posted May 12, 2010 11:22 AM            

""Unrequited love occurs when one person passionately desires another and the other person is not interested in them. Sometimes the uninterested person has no idea that the other loves him or her. Sometimes they are only too aware and wish it wasn’t so. This very uncomfortable state of affairs is easily shown through the Duad system.

The most powerful connection to another is through the duads of the Sun, Moon, Nodes, Ascendant, MC, and Vertex. For sexual interest Venus and Mars play a part and for intense effect Pluto is usually somewhere in the picture.

As an illustration: A woman has her Sun in Aquarius in the Gemini duad and with her Mars (sexual attraction for a female) in Gemini in the Virgo duad. She meets a man with the Sun in Gemini and Mars in Virgo. This will give AN INSTANT ATTRACTION.

The man has his Sun in the Capricorn duad of Gemini and is not particularly interested in Aquarians. Furthermore, he has his Venus (sexual attraction for a male) in the Scorpio duad of Cancer and is interested in women with Venus or the Moon in Scorpio. Our example has Venus in Pisces and the Moon in Aries! She does not satisfy his needs or desires at all, but he greatly satisfies hers.

This is a classic example of unrequited love.

Their two Suns are in trine so they would generally get on well together, but he fulfils her duad needs and she doesn’t fulfil his, so she has much more feeling for him than he has for her.

The woman has Venus in Pisces and this trines the man’s Venus in Cancer. This is a lovely, harmonious contact and would give a pleasant flow between them, but his Venus in the duad of Scorpio insists that it is Venus or the Moon in Scorpio that will bring desire and passion into the relationship, so he will naturally find women with these placements in Scorpio far more attractive."

posted May 12, 2010 12:48 PM            

I knew a bit about decans but nothing of duads. This is pretty interesting. I have to go for now, but I'll be back to read more. Thanks again for the link.

posted May 12, 2010 01:31 PM            

http://aliceportman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Duad-Table1.pdf

OK, I'm no stranger to unrequited love...

My Gem Sun = duad of Pisces
My Gem Venus = duad of Cancer
My Aqua Mars = duad of Virgo
My Pisces moon = duad of Scorpio
My Gem merc = duad of Sag
My Virgo Asc = duad of Pisces
My Gem MC = duad of Scorpio
My Aqua NN = duad of Leo
My Aqua vertex = duad of Cancer
My Gem Eros = duad of Taurus
My Cancer Psyche = duad of Cap

I confess to often been instantly attracted to Pisces and Cancer men, and usually men with Pisces or Cancer Suns or Pisces Venus or Mars. Usually, Cancer Venus and Cancer Mars men are a turn off for me.

Occasionally, rarely I'm instantly attracted to someone with strong Virgo, usually a Virgo Sun but never to a Virgo Mars that I know of.

I can be friends with people with strong Scorpio, but I've never been instantly attracted to someone with strong Scorpio in their charts nor have I dated anyone like that. Only a couple times I've had instant attraction to a Scorp Sun, but both time it turned out he had more Sag in his chart and only his Sun in Scorp.

I have been instantly attracted to Leo Suns, Moons and ASCs. My current unrequited love is a Leo rising.

I am often instantly attracted to Aries Suns, which shows up no where on this list, and Cap Suns and moons, that only is the duad for my Psyche.

As for my current unrequited love:

My NN duad = his ASC
My Sun and ASC duads = his Venus
My Mars duad = his Pluto
My Psyche duad = his moon and vertex
My Eros duad = his Eros

OK, now for him:

His Sun duad = My Mars
His Venus duad = My Neptune
His Mars. NN and vertex duad = my Uranus
His ASC duad = My Sun, Merc and Venus
His Eros duad = my ASC and Pluto
His Psyche duad = my moon

Huh, we have two duad double whammys--both our Pyshce duads = the other's moon, and both our ASC duads = the other's Venus.

But no contact to his Venus duad other than my Neptune (which is strong in my chart by the way--a singleton and ruler of my 7th house and my moon). Is that enough to create unrequited love?

I don't know about this. I think unrequited love is a bit more complicated sometimes.

posted May 12, 2010 02:56 PM            

My Mars is in Aquarius Duad - I really never have felt physically attracted to Aquarian Mars, but maybe that is just because I rarely encounter them.

I am heavily drawn to men with Sun or Moon in Aries and Venus or Mars in Capricorn, the ASC is mostly mutable, I have an insane pull to Pisces ASC`s and even to Sagittarius Asc`s and sometimes to Virgo ASC`s, but that is not so often.

The Duad of my NN is in Aries (2 degree Aries to be exact - I wonder if transits affects Duads, too?), my Duad Venus is on 13 Pisces which makes INSANELY much sense to me!

posted May 12, 2010 03:12 PM            

Of course it means their natal Mars opposes my Duad Venus, but it also means that the Duad of their Mars is in Capricorn, which is the sign of my natal Venus.

Oh and yes you can calculate the degrees of the Duads.

Every 5 minute equal one degree in the Duad.

Example:

My Sun is on 25°55 Sagittarius.

From 25°00 - 27°30 is the Libra Duad of Sagittarius. So my Sun is actually 0°55 into the Libra Duad.

If I divide these 0°55 by 5, the result is 11. These are the degrees of my Duad. So my Duad Sun is on 11 degrees Libra. (conjunct my Radix Pluto btw).

posted August 27, 2010 07:08 PM            

But the Duad of my Gemini Venus is Scorpio...

posted August 27, 2010 07:39 PM            

my brother and his wife:

Sun Pisces (Capricorn) - Sun Aqua (Leo)
Moon Virgo (Aqua) - Moon Aries (Scorpio)
Mars Capricorn (Libra) - Mars Gemini (Sag)
Venus Pisces (Scorpio) - Venus Capricorn (Gem)
ASC Scorpio (Taurus) - ASC Libra (Taurus)

posted August 28, 2010 06:58 AM            

I don´t think it`s BS, cause other people have put a lot of work and thought into it and have a reason, probably based on THEIR analysis of several charts, to come to the conclusion.

Now, that does not mean we have to agree with that. If your experience tells us it doesn`t work, fine.
But first of all looking at one or even 5 charts clearly is not enough.
Secondly, looking at our own chart may be counterproductive, as we have a very fixed subjective view on ourselves and our relationships.
Thirdly, we (and also the author) may be onto something, but maybe looking from a slightly warped angle, which might produce wrong results in some cases.
Maybe there is something to it, but we just don`t understand HOW it works exactly.

I haven`t experienced it working the way the author proposed as I wrote.
But that is based on my very own experience of my chart and my attractions. So it is much too subjective to come to a final conclusion about the value of the theory.
IMO it doesn`t work with signrelationships alone, if anything it works like real synastry.
But that is just an opinion, a hunch of mine, that I would have to investigate further. But I wouldn´t dream of devaluating someone else`s intellectual work by calling it BS without even having taken my time to think about it deeply or investigate some more charts.

this gullible attitude that I am observing so often on LL is a real intellectual turn off for me.

Why is it so hard to admit that one`s opinions are just that, opinions based on subjective experience and perceptions, and not objective facts?

Of course every experience and subjective perception has great value. But this goes for EVERYONE, not just ourselves.

I know this is not an astrological post, but I am getting really fed up with people`s "verbal diarrhoia", not just here, but in Real life, too.

Rant over.

posted August 28, 2010 07:34 AM            

yes I was thinking of that synastry. Wasn`t it a crime, he murdering the girl cause she didn`t respond to his feelings?
But it was not me who posted the synastry. It was in some "mystery charts" thread. Can`t find it anymore.

The charts of Napoleon and Josephine might be enlightening, too, as he was much more in love with her than she with him.
Of course we would have to check the normal synastry first. But I think it was not THAT lovey-dovey.

Camille Claudel and Auguste Rodin might be a good example, too. She was in love with him, and he obviously exploited her for sexual gratification and her creativity.