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Topic: Does venus and mars in virgo make someone sexually retarded?
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koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 09:41 PM
VL - you are onto something there  belgz - either train him fast or get rid of him. My advice is train him fast, because being a Venus in Virgo myself, all I can say is WE ARE HOT when we get started!!!!!!!  IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 10:34 PM
belgz - I have the perfect godzala present for your guy  IP: Logged |
Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 576 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 10:48 PM
Belgz,I dont think this is an issue of astrological signs but more a mental issue. I'm Virgo Sun, Cappy moon, yes I really dont sleep around but I'm not as "paranoid," as your guy sounds to be. Besides, I find myself & other Virgos I know, really open minded (more so than other signs)--until proven something seriously doesnt work. Your guy reminds me of this guy I once dated, who was Gemini Sun & Mercury, Taurus Venus. He was really open minded, easy going in general. He was experimental on every frontier but when it came to sex, he thought a lot of things were bad...like watching porn, fantasizing about other women/celebs during sex with the gf, or masturbating while gf is sleeping next to him. It turns out his long term ex had forbade him to do all these things...and brainwashed him into thinking it's shameful or bad. Anyways, maybe your guy was in this situation...or he was brought up intensely religious, so he feels ashamed. Instead of trying to understand him from just looking at his astrological placements...I suggest you try to crack him open psychologically. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 11:14 PM
I think it could be moon in the 8th. There was discussion about this -- it was moon or venus in the 8th and not being into toys and "kinky" stuff. I have moon and venus in sag in the 8th and I have never had phone sex or talked dirty in my life. I'm late 30's. I tried a vibrator a few times at the age of 31 only because I was the only person I knew who hadn't. I didn't get the big deal and it went into the trash. All the other people in the moon/venus 8th house thread were similiar in this regard. We're not prudish, we just don't enjoy that, which is weird being the house of scorpio. We were also all women in that thread. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 11:24 PM
Diana - From posts on here and just your overall style.. you come across like such an energetic - upbeat person. I was convinced you were a lot younger.. I mean this as a compliment btw (I know we were at it a while ago - so don't take it the wrong way). I just think you have a really lively vibe. Do you have anything in Aries or Gemini?IP: Logged |
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posted January 20, 2010 03:22 AM
LOl thanks Vaporlash  I understand what all you guys are saying, but i honestly can not live or be with a man like that. And he doesnt look relaxed or anything while hes having sex. He asked me today how he can improve but i dont think its something you can really teach unless your willing to experiment. I mean i cant turn him into a robot saying dont do this or do that.. He needs to relax. Hes shy to even initiate sex. I have to move his hands and tell him how to touch me. Were going to get a hotel room on monday night for Australia Day and im going to get him really drunk and see if he can relax a bit more and then i will try and corrupt him a bit more :P I honestly think its very sad that hes lived till 32 and has missed out on great sex. I do think it might even be our synastry. His venus is sextile my mars. I am the mars person here. But even regardless he needs to get out of his shell. I havent had alot of sexual partners and i was worried i would have issues adjusting to a new partner after 10 years with the same person. Hes very soft and instead of holding me like a man he runs his fingers down my body which not only irritates me and makes me impatient, it isnt even a turn on. Every other way hes so perfect. Hes romantic hes a dreamer like me but where are his dreams if he doesnt fantasise and live those out? ------------------ •' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ • "If a theory is evidently or probably untrue, or pernicious, or at all harmful, it is to be rejected and condemned" IP: Logged |
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posted January 20, 2010 03:29 AM
Bluemoon quote: You've got a way with words, Belgz. But I want to know - how does he do missionary in the shower? It could be his wife liked his version of sex, so there was no need for him to experiment or do anything differently. Will he do it for you? That's the thing.
Well his wife was also a cancerian with a gemini venus and scorpio mars. I doubt she enjoyed it. And im pretty sure that venus in gemini might like a bit more variety in sex.
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posted January 20, 2010 03:32 AM
koiflower quote: belgz - either train him fast or get rid of him. My advice is train him fast, because being a Venus in Virgo myself, all I can say is WE ARE HOT when we get started!!!!!!!
Please tell me how to get this hot side out of himmmmmm  I would definitely love this man alot i i got that out of him..  ------------------ ' .´°° LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL ..°°´ "If a theory is evidently or probably untrue, or pernicious, or at all harmful, it is to be rejected and condemned" IP: Logged |
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posted January 20, 2010 03:37 AM
Diana quote: I think it could be moon in the 8th.
My ex bf i was with for 10 years had moon in Aqua in 8th. He was up for anything and everything i wanted. He also had venus in aries and mars in libra. Well lets hope maybe pluto entering his 8th house will bring changes in his sex life even though for some reason i think sex is ruled by the 5th house. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 4313 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 05:53 AM
I don't understand why Virgo gets beaten up in the threads. I think Virgo has a real quiet, real Earth-based/Earth-mother, purely giving sexuality. It's not in your face and maybe that's misunderstood. It's not overt, but I think Virgo is very very sexual.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 4313 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 05:53 AM
BelgzGetting him drunk could also produce the effect where he can't function at all. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5033 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 06:04 AM
<< All the other people in the moon/venus 8th house thread were similiar in this regard. We're not prudish, we just don't enjoy that, which is weird being the house of scorpio. We were also all women in that thread. >> Which makes sense when the 8th House is mapped to Capricorn. And I agree in part with Belgz, 5th House rules JOYFUL and romantic sex. Try these keywords, they will map better than conventional house systems [though harsh aspects to Mars and stelliums near the Ascendant can skew the results] 8th House = Karmic Sex. 9th House = Raunchy Sex (with a Foreigner or in a foreign land during vacation) 10th House = "Perfectly executed" passionate sex. 7th House = Innovative sex 11th House = Artful and Beautiful Sex 1st House = Selfish Sex 2nd House = Clingy Sex 3rd House = Phone Sex/Cyber Sex 4th House = Best sex after marriage 5th House = Joyful, romantic sex 12th House = Sexual Obsession 6th House = Sexual Fantasy
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koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 06:06 AM
quote: Please tell me how to get this hot side out of himmmmmm
Belgz - being with a Virgo Venus should be like falling in love for the first time. Remember the time when things were awkward, you didn't move fast enough, or hard enough, or when you got to know each other better it went from great to super fantastic - it should be like that. Assume he is still a Virgin in the sense that you will fall in love with him like it was the first time and he will fall in love with you as he gets to know you deeper, like it's the first time for him. Virgo Venus is the sexual 'diety' from the Vestal Virgin days, so honour his ability to allow you to fall in love with him like it's the first time. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 07:50 AM
Koi,that was very beautifully put.  IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted January 20, 2010 08:28 AM
The Venus in Virgo man I know is just a friendship but when he talks about relationships, I hear that he wants the ideal lover. He wants it all. He wants someone he can really respect and idolize, too. IP: Logged |
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 148 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 09:35 AM
I totally agree with AmiAnn!!! BUT what happens if Virgo Venus is combined with Mars in Aries? Or if Virgo Aries is combined with Scorpio Venus or Aries Venus?? Which side is prominent?IP: Logged |
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posted January 20, 2010 10:43 AM
OOKKKK I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!Tonight i made him drink some scotch and tonight it was a very different story !! Hes improving. Theres hope LOL But i think virgo combined with cancer shyness .isnt too great. But im virgo rising too and im nothing like him. Looking back at what IQ wrote about the houses.. I have sun mercury and mars in 10th. Maybe i was being a perfectionist and not giving him a chance but either way hes still weird. I have mars conjunct my MC too i wonder how that affects me. Tonight i turned on a porno and he went bright red. I thought it was so funny. Hes like a virgin..
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 12:21 PM
iQ,Great list. Speaks very truthfully and offers great insight! IP: Logged |
katatonic unregistered
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posted January 20, 2010 12:30 PM
well one thing i would definitely suggest is don't expect virgo influences to be like aquas at ALL. a world of difference.honestly though, some of the best lovers need to get to know you - in bed - before they really bloom. are you being a little harsh on him maybe? IP: Logged |
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posted January 20, 2010 12:44 PM
katatonic.I wasnt harsh on him, in fact im extra nice since hes such a sook. I think you might be right he may blossom later. Maybe my virgo rising makes me critical of him. But my venus in leo is demanding some high standards!! I need a guy with fire. Pdf where r uuuuu lol IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 12:46 PM
quote: I understand what all you guys are saying, but i honestly can not live or be with a man like that. And he doesnt look relaxed or anything while hes having sex. He asked me today how he can improve but i dont think its something you can really teach unless your willing to experiment. I mean i cant turn him into a robot saying dont do this or do that.. He needs to relax. Hes shy to even initiate sex. I have to move his hands and tell him how to touch me.
And you should be with someone who wants the same things as you. Maybe you two are just just different in this area. Give it a chance. He may open up, but if he doesn't you should be with someone who is more in tune with you and so should he. Re your other guy with moon/8th. I find aqua acts differently on the cusp of the 8th than some other signs. Vaporlash: Thanks. I don't have anything in gemini or aries. I'm trying to think of what it could be ( I get this IRL too). It may be aquarius or sag placements, which are all of my placements, really. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5033 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 01:18 PM
Thanks Meta. Just connect that list to a guys Mars, Eros, LUST in various houses in accordance with the core themes of the Sign. The average of that will give you a decent idea of his sexuality. Assume: EROS = passion when deeply in love, 25% weightage Mars = General Sexuality, 50% weightage. LUST = Behaviour after being turned on, 25%. Mars in 4th Taurus, Scorpio or Aries, LUST in 10th and EROS in 5th would be one of the best combinations. Mars in 10th Sag, LUST in 8th and EROS in 5th will work very well too. Mars conj LUST conj EROS in 10th Scorpio = James Bond. Mars conj LUST in Aries 10th = Male Wh*re.
Mars in 1st or 5th or 10th Fire Sign alone can be excellent for short term flings. In most houses, LUST in Leo is NOT so good, EROS in Cancer will be over-chivalrous, EROS in Capricorn takes a while to rev up. 10th or 5th House can mask those deficiencies. Mars in 2nd Cancer or Pisces squared by Saturn is the most hopeless male as far as sex is concerned. Saving grace for him can be LUST conj EROS in Aries or Scorpio. Mars square LUST square EROS = Useless/Dangerous Perv, one must look at Nessus here as well! The above are not rules set in stone, just observations and insights which can be used as a starting point. For BelgZ: You are also using an awfully lopsided Placidus Chart for him, that chart is just too innaccurate. In reality, he is extra Cancerian with 2nd House Cancer Sun and 4th House Virgo Mars. He is incapable of forcing himself on a woman even if he has not had sex for 100 years and they are both alone in an island. He needs rock solid commitment all the time. That moon is 7th Capricorn. Ask yourself this difficult question: Has his social status gone up because of you? Is he with you for this or because he genuinely loves you? Half his mind is on cash flow and on "being mentally insecure"/worrying for whatever Cancerian reason. He may still be feeling guilty about his ex-wife for all you know. His martial arts career is actually an outlet to convince himself that he is not insecure. If you both genuinely want to commit to each other, then you somehow must bring out the magical Pluto in 5th House Libra in him, it will steadily bring him to your required sexuality levels.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 01:51 PM
Very interesting, IQ.  What would you look for in a woman`s chart in terms of her sexuality? Venus, Psyche and Aphrodite maybe? Or Juno? EDIT: Belgz, I hope you can get this sorted out, especially if he really is that nice and sweet.
But if not, I agree with Diana. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 02:36 PM
Other Mars placements go partial sexual retard. Only Mars in Virgo goes full sexual retard. Cuz we're kinky like that. (Tropic Thunder reference.)On to his chart. He has an earth grand trine with Moon-Chiron-Venus. Looks like Chiron is on his Moon/Venus mp. I'd say his emotional nature is blocked in some way. If you can open him in that area, he'll become more open and expressive sexually as well. The emotions (Moon and Venus) are linked to his sexuality (earth grand trie). Especially since he's a Cancer, feeling secure emotionally is vital for him. Chiron impacting his Moon & Venus shows that there's something heavy going on preventing him from feeling that security. Since it's a grand trine, he has the potential for expressing those elements of himself with a skill that could surpass even a Leo Venus' standards . But as long as one part is suffering, the whole grand trine is going to be working kinda crappy. My opinion. No need to comment on any of this here, but I'd look at what his relationships were like with his mom and early girlfriends. You might see his specific emotional issues and needs there. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 20, 2010 02:38 PM
iQ - Loved your list and examples. I found that list quite accurate, which now has me yet again unsure about which house system to use. Thanks. IP: Logged |