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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So lets focus on relationship/love soul mates then

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DD
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posted March 03, 2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even with relationship soulmates there will be different nuances...


is it some kind of unconditional, platonic love?
Nurturing family love?
Romantic?
Mainly sexual?

We can have relationships for many different reason.

I suspect that most people who write on here, have a romantic-erotic-sexual-caring ideal in mind t hough

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Lara
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posted March 03, 2010 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and they are all karmic

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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do we find out if we broke someones heart in a past life?

Venus conjunct SN?
I read that aspect means lustful longing for the other all the rest of their lives because of an unexpected separation right at the beginning of falling in love.

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posted March 03, 2010 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The lady that gave me an angel reading has her Venus-Uranus opposition on my Lunar Nodal axis, and there is no romantic attraction whatsoever. She is old enough to be my mother too. She is only a fear years younger than her.


Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted March 03, 2010 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

I guess it will be difficult to encounter a relationship with really no karma at all. That must be very exceptional. Unconditional.

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Lara
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posted March 03, 2010 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twin Flame relationships have no karma

Agree or not?

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posted March 03, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, do you have any experience with Neptune conjunctions to any of the major planets?
With Neptune, how does one tell illusion from reality?

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posted March 03, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"If there's an ultimate soulmate aspect, I'd vote for the AC/DC conjunction or MC/IC conjunction - the two types of axis that either indicates the partner or a soul tie.
Besides, these two are most personal points in a natal chart.:

Comica,

I had a 16 minute Ascendant-Ascendant opposition and 6 minute Ascendant-Ascendant contraparallel with my exgf whose Venus trine my Ascendant with 3 minutes of arc (Her Venus sextile Ascendant linked to my Ascendant), and it was a very strong connection

Her very strong attachment to her mother who has issues with men (because my exgf's father screwed her over) was a big problem. Our relationship ended because of it. She couldn't stand up to her mother and defend our relationship. Fear got in the way of love. She just didn't love me enough to fight for me.


Another was that she didn't want to have children nor was into helping people. She lacked a fondness for children. I really felt that she didn't have much nurturing instinct.

I feel that the woman that I am meant to be with will be somebody who is fond of children and will assist me in my neurodiversity advocacy. I believe that she will be working with special education needs children.

Last year in November,
When I drew my Archangel Cards the first time
they were the first cards that I used too.

I randomly picked out 3 cards after shuffling from the deck to symbolize main themes of my life.

First card:
Indigo and Crystal Children
Archangel Metatron
You have a bond with children. In particular, you can help children who are sensitive.

Second card:
Leadership
Archangel Gabriel
It is time for you to assume your leadership power and position and lovingly guide others.


Third card:
Hello from Heaven
Archangel Azrael
Your loved ones in Heaven are doing fine. Let go of worries, and feel their loving blessings.


Then later on that day. I consulted with those cards, asking what was the purpose of my relationship with her,why did she break up


I shuffled the cards.

I ended up randomly picking out the same cards but in reverse order!


I figured that it was about her not sharing my path and going our separate ways.

The Indigo,Crystal Children card fits with helping sensitive children with developmental neurological/learning differences

The Leadership card fits with me forming the nonprofit neurodiversity organization and becoming executive director of it

Hello from Heaven might be just figurative....like she's fine. I shouldn't worry about her and I should let go.

well

this morning I had a very intimate dream about her. I haven't had a dream about her in a long time. So I am going WTF???

I checked the transits right after I woke up to see if transiting Moon was aspecting one of our synastry aspects

Transiting Moon in 24'51 Libra
trining my Mars in 25'54 Aquarius
opposing her Mars in 25'28 Aries


also

Transiting Sun in 13'07 Pisces
oppose/conjunct my Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
conjunct/oppose her Ascendant/Descendant in 13'43 Pisces/Virgo
oppose my Ascendant in

Transiting Jupiter in 10'31 Pisces
square my Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius
square her Jupiter in 10'54 Sagittarius R


Raymond


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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted March 03, 2010 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

partly agree.

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posted March 03, 2010 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do think the Vertex is a soul mate object. It means fate and I have it with someone who I think is the love of my life

I have a DW of Vertex/ASC in synastry.


I have that with someone who's somewhat of an ex of mine and we have a complicated stupid relationship and right now it's nothing. We don't want to be involved in each others lives but frankly, because of our social situation, it's impossible to not be. Our relationship I guess is fated, but it's not love. Vertex ties don't mean that it's going to last forever.

We also have MC/IC conjunction (ties into the Vertex/ASC dw anyway because the MC plays a role in where your vertex is).

I'm not refuting that the Vertex doesn't indicate soul mate relationships, but it doesn't mean LOVERS FOREVER. In fact, this dude and I were only romantic for a total of 5 months (on/off), and it didn't stop either of us from not seeing other people. We were never exclusive. We were more f*ck-buddies than anything else.

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posted March 03, 2010 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tropical Vertex is not a soulmate object
It's the destiny gate that you're reluctant to face

But Anti-Vertex CAN be a POTENTIAL soulmate object

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posted March 03, 2010 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Twin Flame relationships have no karma

Agree or not?"

Don't agree at all
There's NO no-karma relationship on this EARTH
And there're good karmas and bad ones

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posted March 03, 2010 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

ummmm

an aspect to the Vertex is also an aspect to the AntiVertex

They are an axis like Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli, East Point/West Point, and lunar nodes,heliocentric nodes, lunar apogee/perigree

Vertex is known as an unconscious descendant
and the AntiVertex as an auxilliary ascendant like the East Point.

Maritha Pottenger is a regular user of the AntiVertex and East Point. I have her booklet on those points.

a conjunction to the AntiVertex is an opposition to the Vertex and vice versa

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
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karena
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posted March 03, 2010 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^I forgot to mention I only consider conjunction to Anti-Vertex
(And yes that would mean opposition to Vertex)

What I meant is conjunction to tropical Vertex is not a soulmate-aspect

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posted March 03, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

shrugs

it's still an opposition to the vertex.

just like a conjunction to the ascendant is an opposition to the descendant

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Lara
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posted March 03, 2010 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries Karena.

I have no karma with my twin flame and one can 'feel' the lack of karma.

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posted March 03, 2010 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, post your chart and let me see if you have no karma at all

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Lara
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posted March 03, 2010 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't anymore - no. I've worked through the lot

I'd love to oblige but i'm trying to rectify my chart at the moment to ascertain my correct AC so i don't wanna put up a misleading chart (i've posted enough of those!!!).

If it's aspects, i can list them for you but i assure you, i've worked through my karma in this lifetime. I fast-tracked

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posted March 04, 2010 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"i've worked through my karma in this lifetime"

It's wonderful if it's true

"To add my thoughts here:
its the composite conjunction of sun-moon."

Agree.

Add another one: composite venus-valentine-amor
conjunction

No Valentine/Amor no true soulmate

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posted March 04, 2010 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara you go on about your twin flame ALOT
how does one know if that guy is their twin flame? Instead of a soulmate?
I mean I saw your synastry chart with him ... it wasn't anything too amazing IMHO

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posted March 04, 2010 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know beyond any doubt. I guess maybe I have met enough soul mates to know the difference and maybe when you meet your flame you feel like you never did before in your life.!

Perfect synastry charts mean nothing! Seriously! Sun/moon and Venus/mars conjuncts don't say "twin soul".

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posted March 04, 2010 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus,
what kind of aspects would you look at to the anti-vertex in synastry and with which planets/asteroids?

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posted March 04, 2010 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Perfect synastry charts mean nothing!"
Not entirely true. Of course synastry means something.
BUT what does "perfect" mean anyway?

" Seriously! Sun/moon and Venus/mars conjuncts don't say "twin soul"."
Agreed.

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posted March 04, 2010 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

ekf,

I don't know.

it's all relative like all the astrological systems on the planet.


Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
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