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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the strongest indicator(s) is/are:

-Venus/Chiron; with multiple configurations
-Very strong aspects to Saturn by the others personal planets
-The Ruler of the 1st or 7th House conjunct the others Nodal Axis


But... what is the ultimate aspect?

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Diana
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posted March 03, 2010 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid swindle conjunct venus,


I disagree with a lot of the one's you said because they're generational in aspect.

It's really hard to come up with a list, but the personal planets are the most imortant, imo, since they are so, well...personal.


Sun/moon/venus/mars all in tight aspect.


Mercury should be aspected nicely so there is a common ground and understanding.

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posted March 03, 2010 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Diana

I believe that aspects to the Midheaven tend to be overlooked by many astrologers.

Cosmobiologists and Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers put the most emphasis on the Midheaven. They view as the individual self, "The I", the minute. It's the most personal,time-sensitive point. They look at aspects to Midheaven when rectifying charts.
They view the Ascendant as the relationships,one's environment, the location

aspects between the Midheavens can be very significant. aspects between the Midheaven and Ascendant can be very significant too.
aspects between the Ascendants can be very significant. the conjunctions,oppositions

aspects between the Moon and Midheaven can be very significant too. aspects between the Sun and Midheaven too.


it really depends on the type of soul mate connection which can between relatives, friends, student/teacher.


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posted March 03, 2010 02:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex of 10 years...

North node cnj my chart ruler

My north node trine his 1st, 7th and 5th rulers.

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posted March 03, 2010 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh boy- Soul mates come in happy pretty packages
and others,
are in ones that will tear your heart out.

What is an Ultimate Soul Mate anyway?

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posted March 03, 2010 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t believe in ONE ultimate soulmate aspect.

But I believe that the most individual aspects indicate unique connections like for instance soulmates. That means we have to mainly look at ASC/DESC, MC/IC and Moon, as they are the fastest moving ones. Maybe Vertex also plays a role.


I guess some exact conjunctions to these objects would point to a connection that will have a deep impact on a person.

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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ultimate soul mate is the love of your life to me.

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belgz
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posted March 03, 2010 02:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fall in love with so many people I don't know which one the love of my life is.. :/

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posted March 03, 2010 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no, Glaucus, I shouldn't have read this.

I'm really confused at the moment. Last week I unintentionally started getting affectionate with a close friend of mine who is the opposite sex. I really confused him because he doesn't like the idea of friends with benefits, which seems to be my only concept of relationships, Anyways he just wants to be friends and my natal Moon is exactly conjunct his MC. Also his Jupiter is conjunct my Descendant and our natal Venus' are conjunct.

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Lara
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posted March 03, 2010 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean a twin flame? That would be the ultimate soul mate.

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posted March 03, 2010 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ultimate aspect certainly is:

venus/mars MP exact conj Valentine !!

So far I've only seen ONE couple having that aspect, let alone double whammy

And, I have these aspects with my past lifeline soulmate:

DSC conj & parallel Valentine (3)
dr ASC conj & parallel Valentine (0)
dr Vertex conj & parallel Venus (0)
Anti-Vertex conj & parallel Sun(1)

I also think they're ultimate aspects

Also very good to have Venus tightly trine Valentine DW / Venus tightly trine Amor DW



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Lara
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posted March 03, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm
I have to disagree... vertex is not a soul-mate aspect.

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posted March 03, 2010 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree vertex is not a soulmate object
But I think anti-vertex can be
And I don't know about vertex /anti-vertex in Draconic

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posted March 03, 2010 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and i think ALL soul mate aspects will be exact 0'.

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posted March 03, 2010 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I forgot to mention that a very wonderful soulmate couple I know of have psyche tightly conj & parallel psyche in synastry

And I have solstice psyche exact conj & parallel psyche with my past lifetime soulmate

I think soulmate aspect is better combined with parallel links otherwise it might still be just a coincidence

And if there is declination link the orb can be extended a bit because parallel or contraparallel would reinforce the effect of the aspect

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posted March 03, 2010 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi raspberri,

Are you still interested?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203398.html


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posted March 03, 2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still say there is not ONE single soulmate-aspect.

I agree with Lara on zero degree aspects.

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posted March 03, 2010 09:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add my thoughts here:
its the composite conjunction of sun-moon.

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posted March 03, 2010 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, MC/IC conjunctions, ASC/DSC conjunctions... Su=Su/Mo, Sun & Moon conjunctions, Eros & Psyche conjunctions.. the list goes on and on. There's not one aspect.

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-Venus/Chiron; with multiple configurations
-Very strong aspects to Saturn by the others personal planets

Disagree. Natally I have Venus square Chiron and Venus square Saturn. So that means that I have a Venus/Chiron & Venus/Saturn aspect with everyone my age.

And that's also true for chart ruler conjunct Node in some cases. My Mercury is in Aquarius and everyone a year younger than me has NN in Aquarius.

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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 03, 2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there's an ultimate soulmate aspect, I'd vote for the AC/DC conjunction or MC/IC conjunction - the two types of axis that either indicates the partner or a soul tie.
Besides, these two are most personal points in a natal chart.

But I agree with everyone who said that there's no single ultimate soulmate aspect.

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posted March 03, 2010 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn and Chiron aspects look more karmic to me t han anything else, including the Venus-Chiron aspect, no matter what the Magi say.

Vertex is fated, yes, but as far as I have seen in synastry charts, it points more to a fated "moment" that can turn around your life (including meeting someone), but it does not mean there will be a lasting relationship.
Of course sometimes a fated encounter can lead to a lasting connection, too. But it is not a guarantee.

Ruler of aSC or DESC or aSC itself conjunct the nodal axis would imply that two people can walk at least a little part of the soul-journey together. I like that one.

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posted March 03, 2010 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, that's why I think Saturn aspects are needed to personal planets for the Vertex connection to last.

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posted March 03, 2010 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, there are many types of soulmates, as well as many ways to be soulmates, so that it's logical that there are many different kind of soulmate aspects.

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