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Lara
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posted January 21, 2010 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ taureans not minding having LOADS of SEX hahaha

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posted January 21, 2010 09:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus should get a medal babe.. Im very proud of them

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posted January 21, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Belgz, been lurking on this thread in amusement just because i TOTALLY agree with what your opinions on sex cos I'm exactly the same, there has to be that fire/passion/desire otherwise, forget about it. Had a boyfriend that was the ultimate wet blanket and plenty of others that were just cold, dead fish..if you cant bring the sexy on...FOOOOOORGET it

I think i got very similar placements to you: sun/mercury/mars in Cancer, Libra moon & Aries rising with a Taurus venus to boot

My last ex was a Taurus..they're awesome in bed he had a nice big fat one and loved to f**k like a bull all night long until i couldn't take it, even after we broke up we were still at it for 6 months after until he left for overseas

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posted January 21, 2010 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, gimme the damn medal!!

Actually, it's all true.. all my bf's have said i am an incredible lover LOL

I would literally die without sex. DIE!
I am the same as what IQ said but i have all those planets in my 11th instead.

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posted January 21, 2010 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooh what planets are they?? I think u got Aries rising like me..u so sounds like one hot mama Lara

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posted January 21, 2010 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belgz,

I don't think anyone thinks you're a nympho, at least I don't. I think you two are just incompatible in that area.

I also think sex is very important in a couple, otherwise you're really just friends. The two people should want the same things or it will become a problem.

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posted January 21, 2010 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you know any of the girls he dated before you, you could ask them how he was with them.

If you're going to end it, the more time you leave it, the more he gets hurt, and you too.

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Lara
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posted January 21, 2010 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diablo - gemini AC

11th house sun/mercury/mars in taurus
10th house moon/venus/saturn/nn in aries

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posted January 22, 2010 12:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK i think im just going to have to end it. Hes going to be devastated. Hes very insecure and always thinks im going to break up with him. I dont know how im going to do it, or how im going to tell him that hes just not that great in bed and that were over!

After Australia Day which is Tuesday im going to spend the whole day with him and see if it can get better, however im not sure it will. Im upset too. I really like his personality however its long term compatibility that really matters.

I dont want to hang on and then argue and hurt each other. I want to stay friends... I wish i could inject him with some passion and energy, he has so much potential to be sexy but hes dull. Too damnn DULL!!

Hes a very decent guy and everyone loves him and sees him as someone whos very respectful. I am polite and respectful in public too or to other people but when im having sex i am no longer playing innocent and somehow im not so shy anymore either. Where is this mans wild side? Hes the type that doesnt get angry or yell or show emotion either.

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posted January 22, 2010 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He sounds great. That sucks that you don't have a good sex life together.

You cannot tell him it's because of the sex!!

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posted January 22, 2010 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belgz,

to be honest, it sounds as if you are not right for each other. Maybe as friends, yes, but not as lovers. Or mayb just not now.

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posted January 22, 2010 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BelgZ,
Once you know what exactly you need, then self-denial of this need is sinfulness.
As you put it, self-denial of sexual needs is the root cause of arguments and bitterness. Maybe even illnesses later in life from deeply held resentments.

Everyone has chipped in with excellent advice. If you end this now, it must be in a way that allows friendship.

And I would suggest you keep all options open. What if your ex decides to turn over a new leaf, disobey his mom and propose to you?

In general, you have discovered many useful synastry aspects for yourself as well, which are positive male Taurus aspects to your chart's erogenous zones, and this will be helpful for countless couples. That is a truckload of good karma in a way, and will help attract happy events someday.


Vapor, Lara and DD,
Glad you liked the list, it is purely from experience

I am not sure of pinpoint accuracy for other houses but I can provide useful keywords.
One important observation here is that LUST and Mars are working very well for both sexes. I am certain that the Sun is working equally well for both. Lara's case is essentially helped by having her Sun in Taurus. Vesta has a role. Venus has a strong role and so does Aphrodite in the way desire and seduction is expressed/appreciated. Magi chaps insist Pluto-Mars aspects.

I will try and come up with something useful later on for all 12 houses with as many asteroid/planet combinations as I can.

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And I would suggest you keep all options open. What if your ex decides to turn over a new leaf, disobey his mom and propose to you?

There is no way that would happen because i wouldnt take him back and i told his mum everything i felt in a very nice txt msg that wouldve done some irreversible damage


I cant stop thinking about whether i would make a mistake giving up his 1 million great qualities for sex. My ex had all the sex happening but nothing else. My ex boyfriend over indulged in EVERYTHING and i love how this guy is healthy and fit and loves to eat the right foods and is very protective and romantic and a gentleman. Im just going to have to decided soon i guess. Thankyou everyone for your help.


Im confused.

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Lara
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posted January 22, 2010 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok.

From experience, if the sex isn't right from the beginning it will never be right! Never compromise on love and sex. Bad mistake.

NEVER tell a guy the reason you ate dumping him!!!!! You will ruin his confidence for life. My first husband was so angry I left him that he told he I was crap in bed. I wasn't, he was just bitter but that comment stayed with me an affected me for over 10 years.!

My advice to you is to be gentle, be firm and not give up sex for other qualities because sex is glue and no matter how healthy he is or sweet he is, it's not going to cut it when the going gets tough!

It sounds like you aren't over your ex and could do
with a spell alone.
Why don't you tell him that?!

Good luck xx

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One thing about me is i know my own mind.

So a.) I find it hard to comprehend why someone needs to ask others what they should do when it's abundantly clear you're not going to want this guy forever Belg.
I mean ok suppose i turn round and say yes stick with it. Give it a few months. See what's on the inside of this guy. He sounds nice. Sex isn't everything. - Are you going to actually follow my advice.
I'd never follow anyone elses advice.
Ever.

My advice is marry him next week.


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There is no way that would happen because i wouldnt take him back and i told his mum everything i felt in a very nice txt msg that wouldve done some irreversible damage

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posted January 22, 2010 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Predom-Fire.
Instead of asking others what might be right for you at this point, you should ask yourself what is important for you...cuz despite everyone's opinions, your still really confused. Is sex really important, or is it not that important for YOU--only you could know that.

I absolutely agree with what Lara has said--cuz that is what SHE knows to be true that works for her.

Now what works for me, is entirely opposite. I cant compromise if someone's lacking intellect or kindness, no matter how intense physical attraction is. Sex isnt so important for me especially after an emotionally traumatic relationship with a long term ex (we had pluto-venus conj exact). He just wasnt treating me right despite the magically intense attraction. In the end was it worth it??...not really.
It's much easier changing someone's tastes...acquiring a certain taste for food, sex etc. You could think of him as a virgin, work on a clean slate. Science says, most women dont orgasm easily until their sexual peak in their 30's...it takes practice. Now changing someone's core personality, like if they're an irresponsible person, cheater, etc...total uphill battle.

Also, I work around 99% men...and what have I learnt?? plenty. That alot of men (not all), are just cheating scumbags for a variety of different reasons. Funny enough they tend to all tell me their reasons why, (to justify their cheating). I find a typical scenario lots of actors/producers/dir's get themselves into is, they have a hot gf or wife sitting at home (who's usually a selfish bimbo). Relationship started with great chemistry, but over time when the sex finally started to fizzle out a bit, they finally realize they're actually highly incompatible. They come to me thinking I could fill some intellectual void, or something their partner lacks. Then there's the hopeless scumbags who just cheat for the sake of cheating...highly sexed craze and sex is of uttermost importance. Now I'm not saying sex isnt important, cuz what Lara said is just as valid but ONLY if you identify with it.

Just for me, I would much rather have the guy who has perfect everything else over sex. If you look at the divorce rate, it goes to show how many people are blinded by certain things & cant make the core aspects work to stay together. Sex eventually fizzles out in any marriage, but a good man always stays a good man.

Your indecisiveness & holding onto him is a bit selfish, especially knowing he's this clingy towards you. Maybe your soul isnt ready for a man like him yet. One of my bestfriends always went for powerful men with looks or money but she always got hurt in the end. She really couldnt end that cycle until her soul was finally ready to go for a less handsome fellow (whom initially she had NO sexual chemistry with)...but she now claims she's found her soulmate, & sex is great. If your not sure, why not just tell him the truth (not the sex thing) that you want to take things slow and need some time to do soul searching. Tell him your going out of town for 2 weeks or something...& see how you feel towards him over the next few weeks, instead of trying so hard to "train," him.

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posted January 22, 2010 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agent

I'm not sure how that works out a few years down the track if they're dreading having sex with their partner, especially if it means that much to the person personally. Some people need sex more than others. I don't believe that sex fizzles out. If the connection is there, it's there. If it isn't, it isn't.

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posted January 22, 2010 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PeaceAngel,
[I don't believe that sex fizzles out]

I kind of agree with you on that. My ex and I despite things going super bad...the attraction never died. At the same time it was just blinding & therefore binding for the wrong reasons. Take out the sex, the relationship would've crapped out immediately.

I said fizzling out as in...well it is a fact that most couples who've been married for a long time have a declining sex life for whatever reason. This one DIR I know, he's 50 and has a hot 20yr old gf. They actually have Mars-Venus cj exact, Venus trine Mars together. Sexual chemistry was great obviously...but he admitted to me, no matter how great the sex, it still gets boring eventually. Also his very young gf gave him no mental stimulation. So then, he tried to bark up my tree, but yet, wasnt going to breakup with his gf.

Belg, but like I said before, BOTH sides of the fence (sex or not) is just as valid...it just depends which side YOU feel the need to be on.

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posted January 22, 2010 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Belgz - nice to meet you.

I was with my husband for 11 years. We were amazing friends, amazing mental compatability, sex...eh. I married him nonetheless because I said friendship is more important than sex - because passion is going to fizzle anyway.

Cut to six years later and we're separated now. Unfortunately a mental connection only didn't give me that primal connection that we needed to sustain a relationship. It will always be a friendship, and a great one at that, but I do now believe that in a love relationship sex is really a physical demonstration of that and a necessary binder.

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posted January 22, 2010 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
at certain degrees

Venus in Virgo could hit some significant nodes
of objects other than the Moon


Venus in Virgo

could trine/sextile the heliocentric Eris Nodes that were between 5 and 6 degrees Taurus for the last century

could sextile/trine the heliocentric Jupiter Nodes 10 and 11 degrees Cancer/Capricorn for the last century

could square the heliocentric Uranus Nodes that were located between 13 and 14 degrees Gemini/Sagittarius for the last century

could square the heliocentric Venus Nodes that were located between 16 and 17 degrees Gemini/Sagittarius for the last century

could sextile/trine the heliocentric Mercury Nodes that were between 18 and 19 degrees Taurus/Scorpio for the last century

could sextile/trine the heliocentric Pluto Nodes that were between 19 and 20 degrees Cancer/Capricorn for the last century

could sextile/trine the heliocentric Mars Nodes that were between 19 and 20 degrees Taurus/Scorpio for the last century

could square the heliocentric Orcus Nodes that were between 27 and 28 degrees Gemini/Sagittarius for the last century


it depends on the dates though

geocentric nodes have quite a difference
the nodes of the inner planets return to their positions yearly. That's not the case with the nodes of Jupiter and objects beyond Jupiter. The north and south nodes of geocentric objects aren't exactly opposite each other like the heliocentric nodes are. The more outer the object, the closer the north and south nodes get to oppose each other.

The geocentric nodes of Jupiter and objects beyond are collective too, but not as collective as the heliocentric nodes of all objects.


a perfect example
is my maternal Uncle Dino

born on October 24, 1959
Woodland,California
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Venus in 15'22 Virgo
square geocentric North Uranus Node in 15'53 Gemini
square heliocentric Venus Nodes in 16'19 Gemini/Sagittarius

he also has

Geocentric South Venus Node in 19'51 Scorpio
square Uranus in 20'33 Leo

so he has Venus square Uranus double whammy through geocentric nodal aspects


The Geocentric North and South Venus Nodes are also like Venus

The Geocentric North and South Mars Nodes are also like Mars


They tend to be ignored in Astrology, and that's why lunar nodes tend to be referred to as nodes even though all objects have nodes. Nodes are just the intersection of the orbital path of 2 objects.


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posted January 22, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to cast my YAY! support for the "Taurus Men Leave Big Bedroom Shoes To Fill" Group.

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posted January 22, 2010 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in regards to so much emphasis on sex in a relationship.

I'd be uneasy being with a woman who strongly emphasizes the importance of sex in a relationship. My own less than average testosterone levels,high estrogen levels leaves me to have less of a sex drive than the average male. Therefore,it's easy for me to be celibate. Also the coordination/sensory integration issues of my Dyspraxia can make sexual intercourse and eye contact with others difficult.


also what if something happens to me,and I ended up getting paralyzed? What if my future wife does?

Christopher Reeve had his wife,Dana to stick by him through sickness and in health till death do them part after he was paralyzed from the neck down.

Dana Reeve had:
Venus in Aries
conjunct Sedna in Aries
conjunct Geocentric North Mars Node in Aries
trine Geocentric South Mars Node in Sagittarius
oppose/conjunct the Heliocentric Chiron Nodes in Libra/Aries
sextiles Geocentric North Jupiter Node in Gemini
square Saturn in Capricorn


Venus-Geocentric North Mars Node-Sedna-Heliocentric South Node conjunction trine South Geocentric Mars Node,square Saturn,sextile Geocentric North Jupiter Node could indicate the potential to make sacrifices,be responsible,generous and dealing with wounds in a relationship that make it easy for her to restrict herself from sex, taking solace in a spiritual connection that she has in her partner. Spirituality could help her deal with pain in a relationship. Her own spiritual faith can be healing for her husband on a soul level.

Christopher had

Venus in 27'00 Libra
conjunct Geocentric Chiron Node in 26'04 Libra
oppose Sedna in 24'36 Libra
square Geocentric North Saturn Node in 28'55 Cancer

In Right Ascension:

25'12 Libra
oppose Sedna in 26'37 Libra


so they both have Venus-Sedna aspects....Dana had Venus conjunct Sedna,and Christopher had Venus oppose Sedna.. can indicate an emphasis on compassion,higher consciousness/awareness and evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences when it comes to love,relationships

they both have Venus-Chiron Node aspects....Dana had Venus oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Chiron Nodes,and Christopher had Venus conjunct Geocentric North Chiron Node....can indicate emphasis on healing,wounds when it comes to love,relationships

they both have a Venus-Saturn connection.....Dana's Venus square Saturn and Christopher's Venus square geo North Saturn Node......indicate emphasis on limitations,discipline involving love,relationships

Christoper's Venus formed a synastry t-square with Dana's Venus square Saturn
which can indicate shared limitations,discipline in the relationship.

Dana's Ceres oppose Christopher's Sun-Mercury conjunction,and that could indicate Dana nurturing,taking care of Christopher.

I really believe that Ceres is important in a synastry. As a dwarf planet like Pluto,it's no mere asteroid.


It's interesting that Dana died not long after Christopher died.


I definitely believe that a spiritual connection is far more important than a sexual connection.

It looked like Christopher and Dana had that.


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posted January 22, 2010 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Cancer woman with Virgo Venus and Cancer Mars in the sixth house, so maybe I could chip in: sex is very much internalized in my case, the passion, desire you are talking about is very much present, but I am not able to externalize it. Also, I could totally live without sex, just being close to the man I love is enough. Touching is not just physical, it can also be mental, spiritual, you should try making love without touching, there is no fatigue, the desire never runs out, it's like a fire burning without ever consumming itself. Well, maybe that's the eight house Venus speaking.


Does this make me sexually retarded?

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I think I want the whole thing or nothing. First,spiritual. Then, emotional and physical.
I am Gemini sun , Cancer Moon and Mars and Scorpio Ascendent.

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Belgique how many times have you had intercourse with this guy now?

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