posted April 10, 2010 12:15 PM            

Re: Dr's saying you should be dead. I love that! It makes me feel powerful and stronger than death, like I am living from sheer will. It reaffirms destiny, God, and fate too. I would tell everyone how I was 'supposed' to be dead, but am not, lol.

posted April 10, 2010 09:18 PM            

Really and truly what is the matter?
A mistake was made, period.
I have never known LaSexorcisco to be rude or hateful and I'd kind of like to hear from her first before we vote her off
(sound familiar?)

There is no voting here

For the record, Randall has never banned anyone to my knowledge for one indiscretion.

posted April 10, 2010 11:03 PM            

I don't know...both could be possibilities.

"What number is this asteroid i want to check mine too."

Its minor planet number is 136108. After it was first discovered, its designation number was 2003 EL61.

It's not an asteroid. It's a transneptunian object located in the kuiper belt like Pluto. It's one of 5 dwarf planets (more to be added too) along with Eris,Pluto,Makemake,and Ceres.
It's officially classed as a Plutoid like Eris,Pluto,and Makemake. All transneptunian dwarf planets are classed as Plutoids.
Haumea is the 4th largest of the dwarf planets with with Eris being the largest,Pluto being the 2nd largest,Makemake being the 3rd largest and Ceres being the 5th largest. Sedna,Orcus,and Quaoar are nameds transneptunian objects that meet the criteria for Plutoid, and they are all larger than Ceres. They are dwarf planet,Plutoid candidates. Sedna,Orcus,and Quaoar - largest to smallest.
There are a couple of unnamed transneptunian objects that are larger than Ceres which is over 900 km in diameter. They are already assigned minor planet numbers (numbers are given after orbits are determined) which means that they are ready to be named.

To qualify to be a dwarf planet, it has to have sufficient mass for their self gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that they assume a hydrostatic equilibrium (near spherical shape. Objects that meet that criteria and orbit beyond Neptune would be classed as Plutoids. There are some 70 candidates as for 2008, but it is possible that the number will increase to 2000.
The first Trans-Neptunian object discovered since Pluto that is a solid dwarf planet candidate is (15874) 1996 TL66 at 575 km in diameter.

Asteroids are inner system objects with most located between Mars and Jupiter. That's the main asteroid belt. Ceres is a mainbelt asteroid with it being located between Mars and Jupiter, but it is also a dwarf planet that is over 900 km in diameter. No asteroid comes close to that size. It's the only asteroid that is classed as a dwarf planet because of its size and being in hydrostatic equilibrium. It even has features close to kuiper belt objects like it has some ice. Some astronomers think that Ceres might have traveled from the Kuiper Belt into the inner solar system. In mythology, Ceres/Demeter had links to Pluto/Hades as not only siblings but also share Proserpina/Persephone who was Ceres/Demeter's daughter that Pluto/Hades abducted to be his Queen of the Underworld. Yeah..I know...it was his niece. Incest was a natural thing for the deities. Eris has a Proserpina/Persephone- orbit with orbiting close to Pluto during half of its orbital period and its far from Pluto during the other half of its orbital period. Eris co-discoverer Michael Brown pointed that out,and he actually thought Persephone and Proserpina would be a good name for Eris before it got its name, but those names were already given to main belt asteroids. He also proposed a name that would show more embracing of other cultures besides Greek/Roman, but IAU rejected it. Therefore, Brown came up with Eris because he thought it was a suitable name because its discovery led to heated debate about Pluto's planetary status.

Back to Ceres..It's not a typical asteroid. It's actually a protoplanet aka planetary nucleus which failed to form as a planet. Vesta and Pallas are also protoplanets. Ceres,Vesta,and Pallas are different breed of asteroids.

"But just in a nutshell what does it all mean?"

Haumea is a Hawaiian creation fertility goddess. She was associated with stone.
Haumea stands apart among the transneptunian objects because it appears to be mainly rock. Astronomers determine that chunks of ice was knocked off its body and form into its 2 moons and independently orbiting transneptunian objects. It was like the myth, Haumea with her children born from her body. Therefore, the astronomers chose a name that fit with the astronomical features of an object. That's what they have been doing with transneptunian objects.
Haumea is known to be the major object of a new class of objects call Haumeids. It is thought that another large kuiper belt object crashed into Haumea leading to pieces broken off from Haumea. That's why one of Philip Sedgwick's keywords is "head on collisions"

Like I said before astronomically oriented astrologers take astronomical,orbital characteristics into account when determining astrological influences.

Haumea is very unique for it's the most rapidly spinning object in our solar system. What's amazing is that it has a 4 hour rotation, and the object is large. It looks like a football that has been kicked. Astronomers concluded that is from Haumea being subjected to a collision.

This is what Haumea looks like http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/2003EL61/

I have a prominent Haumea myself.
It's in my 12th house conjunct/oppose my Ascendant/Descendant axis (rising) with 2'10 orb and square my Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with 3 minutes of arc.

Unmoved's Sun conjunct Haumea with 1 minute of arc is the strongest Haumea influence that I have ever seen in a chart.

I definitely want to ask her permission to chat about her Sun-Haumea conjunction with information about her life to astrologers in 10th Planet yahoo group which is a group of astrologers that discuss transneptunians. I am one of the moderators there.

When doing research and investigation of transneptunians and centaurs, astrologers will look at charts of people that have Solar conjunctions to an object within 1 degree to see what the object influence could be.

Conjunction to its North or South Node (geocentric or heliocentric) could also be helpful too.

I'd use smaller orbs for these Plutoids

3 degrees for conjunction,opposition,square,trine
2 degrees for sextile
1 degree for semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile
30 minutes for parallel,contraparallel

for the Plutoid Nodes

1 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine,sextile
This is mainly for heliocentric nodes
the geocentric nodes have north and south nodes that tend to not be in exact opposition to each other like the heliocentric nodes. There are specific times that the heliocentric nodes and geocentric nodes converge though. This was true for my case with the Eris Nodes. Sun in 5'20 Scorpio oppose/conjunct the Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 5'30 Scorpio/Taurus, oppose Geocentric North Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus,oppose Geocentric South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio. I have a very strong connection to Collective Eris energy with being involved in diversity,equality,discord,controversy.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted April 10, 2010 11:06 PM            

I feel you'll get on top of this and be able to control what's going on for you.

posted April 10, 2010 11:12 PM              

I got really mad this morning when I seen it was LOCKED!

and lalalinda do you have some aries placements where you just act on impulse? I'm also sure unmoved can moderate her own thread. Im really upset about all of this now.

Sorry unmoved the last thing you need is to come on here and see everyone argueing. I was trying to avoid it (which I have) but I just had to let it out. Now that I have i can move on with what I was going to say..

About the vegan diet? Do you eat meat? Or protein? I didnt know people get blood transfusions for this sort of stuff and it seems as though many people seem to have this issue. I used to donate blood but then I stopped because I didn't really undertsand why people needed blood. When you don't know you just assume its for someone whos hurt themself and they've lost blood and they need more urgently lol but thats not really common, well not common enough to have hundreds of people go and donate blood.

I'm going to go give blood today in fact im on my way out and I hope after this thread enlightening me and thanks to you writing about it that you get good karma and positive energy in return for all the other people who will benefit from me going and my friends going to help someone here. I wish I could help you too Im normally the one always at the hospital questioning the doctor with all my gemini moon questions and virgo ascendant analysing going on. All I need is the glasses and pen and paper to take down all my notes but luckily I have mercury in cancer and a super memory that never lets anything get past me :P

Hoping you get well very soon xxx

posted April 10, 2010 11:20 PM              

I have it in the 12th house! at 19 degrees virgo. Thats no surprise I have issues getting pregnant. It's sextile my sun and mercury at 16'16 cancer.

6 degrees away from squaring my moon.

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(though i do think many of you spent a little too much energy getting so angry )

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posted April 11, 2010 12:56 AM            

For the last time
let's drop it.

posted April 11, 2010 01:07 AM            

la_sexorcisto
I have nothing against you.