moon on 17 Aqua)
trine Lijdia on 16 Aquarius
(my current name is on 16 Taurus)
trine Ubasti on 15 Aquarius

trine Karma on 16 Gemini
trine Kaali on 12 Gemini
trine Inannen on 12 Gemini

I wasn`t a bad girl, was I?

posted November 05, 2009 05:16 PM         

LOL @ your hate of Livia. That does sound personal. And you do have some freaky, funky stuff going on in your chart. Have you ever had a past life regression done? Actually, you are so intuitive with yours you probably don't need one, but I would love to have it done, it's just so cost prohibitive.

Where on earth is Lara? LOL. If either of you get a chance, pop into the Lexigram forum, and check out the lexigrams I have done of me and Aqua's names. I have no interest in lexigrams, I have no idea what compelled me to go over there, I just happened to pop in there, browsed the forum, did the lexigrams, and now have managed to completely freak myself out with what I got (again).

posted November 14, 2009 03:26 PM         

I looked at LEXI's but can't figure out how to do such long lexigrams and what key words to look for lol!!

posted November 15, 2009 12:06 PM         

I put this as a question to IQ but i wanted to share this with you because i just think it's gobsmacking lol

They are the transits/progressions for the date we MET and the date we declared our love. He is not even the same age as me so the likelihood of these DW's being a coincidence must be next to zero, i'd think.

The briede/groom on the SN's is just *(&$%**^*@&$)(@ !!!!

His T valentine opp his n Boda (1)
My T valentine opp my n groom (3)

His T Briede cj his n Saturn
My T Saturn cj my n boda

My T valentine opp my n groom
my T NN opp my n valentine
my T briede opp my n sun

His T groom opp his n AC
His Pr AC opp his n Briede
my Pr AC cj my n valentine
my Pr briede cj my n valentine exact

my Pr IC cj my n boda
His Pr IC cj his n venus

His Pr sun opp his n NN
My T sun opp my n NN

His T DNA opp his N Saturn
My T DNA cj my n Saturn

His T sun cj his n AC
my T moon cj my n AC

posted November 15, 2009 01:02 PM         

those are really gobsmacking.
Reminds me of how I thought my eyes were popping out of my sockets when I discovered these Briede/Groom-aspects in my synastry:

his Briede conjunct my Groom
his Groom conjunct my Briede

his Briede conjunct my NN
my Briede squares his NN
my Groom solstice conjunct his NN
his Groom exact trine my NN

his Briede conjunct my ASC
my Groom conjunct his ASC

" age as me so the likelihood of these DW's being a coincidence must be next to zero, i'd think."
Yes, definitely. Did you ask IQ for the probability factor?
He calculated the probability for me for the existence of a DW of Briede-Groom-conjunction like in my synastry and said it was one in a billion.
I am actually still trying to get myself up from the floor again.

"he briede/groom on the SN's is just *(&$%**^*@&$)(@ !!!!"
YEs, I think this must be a clear indication of a past life marriage.

"(so he has groom on his NN and briede on his SN and I have my briede on my SN?!!!) Is that as incredible as it sounds? lol"
I think so. Yes. lol

posted November 15, 2009 01:29 PM         

my word - im not surprised you are still making your way back to your chair! lol

I know!!

and the T/pr sun DW on the SN too!!! geez

Briede on saturn, the AC stuff and two beauties on the IC.

man, i wonder what IQ will think of these? I hope they don't all point to past life stuff and no present life yummies.

Anyhow, the amazing thing is that i'm sure i mentioned to you that i felt this was going the marriage route and it was only today, having read Diandra's awesome aspects with her man in the IQ questions 'thread' that i sat down and worked mine out.

posted November 15, 2009 02:49 PM         

these aspects were unfortunately "only" with Jude.
But still this synastry with him never ceases to amaze me. *shaking head* I am still desperately seeking a synastry that is more intense and stronger than the one with him. So far - no luck. And I have been searching for that synastry x since 2005.

Actually I think the probability would even be lower than one in a billion, if we consider the connections to the ASC and NN`s, too.

But never mind.

Regarding you, I think only you can really know if it is heading into a future marriage. But so far it is looking positive, isn`t it?

VIG,

I am not surprised. Not at all.

BTW my Adonis is on 28 Libra and my Union on 29 Libra. I am mentioning this, cause of course Adonis is the male part in the Babylonian couple of Adonis and Inanna.
And you remember our Babylonian interconnections, donīt you?

posted November 15, 2009 03:05 PM         

How are you doing with your Twin Flame, btw? (h)

and my

AMOR 25' Aries
SUN/MOON M=point 27' Aries

Yeah DD - looks that way
It's bonding more and more in a very healthy way!

posted November 15, 2009 03:32 PM         

TR Pluto conjunct my Boda

TR Juno conjunct my IC
TR Juno opposite his Pluto

TR Mars conjunct my SN
Tr Mars opposite my Groom
TR Mars opposite his Briede
TR Mars conjunct his DESC
TR Mars opposite his Venus

Tr Venus opposite my Sun

Tr Saturn opposite my Juno
TR Saturn opposite his Eros

TR Karma conjunct my Pluto
Tr Karma conjunct his MC

Tr Karma opposite my Briede
Tr Karma opposite his Groom

Progressions:

My Pr Mars and pr Groom conjunct my Sun

My Pr Jupiter conjunct my Juno

my Pr Juno conjunct my IC

my Pr Karma (exact conjunct Transit Mars!) conjunct my SN
my Pr Karma opposite my Groom
his Pr Saturn opposite his Venus and Briede
his Pr Juno conjunct his Venus and Briede

my Pr Destinn conjunct my Saturn

my Pr Briede conjunct my Chiron
my Pr Briede opposite my DNA
his Pr Groom conjunct his Chiron (and exact on my Briede)

my Pr Amor and pr ASC conjunct my Venus and Boda
his Pr Karma opposes his Valentine
(his Pr Karma also conjuncts my Venus, Boda, pr Amor and pr ASC!)
his Pr Sun opposite his Boda

my Pr Boda opposite my Saturn (and exact on his NN and Destinn)

Oh WOW, I just noticed:
He was having a pr Mars-Briede-conjunction, while I was having a pr Mars-Groom-conjunction, and both were conjunct my Sun and my name in his chart!

my Pr Valentine conjunct my True Node, ASC and Groom

posted November 15, 2009 04:06 PM         

my T KARMA cj my N karma/juno EXACT and opp my sun EXACT!
my T sun cj my n vertex/psyche
my T destinn cj my n psyche EXACT
my pr psyche cj my n vertex EXACT
my pr union cj my n AC

His T union opp his n karma EXACT
his T union cj his n cupid/NN EXACT
His T eros cj his n IC EXACT
his T valentine cj his n Union/sun
his T psyche opp his n valentine/MC
his T destinn cj his AC EXACT
his T NN cj his n lust
his T eros cj his n NN
His T moon cj his n vertex
His pr vertex opp his n moon
his T pluto opp his n vertex

His pr juno cj his n vertex EXACT
his pr vertex opp his n cupid EXACT
his pr karma cj his n venus/eros
his pr AC opp his n vertex!!
his pr sun cj his n aphrodite EXAT

posted November 15, 2009 04:23 PM         

What does it mean if my n surname is (1) cj his n SN please in synastry?

and on the day we met y surname was transiting cj his saturn/neptune (1) and opp his eros (0)
also my T LARA was opp his n karma (2)

OMG!!!!
and in his progressed/natal for date we met
his T LARA was cj his SN (1) my surname (in his chart) (0)
His PR union was cj his LARA
his Pr sun/mercury/mars/Lara was cj my surname in his chart (2)
AND
to mirror the above synastry natal aspect,
his progressed LARA was cj EXACT his progressed (my surname) and his SN - all in his chart hahaha

OK
this is weird...

for the day we met
in his chart alone.

Pr LARA opp n NN (1)
pr NN opp MY SURNAME (0)
huh??

then in my chart (lol)
my pr PETER cj my n sun EXACT
my pr PETER opp my n VERTEX (4) JUNO/KARMA EXACT!
my pr NN cj my n PETER/NN/saturn/venus/moon
my n PETER opp my pr moon

God damn Astrology is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!