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Unmoved
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posted April 09, 2010 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it Saturn? I really hate Saturn. And it smells like Saturn's handy work. Or, am I losing the fight against the powers that be.

Ok, what am I saying?

I've been feeling unlike myself for some time. I thought it was something passing, maybe stress, but I handle stress like a pro, so it didn't make sense. So, I went to a new doctor who immediately said I was pale. She did tests and it turns out that I'm losing blood and I could have died anytime.

My blood HB levels are at 3, to less than 3. I just found out this morning from a panicked doctor telling me that they are booking me in asap to find out where and why I'm losing blood, while also replenishing the blood I've lost. Again, doctors are shocked that I'm still walking and talking because people die at level 7 at times.

I'm on my phone, so I can't post a chart with transits and progressions. As far as I was concerned, nothing major was going on. Maybe that's because I should've been dead. Anyway, I don't mind death. It would be quite freeing. It's just that I'm wondering why I found out in the nick of time whereas I would've easily slipped off in my sleep and left this god forsaken place behind. I think Saturn is teasing me.

Am I fighting the inevitable here?

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posted April 09, 2010 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH My Goodness, Unmoved.
I am sorry.
I think you will be OK from my gut feelings.
I am not good enough with charts to help there.
I will pray for you now and continue!!

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belgz
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posted April 09, 2010 06:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG just as I thought you have an intercepted 6th house. Have you had any long term health issues in the past?

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Ok your 6th house has ARIES intercepted which is MARS.


Mars is at 25 scorpio which has transit neptune square it right now.. now the thing is that NEPTUNE also rules your 6th house of health. So the house ruler and the intercepted ruler are making a not so great aspect to one another.

So the obvious is right now you do have a health issue and one that was unknown (Neptune)

SO now the question is what is protecting you. Your 12th house is intercepted with libra. The ruler venus is in virgo and TRANSIT PLUTO is trine VENUS. Venus here rules your hospital stay and is the aspect that helped them discover your mystery illness. To make things worse saturn is in your 12th house which may show a long stay in hospital as well as it is connected to hospitals.


But the one thats going to bring you right out of this is PLUTO. Pluto transforms and can bring back from the dead. It is sextile your ascendant right now. It's supporting you. Also right now TRANSIT jupiter is in your 6th house it just entered there. Usually Jupiter brings on the diagnosis of any illness you were unaware of. It in turn fixes the problem and I believe you will be ok. Jupiter will be in there a long time to help you.

You will be fine I believe.


Hugs and kisses and get well soon xoxox


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posted April 09, 2010 07:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe your meant to meet someone important in hospital?? Pluto trine Venus

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Ami Ann
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posted April 09, 2010 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Belgz--a cute doctor.


I am so glad Belgz said that, Unmoved.
That is what I feel inside.

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mermaid26
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posted April 09, 2010 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is your good fight to fight, none better than for you! I'm always asking Saturn too why me and what did I do now and it must have been in a past life, too. Try to think of it as all for your ultimate good, to prove you can do it. I swear you earn invisible medals of honor. You have that nice Scorpio strong will fighter in you.
I have recently come to find out this happens to my dad every so often with the severe anemia and he's goes in for blood transfusions and gets revitalized. He's an Aquarian. (You have 4/Aqua birth channel) I take after him and am prone to anemia and have been afflicted many times, too.
I can't believe either how low your count.
Godspeed on your healing. Love & Peace & Strength to you!

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posted April 09, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Praying for you!

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Yin
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posted April 09, 2010 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved, you are not meant to die. Not yet.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.

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posted April 09, 2010 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
everything´+s will be allright.

it is in times of suffering that we can reach our Highest Potencial,and star to be intune with our Higher Self.

maybe that is happening for a reason...?

nevertheless the motive is not to die,but to reborn!

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la_sexorcisto
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posted April 09, 2010 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_sexorcisto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
everyone is meant to die. do you think you're a special exception?

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posted April 09, 2010 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved,

I do not think you are meant to die from this at this time. After all now you can get the treatment you need.
I have a pretty low HB level myself, even though not as low as yours (Mine is at 9 at the moment), and I am eating disgusting ironpill.

BTW do you have some Mars-Neptune-aspect or configuration? This is sometimes said to relate to low iron in your blood.
My Mars in 12, my Neptune in 1 conjunct ASC, and my Mars conjunct and parallel Neptune.

On a more psychological level, do you have problems asserting yourself?
Maybe you have to show an "iron-will", to stand your ground in some issue, and you haven`t?

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Got Gemini?
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posted April 09, 2010 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved!!! I'm praying for you!!!

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Gemini Sun 24˚
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Glaucus
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posted April 09, 2010 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Unmoved,

I am very sorry about what you're going through. I hope that everything will be ok with you.

I noticed something very unusual and significant in your chart, but I don't think it has anything to do with your health condition.

Haumea is the 3rd largest dwarf planet after Eris and Pluto. It is named after the Hawaiian fertility creation goddess.

It's a highly unusual object. It has very fast rotation that it looks like a football that's been kicked


Your Haumea is in 20'07 Virgo
conjunct Sun in 20'07 Virgo

Your Sun and Haumea are in an exact conjunction down to the minute.

when an object is less than half a degree orb conjunction to the Sun, it's called cazimi which means in the heart of the Sun. Your Haumea is definitely in the heart of the Sun.

I have never seen an exact conjunction to Haumea before like that.


It has to be a very strong theme in your chart

Philip Sedgwick wrote the following keywords

Positive: Soulful confidence, an unshakeable personal inner knowing, creative, regenerative. Able to reconstruct, redefine, transform, especially regarding consciousness, willfulness and restoring rock solid integrity. Supportive. Fostering. Fertile. Creative.

Negative : Insecure and attention demanding. Dramatic. Egocentric. A bully disposition. Forces head-on collisions. Claims martyrdom and sacrifice to secure attention. Willing to attach to someone else’s momentum or allowing dependent sorts to attach to one’s efforts for self benefit (using non-paid volunteers, fans, devotees).

Mundane: Self awareness programs. Portraits and or caricatures. “Spin” as in political or media framing of events. Affinity or family bonds with those similar in nature. The Hula. The big island of Hawaii. Storm warnings to sailors in form or rainbow. Lava cooling in the sea to make land. Creation, fertility, childbirth and sisterhood. Verbal affirmations. Body sacrifice. Entourages. Groupies.

Ceremonial: Hulas, regeneration ceremonies, affirmations. Soul-based capitulation ceremonies (surrendering ego to spirit). Ceremonies in which a mask is removed (unmasking of the great Hopi kachina Saquasohuh).

Lunar bodies contributing to keywords: Hi’iaka, Namaka.

Here is the Astronomy of Haumea: http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/2003EL61/

here is an astrological article on Haumea: http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/haumea_dwarf_planet_and_sacred_nature.html

Transiting Jupiter is opposing your Sun-Haumea cazimi less than 1 degree now.

D.D. asked about Mars configurations

You have Mars conjunct Neptune/Pluto midpoint with 32 minutes of arc. That could indicate possible problems with blood.


however

there are disagreements about what rules blood

Some astrologers say that Mars rules blood.
Noel Tyl says that Neptune rules blood.
Some other astrologers say that the Moon rules blood with its rulership over fluids in the body.

You have Moon contraparallel Neptune with 25 minutes of arc, similar to Moon oppose Neptune which could indicate problems with the blood from both Noel Tyl's view and the view of some astrologers that say that Moon rules blood.

You have Moon square Pluto with 1'45 orb which is within the 3 degree orb that I use for transneptunian dwarf planets. That can indicate potential problems with fluids in the body and could be an indicator for problems with blood with the view that Moon rules blood.


You've been having Solar Arc Neptune square Saturn...the orb is now 20 minutes of arc separating. That could indicate that health problems could be building up within the past 10 months.

Saturn-Neptune configurations are associated with chronic illnesses. Saturn/Neptune midpoint too.


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Unmoved
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posted April 09, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
La sexorcist- are you trying to be smart or funny? Or do you not understand the context of my question?

To everyone else, thank you for the great support, especially the astrological view regarding Neptune. I will get back to thread a little later.

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posted April 09, 2010 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I looked up stuff on blood loss

here is a list of 55 causes

This section shows a full list of all the diseases and conditions listed as a possible cause of Blood loss in our database from various sources.

* Adenomyosis
* Anemia
* Aspirin
* AVM
* Birth Injury - Blood loss
* Bladder cancer
* Cirrhosis of liver
* Colon Cancer
* Colon polyp
* Cystitis
* Disseminated intravascular coagulation
* Diverticulitis
* Dysfunctional uterine bleeding
* Endometriosis
* Fibroids
* Gastric ulcer
* Gastrointestinal bleeding - Blood loss
* Glomerulonephritis
* Gonorrhea and/or Chlamydia infection
* Hemophilia
* Henoch Schloein purpura
* Hydatidiform mole
* Inflammatory bowel disease
* Intra-abdominal hemorrhage
* Leukaemia
* Lymphoma
* Mallory Weiss syndrome
* Menorrhagia
* Nephrotic syndrome
* NSAIDs
* Oesophageal cancer
* Oesophageal varices
* PCOS
* Penetrating injuey
* Peptic ulcer
* Peptic ulcer bleed
* Perimenopause
* Peutz-Jeghers Syndrome - chronic blood loss
* PID
* Postpartum hemorrhage - blood loss
* Promyelomonocytic leukaemia
* Pyelonephritis
* Rectal cancer
* Renal calculi
* Rupture urethra
* Ruptured ectopic pregnancy
* Scurvy
* Shigellosis
* Splenic rupture
* Stomach cancer
* Trauma
* Ulcerative colitis
* Uterine cancer
* Uterine polyp
* Von Willebrand disease
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/symptoms/blood_loss/causes.htm

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posted April 09, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus- just saw your reply. Noted. And thank you. Will reply later.

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posted April 09, 2010 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you take a lot of aspirin?


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Diana
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posted April 09, 2010 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved,


I am so sorry! OMG! I will pray for you NOW.


Is HB hemoglobin?


I will look at your charts shortly...I just woke up and have an awful headache -- I also haven't been feeling great, but I am ok. I want to look at your charts -- all of them and it takes a long time and I want to do it right.


I think you will be ok.


Off the top of my head things that can make you lose blood:


Something with the colon/bowel (occult blood).

An ulcer

Both of those can be cured.


Are you taking herbal supplements, cleanses, vitamins? Those things can be dangerous and cause problems. If you are, tell your MD's what and when you did them. That can help with diagnosis.


I will be back.

ETA: Raymond beat me to it with an official list,

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LoL AT THE LONG LIST! Shes a virgo i bet she was already onto it with the doctors. I hate those websites.

Unmoved i found info on n.n transits! Remember your old thread, well i couldnt find it but now i got you here to tell u I think its on page 2 now.

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posted April 09, 2010 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I overlooked the semisquares and sesquiquadrates which are used in Cosmobiology.


You have Venus semisquare Saturn - '39 separating

Solar Arc Neptune is
sesquiadrate your Venus - '17 applying
square your Saturn - '21 separating


Transiting Eris is
sesquiquadrate your Venus - '04 applying
oppose your Saturn - '34 separating


it's too early to say what Eris could be about in Medical Astrology, but it's a transneptunian object like Pluto. I can't see why it can't be in synchronicity with health issues like transneptunian,Pluto is said to be. Maybe Eris actually symbolizes the disorder or chaos whenever it is in hard aspect like Eris in hard aspect to Mercury could be nervous disorder,chaos involving the nervous system.


I wonder if blood loss is connected to issues with either the kidneys or the reproductive system.

Both Moon and Venus are associated with female reproductive system. Venus is the planet associated with the kidneys.

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Diana
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posted April 09, 2010 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm....I tried to create the chart but I am getting totally different angles. I put the same time, but the UT time is off. I am assuming I need to adjust something in the advanced options, but I don't know what....Can someone tell me?


This has never happened to me before....

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posted April 09, 2010 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My blood HB levels are at 3, to less than 3. I just found out this morning from a panicked doctor telling me that they are booking me in asap to find out where and why I'm losing blood, while also replenishing the blood I've lost. Again, doctors are shocked that I'm still walking and talking because people die at level 7 at times.

Oh wow, that's a really low Hb count! I hope they find the solution soon! (((hugs)))

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posted April 09, 2010 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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everyone is meant to die. do you think you're a special exception?

Sexorcisio


If I were a person struggling with what Unmoved is---I would want to slap you.

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posted April 09, 2010 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm praying for you some more Unmoved!

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