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raspberri
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posted September 01, 2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for doing the Dwads DD! So yeah, you see how he doesn't have any dwads on my planets, but I do on him...

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raspberri
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posted September 01, 2010 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved, can you post them please?

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Unmoved
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posted September 01, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go...


HIM:

ME:

SYNASTRY

COMPOSITE

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jane
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posted September 01, 2010 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD -

quote:
I think this is where I might disagree.
(Is that a first-timer btw?)

Let's break out the bubbly!


quote:
Anyway, you say that THEY are feeling YOUR Dwad planets, as if they were their own?

Not as if my planets are their own. They're feeling their own planet being touched by my dwad planet. Like a transit. So their Sun is getting Plutonized and Venusized, etc. They're feeling Pluto and Venus deeply reach into their Sun.

Which I think means we actually agree. ?
*puts away the champagne*

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DD
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posted September 01, 2010 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, don`t put the champagne away so quickly.


Isn`t it the case always? Whenever something touches their tropical planets, they feel their tropical planets?
You think it`s deeper if it is your Dwads?
Why?

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jane
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posted September 01, 2010 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD -

I can't shut up if you ask me questions.

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Isn`t it the case always? Whenever something touches their tropical planets, they feel their tropical planets?

Yes.

That doesn't mean they feel it positively though! Venus can be repulsed just as much as she's attracted, for example.

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You think it`s deeper if it is your Dwads?
Why?

Excellent question!

First, the metaphysical mumbo jumbo.

It starts with me believing there are different levels of reality.

The radix level is where we live. We track the radix level with the zodiac. We exist on that zodiac level.

Within this level, there's a deeper layer. That's the zodiac within the zodiac. We track that level with dwads. Our personal selves don't live on this level. It's hyper condensed energy. Too spiritual for something substantial like the self.

Although that level isn't us, per se, it shapes us when it touches us. It sensitizes/spiritualizes the way we perceive.

If it touches our radix, then our personal self is able to deeply sense others' energy in that spot, as well as our own. If it touches someone else's radix but not our own, then we deeply sense that other person's energy and they feel their deepest level.

Second, the empirical mumbo jumbo.

In my own experience, when someone's touched my dwad planets (that I don't have on my own radix), I haven't felt like they saw ME. I felt like I saw them, and they got deeply in touch with themselves. If my dwad placement were me, wouldn't that feeling be reciprocated? Wouldn't I feel like they're knowing my dwad planet too? Since this is my strong pattern, I'm concluding that my dwad isn't me, but is instead a state of perception.

My dwad feels like me only when it contacts my radix. That's bc my radix provides foundation for that dwad level.

Crazy, eh?

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DD
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posted September 02, 2010 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so are you saying, that Dwads are the connection between Spirit and the earthy manifestation of the tropical?
How is the difference to the Helio chart then?


BTW I was thinking about clues for attraction, and these popped into my head:

emotional attraction
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Moon (+ Sun??)
IC
8th house (though it more emotionally passionate than 4th)

Amor and Psyche

romantic attraction
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Venus (+ Mars for sexual emphasis?)
DESC
5th house

Eros and Cupido


I was thinking of Eros, but feel I cannot separate him from his other "manations" Amor and Cupido. They are part of the same "unit".


I know it doesn`t have anything to do with Dwads. But I got stuck on the tought of finding out in the natal what we are attracted to and resonate wtih int he outer world (though attraction and repulsion could both be consequences - probably all we really can say is that we would not stay unimpressed)

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posted September 02, 2010 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW I think that Dwad level is us, too. It is dependent on our personal zodiac-placements. so it is a part of us, our reality, our Self, just maybe it is so condensed that we sometimes have difficulties gaining access to that level, as we are so focused on the physical aspects of life?

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Quinnie
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posted September 02, 2010 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Must read this over. I knew what decans were but not duads.... Thanks for this DD

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posted December 10, 2011 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone!

There is this software where you input the degrees and the planets/ASC/MC/etc, it will automatically calculate the duad points for you. You can download from the link in this website.

Link: http://aliceportman.com/calculating-duad-and-dwad-charts/

Speaking of unequited love, i guess I have many case studies but one really broke my heart to tatters because i am unwillingly to let him go...

My sun in leo, duad sun in libra
My moon in aqu, duad moon in scopio
My merc in cancer, duad merc in cap
My venus in gemini, duad venus in pisces
My mars in libra, duad mars in aquarius
My jupiter in virgo, duad jupiter in cap
My Saturn in virgo, duad saturn in Gemini
My uranus in sco, duad uranus in cancer
My nep in sag, duad nep in leo
My pluto in Libra, duad pluto in leo
My asc in libra, duad asc in scopio

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His sun in scopio, duad sun in virgo
His moon in pisces, duad moon in libra
His merc in scopio, duad mercury in cap
His venus in Libra, duad venus in Gemini
His mars in libra, duad mars in libra
His Jupiter in libra, duad jupiter in scopio
His saturn in libra, duad saturn in sag
His uranus in scopio, duad uranus in virgo
His nep in sag, duad nep in leo
His pluto in libra, duad pluto in leo
His asc in gemini, duad asc in aquarius

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In synastry :
My venus conjunct his duad venus (exact to the degree), trine his duad moon (exact to degree)
My Sun conjunct his duad pluto (exact to the degree)
My moon conjunct his duad ascendant
My Pluto conjunct his duad MC
My Mars conjunct his duad mars and duad moon
My saturn & Jupiter conjunct his duad Sun

His Sun conjunct my duad moon and duad ascendant
His moon conjunct my duad venus (to the degree)
His Venus conjunct my duad sun
His pluto conjunct my duad ascendant

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I tend to get over heartaches pretty fast but this one drags.. Maybe it has to be his duad planets on my natal planets which is affecting me more than it does him.

... trying to analysis and justified why.. :/ or maybe there is just no reason. He just choose not to love/care/dote me regardless of the attraction.

Love,
Jo

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psytaurus
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posted December 10, 2011 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for psytaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me
dSun conj Uranus =0*42'
DVenus conj NN= 0*51'
dSaturn conj Mars = 29'
dNeptune conj Nn =1*37'

him
dSun conj NMoon - 1*08
dSun conj Mars - 3*03'
dMars conj Asc 0*28
dNeptune conj Moon - 1*28'
dPluto opp Venus - 0*11'

Interesting that natal Moon seems to be pretty active in these type of situations.

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amelia28
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posted December 10, 2011 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my duad chart:

Me:

sun 6 LEO 00'
moon 15 SCO 24'
mercury 26 PIS 24'
venus 16 TAU 12'
mars 27 TAU 24'
jupiter 2 AQU 48'
saturn 1 SAG 48'
uranus 8 AQU 12'
neptune 18 LIB 00'
pluto 8 LIB 36'
NN 26 VIR 24'
rising 12 TAU 12'
MC 20 ARI 12'
vertex 16 AQU 12'

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Ceridwen
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posted March 20, 2012 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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astrolady83
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posted October 18, 2014 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolady83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok..wait a minute.. I am totally confused..
Are you guys talking about DUAD or DWAD?

they are completely different.. SO which one conjuncting someone's natal planets would be affective? Or is it either?

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