posted September 13, 2010 02:17 PM            

I still think there is only one soul mate/twin flame whatever you want to call it, and I do think it's karmic because as long as we are on this earth we experience karma. So our twin flame/soul mate must have a karmic obligation to us.

Karma doesn't have to be bad. I know I have met that one person. He is my soul mate. And we met because of karma, because our natal charts were activated.

posted September 13, 2010 02:24 PM            

Believe me I have tried to move on, but I cant. We both cant.

I was in another relationship and we broke up because I couldn't give my heart to him and I broke his heart.

But I had to do it, because I can't live without the other person. It's impossible. And no matter what happens between us, we still feel the same about each other. He knows me and I know him. He knows my flaws and I know his. But at the end of the day the only thing we have is love. A very deep love.

posted September 13, 2010 02:25 PM            

their planets,angle,points being aspected simultaneously

Raymond

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted September 13, 2010 02:30 PM            

both exist in a physical existence, surely

posted September 13, 2010 02:33 PM            

Rasperri,

I leave the boxing ring to you and Lara.

Discuss it out, girls, though I have the sneaking suspicion, that you might mean the same or a similiar thing, just using different words.

For example: To me obligation is something that is "forced upon me against my will", some kind of duty I have to fulfill (often with grinding teeth).
Twinsoul love is nothing of that kind to me.

posted September 13, 2010 02:34 PM            

Um, so you don't believe that things recycle themselves? Photosynthesis?
Or that the Moon affects our atmosphere in a positive way? That the Sun gives us warmth and the ability to eat?

Strange.

posted September 13, 2010 02:42 PM            

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some kind of duty I have to fulfill (often with grinding teeth).

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LOL @ grinding teeth. I can so relate to that!

DD you and l have beaten the twin flame/soul thing to almost death on here and we both came to the same conclusion - mainly, that it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of happiness and love

Raspberri,

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All of that is karma in one way or another.

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posted September 13, 2010 02:46 PM            

I guess the love of your life. And to me that is a soul mate/ twin soul... whatever...

posted September 13, 2010 02:49 PM            

Love is only a vibe. It's not something you can share. It's similar to a thought. It needs a vehicle to be seen and felt.

posted September 13, 2010 04:45 PM            

Could be obsession, too.

Not saying that it is in your case. But I`ve seen it happen quite a few times, and everytime they SWORE the other person was the love of their lives. In some cases it led to stalking the other person, with the justification of: ´(S)he is the ONE.

On the other hand why would anyone try stop loving someone?
I can understand that sometimes you have to stop having expectations of any kind (for a relationship mostly) but stopping loving someone?

Lara,

yes, we definitely talked it through and through and through.

posted September 13, 2010 04:57 PM            

But what I don't understand is how I even tried to move on by finding a new boyfriend who was so good to me and I did fall in love with him, but I couldn't allow myself to completely give up on the main one.

That is what I find to be so strange. It's like I felt him with me all the time. Sort of like it was meant to be that he was something I wasn't meant to let go of.

I wouldn't say I had an expectation from him, but that it was my reality that was making me not forget about him. To be honest, I don't know what that expectation was or is, but now that I feel more connected I do think that we will end up having a baby together.

posted September 13, 2010 05:08 PM            

I could list more DD that are more profound for instance I dreamed of him 3 months before I met him. In my dream he grabbed my hand and said welcome to Shambalah...I had to look that up at the time...but it makes sense now, because I have a TIbetan lifeline.
So I knew who he was before I even met him.
That was the beginning of it all at the first of this year.

I have currently met and have in my life at least 7 from my soulgroup. We all know it and we have all been working hard to balance each other and begin the work of creation through manifestation.
Meeting them one by one...has led up to an ultimate soulmate, her and I are balance partners if there ever was, our synastry shows that. We both helped each other tremendously and still do, with balance being the topic...and being soul centered. We keep each other there.
In a way actually we have helped each other get to a place where neither she nor I were searching any longer for out twin....life was so amazing neither of us needed it...our happiness and love are eternal and we learned that through each other....the Ouroboros completed itself from within.
Right after meeting her and growing tremedously spiritually and everyother way.........I met him and trust me I didnt WANT to meet him...I ran from him for a good 3 months...sticking my head in the sand and saying over and over....its not what I think it is...its not what I think it is....

So its not with pride that I say I have met my Twin....it is with acceptance...there is a duty attached to this...and that is where Saturn has come into play. Not for Karma....but for a solid foundation of stability and a sense of duty to one another and this Earth and her sentinel beings

I have been in many relationships as well Lara, and many of us along with yourself are on the fast track with Karma.
So I know what its like to be in love...I have learned most of my life lessons through intimate relationships my 7th house Chart Ruler Mercury and Venus in Pisces in my 7th tells you that.

DD, here is something else about my twin and I, a guy named Steve Gunn who I learned Energy mapping and techniques from and who is basically the man who walked me through ego death for which there will always be a student/teacher connection...... swore out that a relationship I was in at the time was my twinflame...at some point he became a runner, and that was very intense Energetically as it was as transformation process and a tough way to finally learn self love for me....but now looking back was just in place to raise my Kundalini which happened after I finally got over him and I was able to begin working on my DNA and lifting the veil of my 3rd eye.
Whats interesting is that Steve thought he was my twin though...he was convinced of it...he said the Energy felt right...and would ask me every time we spoke how he was...and I kept saying to myself...he is not the one.
I just knew it.
Ok so he had a Capricorn Sun, Pisces Moon, and Taurus ascendant...an absolute beautiful but torchered man.

My twin flame ....get this has Pisces Sun, Taurus Moon, and Capricorn Ascendant....and both have a personal planet in Aquarius
The first one had his Angel conjunct my Sun...but the real one has Spirit conjunct it.

And DD...
This is the sealing factor for me. You see I have been in relationships, some very serious. I have seen many men treat me many different ways.
But I have never met a man that is as intent on seeing me be all that I can be as he is .
There is just no Karma between us, I cant explain it. But there is only this feeling of peace and treating each other with love and respect, it feels like coming home for both of us....
Honoring each others individuality.
Our composite chart has Moon Con Mer and Sun conjunct Venus, and Sun Moon and Mercury in Pisces.

I have peeled back many more layers sincee meeting him...and both of us have learned so much from each other and have grown at an extremely fast rate spiritually.
In fact about a month ago I had a another raise in my Kundalini.
In my visualizations he always comes and stands back to back with me so that our Chakras are connected and I am able to use his Energy to shield us both.
Since meeting me he dreams of me all the time. He says he has never dreamed of anyone like this before, nor has he ever felt a connection like this ...he says im hypnotizing to him...but I say the same about him...soo. lol

I cant explain it DD...but have you ever met someone, who says and does the right thing not because they are trying to but because it is who they are?
He is amazing to me...just being who he is...there is nothing I would change about him...even if I could.
Its the ultimate connection for me...bestfriends and lovers....it gets no better.
Not to mention he is drop dead gorgeous and has 2 percent body fat...yeah.... And a English accent to die and big beautiful blue eyes that are to die for!....
Have you ever had someone who finds a way to compliment you everyday? He gives me a compliment in some way everyday and has for the past 8 months.

He told me just the other day that he was made to love me.

Alot people have that yes...but I am a very spiritually advanced human...and my Soul personality is very old.
I see and work with Energies that most people have to clue about. Love is not something I need any longer, love is what I am. I renew myself from day to day with it.

And to be able to talk to someone about that, and have them understand you. Even work with you on a Metaphysical level willilingly....now that is where our connection becomes other worldly. Twinflames came here because they have work to do.

Helping people see and unlock there truest potential is ours. Nothing brings either of us more happiness than watching our soulgroup advance spiritually and find there own inner happiness..

He is as Psycho Intergrative Therapist...and me as an Energy Practioner. He chops down the tree and I fly above it....

I fly in the sky and he stays on the ground...but every now and then we meet to kiss and it feels like two worlds collide...and in a way I guess they do.

posted September 13, 2010 05:14 PM            

What I want to say is, that even though these experiences may accompany the coming of a Twin soul, these experiences are not enough to conclude someone is our Twin soul.
We have to feel it.
But then we might feel, what we WANT to feel.

But even with that in mind, you can only feel if someone is your twinsoul, not deduce it with logic or even collecting of certain "signs".

posted September 13, 2010 05:20 PM            

I know that I am a very romantic,idealistic person....and even to much so that I can set myself for a world of hurt and disillusionment, and so I try to be careful and cautious.

I am really into love stories and happily ever after. I was reading Fairy Tales all the time as a kid that my mom wanted me to check out other books.

Love can be most inspiring to the point of being a poet,an artist,and even just being the best that you can be. I thought that I had it, but I lost it. I wondered if I ever had it. Was it all an illusion even though there were numerous mutual "I love you"'s? If it was true love, shouldn't it have lasted. Shouldn't it have survived the challenges even challenges from relatives like one's mother? Many couples got together in spite of what their parents think because they loved each other. Shouldn't that have been the same for Meghann and me if she truly loved me? Loving somebody is more than just telling the person that you love that person. It's also showing them. I'd come to conclusion that she never loved me like I loved her.

but then again, maybe it's just not so cut and dry

I know that I deserve much better than what I was getting. I hope that this time,I found that special woman.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted September 13, 2010 05:33 PM            

My having Jupiter in Taurus in the 8th house exactly on his Moon proves that my partners spiritual beliefs are going to be different from mine. He was just born into that, he's actually a Persian Jew, they NEVER marry outside of their people... If they do, they lose all contact with their family etc. They see it as a very big deal.

But like I said my chart reflects that I will be with a person like this. He's that person.