posted February 06, 2010 11:34 AM         

If Moon square Uranus means bisexual/gay

then the following people are/were bisexual/gay:

Kathy Bates
Candice Bergen
Suzanne DePasse
Martha Graham
Stewart Granger
Lena Horne
Jeremy Irons
James Earl Jones
Evel Knievel
Mark Knopfler
Wolfgang Mozart
Ryan O'Neal
Gregory Peck
Ross Perot
Ian Richardson
Roy Rogers
Alan Shearer
Nina Simone
OJ Simpson
Jimmy Swaggart
Oscar Wilde

all those people were born with Moon square Uranus within the 5 degree maximum orb that I use for major aspects

I don't know if any of them are bisexual/gay or not. I don't know them personally. Anything written and said about them could be rumors.

I don't believe that Moon square Uranus means gay/bi. It could just be an aspect of novelty-seeking like in the DRD4 7R gene. It could mean feeling the need to have independence. The emotional needs,security in conflict with independence,unconventional as well as emotional instability,unpredictable mood swings

btw some people believe in souls,reincarnation,pastlives

Some people believe that the soul has no sex just like they believe that it has no race,ethnicity,etc. Some people believe that souls can incarnate as both sexes in the reincarnation cycle. Some people believe that homosexual couples could have been heterosexual couples in pastlives. Some people believe that one of the homosexual couples could have been the other gender in pastlives. Some people just don't identify with form. So, terms like homosexual,heterosexual,bisexual are irrelevant to them. They are attracted to person because of their soul essence and not because of their sex.
Sexual preference can be just a preference like the preference of a certain race,ethnicity,etc. None of this pertains to what the soul is.

so there is no telling what aspects could indicate certain type of sexuality. It's possible people that are more attuned to their souls,belief in reincarnation,and don't identify with form can be attracted to both sexes due to having pastlives as both male and female.

also the same aspects that might indicate homosexuality/bisexuality could also be the same aspects that indicate sex hormonal divergence like males with high estrogen levels and females with high testosterone levels. Klinefelter Syndrome and Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome are certain atypical gender syndromes that blur the lines of gender.

I also don't believe in cause and effect in Astrology,and so I don't believe a planetary placement,aspect makes a person anything.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 06, 2010 12:57 PM         

Still, I think the Moon SQ Uranus = gay/bi is a load of rubbish. It's quite easy to disprove the theory, isn't it? Besides which I tend to agree with Raymond that an aspect doesn't make anyone anything.

posted February 06, 2010 12:59 PM         

Quote Seeing Stars 7.21

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usually it comes through the moon affliction or venus afflictions.. moon square uranus sun venus conjunction oppostion neptune..

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posted February 06, 2010 01:21 PM         

Being a pluto/neptune/mars ruled person, Im very sexual under the surface..in my interpersonal dealings with ppl and the world, i dont highlight these qualities cos i'm extremely private and discreet, lol my closest friends dont even know..I bring forth my spirituality, intelligence, warmth and kindness and dress in a manner that isn't provocative in the slightest. In my normal life, you'd see a girly tomboy..

On the other hand, when it comes to my sexuality, its dynamic and fluid. Like Glaucus mentioned, I see straight through to the soul of the human being and he's absolutely right when he says there they have no ethnicity, no gender, no sexual preference, no past and no future..just the present moment and its the same go with my attraction to lovers.

I wouldn't know how to label myself because i dont believe in using definitive, absolute labels. I guess by society's standards I would be bisexual but when ppl ask me what my sexual preference is, i tell them that I'm about as straight as a bent arrow. Another example is one of my best friends, she's full lesbian-gay but in the past she has hooked up with a guy once in a state of drunken confusion and revenge..does that make her bisexual? No, it doesn't just like if you have a one-off 3some with your partner doesn't make you bisexual.

I dont know, I'm pretty sexually confident and dont have many hang ups. I have the attitude of a male, being raised by them and having no female role models in my life besides my mum, who married my dad when she was 17 and my grandmothers...WELLLLLL!!!!!!

There's the Moon-Uranus rebellion there, I rebelled against my culture, my society and the expectation of women and their sexuality in my society..hehe

So i guess thats the positive version of that aspect

posted February 06, 2010 01:25 PM         

I may have my Moon sextilling Uranus but...

My Venus squares Jupiter and opposes Saturn..but it Trines my MC

posted February 06, 2010 04:48 PM         

I know 2 guys with Moon square Uranus and they are openly bi-curious.

I have Venus square Uranus and I wouldn't mind hooking up with a chick (but I'm not into dating them)... I have once.

posted February 06, 2010 05:10 PM         

90 degrees
+13 degrees
= 103 degrees

that's a biseptile
7th harmonic aspect
Robert Hand says its a Uranian-Neptune influence

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 06, 2010 06:31 PM         

Astrology truly is an enigma
what one aspect gives, another can take away (or modify).
This is why the whole Natal must be taken into consideration.

People like that ruin lives, and unfairly stigmatize people.
Would you really want to offend someone by labeling them?

I have a tight Moon/Uranus square and I'm not Gay or Bi-sexual.
I wouldn't be offended if you asked or even thought I was, but if you insist that I am based on that one aspect we're going to have a problem.
(not because you think I'm Gay but because you're misrepresenting Astrology)

I'm not mad at you Adam,
this is a good question but I am a little ticked off that someone who claims to understand Astrology would say that.
THAT is what gives Astrologers a bad name, and it links us with words like pseudo.

posted February 06, 2010 06:35 PM         

But in a society, where homosexuality is within the norm, it would not indicate homosexuality, cause Uranus likes to be different from the norm, and if homosexuality IS the norm, it would not be Uranian anymore.

posted February 06, 2010 06:52 PM         

But in a society, where homosexuality is within the norm, it would not indicate homosexuality, cause Uranus likes to be different from the norm, and if homosexuality IS the norm, it would not be Uranian anymore."

The same could be said for interracial relationships, especially between blacks and whites

OJ Simpson has been in numerous interracial relationships including a marriage that resulted in 2 children,and he has Moon square Uranus

My mother has Moon trine Venus-Uranus. She also has Moon contraparallel Uranus,and so she has Moon-Uranus bilevel. She also has Venus parallel Uranus,and so she has Venus-Uranus occultation. She has been in numerous interracial relationships including my father.

my maternal Uncle Eddie has Moon oppose Uranus, and he has been in some interracial relationships including 2 children with a former Filipino wife

my maternal Aunt Dede has Moon square Uranus,and she has been in interracial relationships including with women. She has been with both men and women. She's the most nontraditional out of all my maternal grandfather's children. She's even a Buddhist.

also there are other objects that are nonconformists too

Neptune too....it orbits beyond Uranus , and is the last planet in our solar system, it dissolves the boundaries

the transneptunians objects that include Pluto
the plutinos (like Pluto,the largest),scattered disk objects(like Eris,the largest),and detached objects (Sedna,the largest) have highly eccentric orbits but the cubewanos (like Makemake,the largest) have orbits of low eccentricity like the planets of our solar system.

the centaurs that include Chiron are nonconformist objects with their highly eccentric orbits, but centaurs named after mythological females like Chariklo have orbits that are less eccentric than centaurs named after mythological males like Chiron

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 06, 2010 07:11 PM         

I don't believe any aspect contributes anything. I believe Astrology works because of synchronicity,and so my belief that a person's astrological placements,aspects are a meaningful parallel to personality traits.

Moon-Uranus in a man's chart could just mean experiencing important women in his wife as Uranian types, especially mother and wife. He could be attracted to Uranian types of women.

I don't have a Moon-Uranus major aspect myself, but I have Moon-Uranus 137'30 golden aspect with 22 minutes of arc. Theodor Landscheidt devised aspects based on golden section,and no more than 1 degree orb is used for them. I did experience my mother as a uranian type,and she has many uranian aspects including especially in the declinations. I have been very attracted to and involved with Uranian types including women with Sun-Uranus aspects. I have history of interracial dating,relationships influenced by own interracial family background.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 06, 2010 08:09 PM         

quote:

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this is a good question but I am a little ticked off that someone who claims to understand Astrology would say that.
THAT is what gives Astrologers a bad name, and it links us with words like pseudo.

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posted February 07, 2010 04:57 PM         

quote:

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If Moon square Uranus means bisexual/gay

then the following people are/were bisexual/gay:

Kathy Bates
Candice Bergen
Suzanne DePasse
Martha Graham
Stewart Granger
Lena Horne
Jeremy Irons
James Earl Jones
Evel Knievel
Mark Knopfler
Wolfgang Mozart
Ryan O'Neal
Gregory Peck
Ross Perot
Ian Richardson
Roy Rogers
Alan Shearer
Nina Simone
OJ Simpson
Jimmy Swaggart
Oscar Wilde

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He actually qualifies for that stereotype. I know, not the point...I just felt like pointing out irony. LULZ

posted February 07, 2010 05:13 PM         

Very cool article

posted February 07, 2010 05:21 PM         

for instance, he has Mars square Eris with 21 minutes of arc, which can indicate a metaphysically oriented,divergent,controversial,discordant passions. Mars rules his 8th house. In Right Ascension ,his Mars trine Sedna with 1 degree orb. That could indicate actions that are divergent too. Both Eris and Sedna are transneptunians that orbit beyond Pluto,and so they are metaphysically,divergent energies. They have highly eccentric orbits,and so they are highly nonconformist...especially with these objects orbiting off the ecliptic.

He has Sun square true Black Moon Lilith with 1'02 orb, and that could indicate a nonconformist type, especially with the eccentric movement of true Black Moon aka osculating lunar apogee. Some astrologers believe that Black Moon Lilith has a sexual nature about it.

another thing his Venus in 7'57 Libra
happens to conjunct his Geocentric North Quaoar Node in 7'07 Libra. That's a collective Quaoar energy. Quaoar is one of the transneptunian dwarf planets. Therefore, that could fit with an otherworldly,divergent love nature. With Quaoar associated with creativity,it could also fit with highly creative nature.

even his Venus oppose Neptune/Pluto midpoint with 17 minutes of arc could indicate a metaphysically oriented,transcendant,intense,nonconformist nature.

none of those aspects are necessarily having to do with gay/bisexual just like Moon square Uranus doesn't necessarily have anything to do with gay/bisexual.

btw...I don't believe in just looking at afflicted planets in regards to being gay/bisexual. Homosexuality and Bisexuality aren't disorders. Therefore,I don't think it makes any sense to look for hard aspects. The same thing for sex hormonal divergence.

btw

I used Solar Fire program to find people with Moon square Uranus with 5 degree orb.

I like that feature where you can find people with a certain aspect,placement. It's great for doing research.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 07, 2010 07:14 PM         

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yeah, but Oscar Wilde is just 1 person though
there could be other things that factor

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posted February 07, 2010 07:22 PM         

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 07, 2010 09:47 PM         

Why is it such a big deal for people? I see some people here claiming "No, No, No"! like it's the end of the world or something.

posted February 07, 2010 11:08 PM         

exactly

that's the point that I tried to make.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"